1. The tread was not "bumped" twice in the past week.
1. The tread was not bumped twice in the past week.
(Matter a fact Poitier is the one I should be replying to right now if anyone)
- I replied to Easy-E by quoting my response to your questions. Why? Because our exchange was relevant to understanding the context of the OP.
- I replied to Poitier & The Hierophant by quoting my response to your questions. Why? Because our exchange was relevant to understanding the context of the OP.
2. I know what I'm endorsing because I defined it. Which is exactly what I stated in two key post.
Now define "sovereign state" and how that definition applies to the context outlined in the two post above.
Second outline these dynamics of white supremacy that need to be changed in order to bring about your defined "sovereign state" in relation to my given context.
This isn't TLR. You can't B.S. your way through a conversation with wild unspecified claims here.
(To be clear you could potentially have great points, but we'd never know cause you fail or don't know how to properly articulate them)
Im done with this retard conversation, you talk about wild unspecified claims but your requesting the government to allow private import and exporting of goods for one specific group of people ONLY......
Sovereign State : A state that possesses full sovereignty over its affairs, existence, and territory and is complete in itself.
This not a debatable back and forth, its one idiot pushing an extremely unrealistic idea that is not possible in any way shape or form in the aspect of life as we all know it. vs me who is telling you that That IS NOT THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS....
3. We need to abide by the sameguidelines as anyone else
Basic Importing and Exporting | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Importing - Licenses/Permits
5. Where exactly in my OP did I use the word "separate"? What definition of "separate" are you using anyway?
We need common terms here.
Working definitions (subject to cleaning up)
Segregated - to live under the legal jurisdiction of an alien cultural group who have designated where you live and how you are uniquely treated by law.
Separated - to live under the legal jurisdiction of a shared cultural group who have designated how you are equally treated by law.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/27082064/I only answered the "do what" portion of the question ....but not the "can we"
"can we" is the question I pose to the root
1. You already said that once before, I'm not even clear why you came back
2. We've already gone down this road bruh...
3. Now define "sovereign state"(DONE - good job!) and how that definition applies to the context outlined in the two post above(Incomplete).
4. Good cause I don't do "debates" as outlined already....
Note: As I've already stated I'm not "pushing" anything.
This isn't TLR. You can't B.S. your way through a conversation with wild unspecified claims here.
(To be clear you could potentially have great points, but we'd never know cause you fail or don't know how to properly articulate those points)
Good cause I don't do "debates" as outlined already.
Do you realize how much you double talk with your bullshyt? You're blatantly creating rebuttals in opposition to what others are stating, and your taking time to break down specific points while posting research or in this case previous post that support your statements.
That is known as debating short bus.
We good, stop quoting me and you can continue with your dumb and dumber conversation without my 2 cents
BTW, just in case you think I'm being facetious or dodging the question. I've never been into convincing / persuading people to do anything. I simply provide data & interpretations of that data. It's up to that individual person to convince / persuade themselves given the data & interpretations on display, in relation to their own lives....
Answer:
Pass... I don't do academic debate.Now discussions to ascertain & clarify each others position sure
Why:
At a point it becomes...
Person 1: You have to see that ...2+2 = 4
Person 2: No you're not understanding me ...6-2 = 4
While a position can be "rationally incorrect" there becomes a point at which noone is making an illogical position. Their making a point that suits their values, politics, and principles which the other party isn't obligated to hold.
So the point then becomes how do you handle/process difference ...and that component is utterly lacking in "academic debate". Given that those things(values, politics, and principles) are essentially the basis/manifestation of a persons perspective which is deemed "subjective" in platonic thought on which "academia" is based. It's just "mafukkas tryna win" at arguing.
Now if you want to sit down and have a discussion I suggest you look to your African heritage(assumption)...
...for method/practices to use as "cultural ingredients" in cooking up your own custom process.
Pass, I don't do "academic debate"the point here is to...
1. assert a political position(Provide clear view of the subjects full dynamics) in regard to the topic ....and stand on it.
2. make a clear example of what "stand on it" looks like so others can pick up from there when engaging in conversation concerning the topic.
I.E. I'm not interested in winning any debate
Now in regard to you being "proven wrong" ...that's not really my angle when speaking to people.
Fair enough, I'll drop off. My points have been largely addressed anyway.
Side note: I don't do debates they reek of people(I'm not saying you) constantly trying to "win". I just want to understand a persons position and make sure my position is clearly understood. Afterwards come to some (dis)agreement then move on to the next step.
I despise "academic debate" ...it's one of those residual European cultural nuggets that don't suit me at all
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Basically my position is to produce alternatives to whatever is being pushed(that's not inline with my world view) not to hunt down people I disagree with to prove them wrong. This thread being a great example. What do I look like telling someone in (insert African country here) that you are wrong, African Americans do come to Africa. They are just going to argue back well I never see any.
Instead of arguing down some specific persons experiences, I bypassed that dead end argument and instead argued generally against using a particular experience to say African Americans don't go to Africa ...only Europeans come here. How did I do that? By simply producing information showing African Americans in Africa.
Now does that make the person who never sees African Americans wrong ...a lair? NopeThing is that wasn't the point of contention anyway. The point of contention was a subset of Africans on nairaland attempting to build a "universal case" off of their individual experiences.
I'll bite...
I don't think it's a case of being cliquish...more so than a case of given the hundreds/thousands of people with information on African history on the Continent & Diaspora why should this one person receive our attention?
Now you do put forth a reasonable case for why his material should be reviewed
"atheist dilemma" - I.E. you can't tell a person to stop doing something they value without providing a viable alternative.
My role is to produce viable alternatives not to chase down every wack job who says "black people aren't from Africa they from (America, Europe, the moon)" etc.
That said I don't disparage people playing defense(hell I might even poke my head in). There is a place for that, but i'm on the offensive squad.
I.E. For the most part I don't go around trying to prove people wrong I just get clarity on peoples position and produce info.
The closest I could think of me "debating" someone would be....
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22350234/
and
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22596774/
...and even then it's basically just me stating and clarifying my position while trying to understand theirs.
...I'll just make a mental note to take your name out of the quote when referencing our prior conversation.
What about sourcing steel for buildings? It seems like insulation will have to break in order to trade for the many modern things we have become dependent on.
3 clarifications before I can answer you
...or maybe some combination of the above.
- Are you asking under the assumption that "insulated" implies utilization of some alternative currency instead of the U.S. Dollar?
- Are you talking in regards to currency crunch inherent to the current covid related economic waves?
- Are you talking in regards to currency crunch inherent to the (process / end result) of "insulating" African Americans?
sure, I’ll take them in order.
1. No. Keeping the dollar. If we keep theUS dollar but only circulate the currency within through the 85% to 100% scenario you described then...
(it is worth noting that a minted BlackManDollar™ would be problematic to other nations if they were not permitted to invest in or system or consume our production)
- the amount of physical dollars in circulation for our internal market will decrease every month through wear/tear/loss/ or citizens saving rather than spending
- The above shortage makes it difficult to trade internally, without a central BankOfBlackPeople™ to print more
- the above shortage also makes it difficult to acquire the means of production from others( industrial equip/computers/servers/ore), items we cannot make ourselves.
2. No. Covid is temporary. Black people (ideally) are eternal
3.Yes and No.
Yes, the actual cost of insulation would be astronomical because we would need to purchase ALL the means of production from others(factories, industrial equip, medical equip, ore, etc) using already existing currency.
No, because of the day to day loss I described in point 1
