No it wouldn't have. Pac and Big weren't elevated due to them dying. It was orher factors. First off, they had the music to support the claims. Second, them making songs and albums that alluded to the death they would die made it easy for people to create this mythology around them when they ultimately did die. They became prophets in the eyes of many. Pac, in particular became a figure that was bigger than rap because people saw him as a revolutionary.
feelosofer
#ninergang
I'll say this DMX is a great rapper. Had he not had problems with drugs he's be a top 15 of all time rapper, maybe even top 10 (that's a hard sell). To be honest as beloved as his 1st 3 albums are, none of them are classics (outside of being personal classics). Nas has earned the reputation of being a top rapper of all time. Even though I think he has only 2 classic albums, if you go song by song, Nas has it by a longshot.
Where is this from?
I know it but can't call it
feelosofer
#ninergang
Where is this from?
Seinfeld
krackdagawd
Inspire.
mega beat up nas?
I didn't know they fought.
DMX only had one good year now?
yep
along with snoop, if he lost that murder trial.
DMX reached heights that nas couldn't dream of, and he was there for a good 3-4 years. and before the Viacom takeover, the standard run was 3-5 years. the idea that DMX was just lightning-in-a-bottle is usually just post-2000s rap fan rhetoric. when the politics started to dictate everything.
DMX' run was standard length, and actually greater than standard considering everything that he crammed into that window. plus, X still wouldn't have fallen completely out the picture like he did if it wasn't for drugs & def jam.
"if I ruled the world" is just a big-budgeted, yet still watered-down version of AZ "sugar hill". the same AZ that nas basically patterned his career shift after, coupled with the hype machine that AZ didn't have.
aint nothing iconic about stillmatic breh. its not a classic. and it wasn't an album filled with hits neither.
those albums are 4 years apart breh.
they both saved def jam during their respective eras.
ehh. ruff ryders giving the duties to swizz was moreso a mix of nepotism & a low-cost business move.
but yea, swizz was a much bigger hit-maker than dame grease. on the flip, dame was the better choice for holding down a project. we saw it again a decade later with max b & hell rell.
as much as I hate how under-appreciated swizz beatz is on the internet, and in this thread. your disdain for dame grease is no better.
both producers are great. I bump IDAHIH & FOMFBOMB like a two-mood double-cd.
I stated it poorly.
I moreso meant his top 10 status.
I wasn't trying to say he was doggystyle/snoop dogg status.
Na bro I meant he exposed him on a real level and destroyed him on multiple tracks. Thun and kicko that is probably one of the best diss tracks ever. after that I seen the bytch in nas not just because mega lyrically bodied him but what he was saying was all facts. Nas is a shady character and the shyt he raps bout is him scribbling in his notepad Escpecially on it was written. still one of the goats but that shyt made me look at him differently. Then years go by you realize it wasn't just mega who said nas is a snake there was many others. Dudes a phony.
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No, because It Was Written is a great album, I Am... is a very good to great album, Nastradamus was admittedly a dud, Stillmatic is a very good to great album and Nas is still relevant and just as talented to this day.
DMX is in my personal top 5 (favorite not best ever), but he has nowhere near the consistency/longetivity of Nas, and Nas is still the better rapper when comparing both at their peak.
A prime X can hang with anyone in the history of the game, but it was just too short of a prime and too hard of a falloff (to truly belong in the GOAT conversation).
In terms of rapping how can people front on songs like these?
And these were from one of, if not his worse, album
DMX is possibly the most overrated rapper of all time. IDGAF what anyone says.
Nas went from street poet to mafia don. You could tell he was influenced by Biggie and others and started telling first person shooter type of stories. So he lost some of his direction and started following what other people were doing. You Owe Me Nas isn't the same guy as One Love Nas. And a lot of his fans wanted him to stay that guy.
And you can tell, because he was everywhere between when Stillmatic and God's Son dropped. He made a comeback.
It's not a myth. It was a general belief at the time. And the difference between Nas and DMX/Jay is that they were consistently themselves. Volume 3 Jay is still the same guy, even if Volume 3 wasn't as good as Volume 2, 1, or RD.Nas falling off is 1 of the biggest mtyhs & loads of crap in hip hop history
It started when stupid hip hop purist & media didnt like the direction he went in on IWW with more opulence, mafiaso & kingpin ducktales mixed in with intelligence & he went into it even more on i am
Then you owe me came out & they minds was made up that he had officially fell off even tho he still was selling records & in the pop charts
Nastradamus may be a misstep but how many missteps does dmx have what about jay
Nas went from street poet to mafia don. You could tell he was influenced by Biggie and others and started telling first person shooter type of stories. So he lost some of his direction and started following what other people were doing. You Owe Me Nas isn't the same guy as One Love Nas. And a lot of his fans wanted him to stay that guy.
Nah. Stop it. That was a general belief before Takeover. Nas wasn't in the mainstream consciousness by 2001, outside of Oochie Wally, which was a minor song dropped early in the year. It took the Jay beef and Stillmatic to bring him back by the end of the year. He had been cold for a while by then.I like both i am and it was written. That whole shyt was started by jay z.
And you can tell, because he was everywhere between when Stillmatic and God's Son dropped. He made a comeback.
JayBaldacci
All Star
DMX became a crackhead unfortunately
Nas dropped greatness every decade
Life is good
LIG was good for the times, not greatness though.
Palm Tree's & Blunts
Big timah timah
DMX is possibly the most overrated rapper of all time. IDGAF what anyone says.
It's not a myth. It was a general belief at the time. And the difference between Nas and DMX/Jay is that they were consistently themselves. Volume 3 Jay is still the same guy, even if Volume 3 wasn't as good as Volume 2, 1, or RD.
Nas went from street poet to mafia don. You could tell he was influenced by Biggie and others and started telling first person shooter type of stories. So he lost some of his direction and started following what other people were doing. You Owe Me Nas isn't the same guy as One Love Nas. And a lot of his fans wanted him to stay that guy.
Nah. Stop it. That was a general belief before Takeover. Nas wasn't in the mainstream consciousness by 2001, outside of Oochie Wally, which was a minor song dropped early in the year. It took the Jay beef and Stillmatic to bring him back by the end of the year. He had been cold for a while by then.
And you can tell, because he was everywhere between when Stillmatic and God's Son dropped. He made a comeback.
I was to young to expierence it anyways but it just seems like people run with this whole because jay said it it must be true type shyt.
spliz
SplizThaDon
He's proven in this thread time and time again he doesn't even have the knowledge to make an assessment about the 90s or Nas. He over here talkin to nikkas who forgot more hip hop than he's ever knew.
Mostly true