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I've noticed a lot of the non-AAs on this board, especially Islanders, have a weird and heavily misinformed view of AA history/culture. Its an interesting phenomena because AAs on this board do not reciprocate this odd interest.

A lot of stuff attributed to Louisiana and creoles don't even originate their but in other parts of the Deep South like Alabama/Mississippi, of course Lowcountry culture on the SE coast, and Haitian influence is minimal as most enslaved Africans from Louisiana came directly from Deep South ports.

Even the "white passing" phenotype wrongly associated with creoles is seen throughout the South with Boule/Jack+Jill types, melungeons, griffes, and lumbee peoples.
 

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Those trail rides seem interesting. I need to do research on the boucheries.

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Everyone gets together and they slaughter a pig. Then everyone is assigned a task. Some make sausage, others make cracklins, etc. I think it's something that was started before refrigerators were a thing so they would split up the meat to keep it from spoiling.
 

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Everyone gets together and they slaughter a pig. Then everyone is assigned a task. Some make sausage, others make cracklins, etc. I think it's something that was started before refrigerators were a thing so they would split up the meat to keep it from spoiling.
Love this shyt. Don's cracklin off of I-10 on the way to New Iberia/New Orleans. :lawd:
 

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Creole in the islands and Creole in Louisiana does not mean the same thing.

These light brights in NOLA take that shyt serious. It's s way to separate themselves from black, even though they'll never admit it.

The younger generations are a lil different, you just got to live here to know what im talking about

Cajuns "real cajuns" trace their lineage to French speaking Canada. They were expelled and end up settling in South Louisiana. Cajuns werent respected by Anglo whites for a long time. An ol Cajun dude who grew up a long time ago told me "A c00nass and a black used to be looked at the same"

c00nass is a derogatory term, that they flipped, and now use it to refer to themselves.

In regards to Louisiana culture you have to look at new orleans as a island.
They don't listen to Zydeco in New Orleans
They don't second line in other parts of the state.

Cajun culture is basically all of south Louisiana, and a small part of central LA. Anything North of that might as well be Arkansas.

I will say this, our women are hands down the baddest I've seen with the exception of Cali. That's what really matters
 

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Creole in the islands and Creole in Louisiana does not mean the same thing.

These light brights in NOLA take that shyt serious. It's s way to separate themselves from black, even though they'll never admit it.

The younger generations are a lil different, you just got to live here to know what im talking about

Cajuns "real cajuns" trace their lineage to French speaking Canada. They were expelled and end up settling in South Louisiana. Cajuns werent respected by Anglo whites for a long time. An ol Cajun dude who grew up a long time ago told me "A c00nass and a black used to be looked at the same"

c00nass is a derogatory term, that they flipped, and now use it to refer to themselves.

In regards to Louisiana culture you have to look at new orleans as a island.
They don't listen to Zydeco in New Orleans
They don't second line in other parts of the state.

Cajun culture is basically all of south Louisiana, and a small part of central LA. Anything North of that might as well be Arkansas.

I will say this, our women are hands down the baddest I've seen with the exception of Cali. That's what really matters
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Creole in the islands and Creole in Louisiana does not mean the same thing.

These light brights in NOLA take that shyt serious. It's s way to separate themselves from black, even though they'll never admit it.

The younger generations are a lil different, you just got to live here to know what im talking about

Cajuns "real cajuns" trace their lineage to French speaking Canada. They were expelled and end up settling in South Louisiana. Cajuns werent respected by Anglo whites for a long time. An ol Cajun dude who grew up a long time ago told me "A c00nass and a black used to be looked at the same"

c00nass is a derogatory term, that they flipped, and now use it to refer to themselves.

In regards to Louisiana culture you have to look at new orleans as a island.
They don't listen to Zydeco in New Orleans
They don't second line in other parts of the state.

Cajun culture is basically all of south Louisiana, and a small part of central LA. Anything North of that might as well be Arkansas.

I will say this, our women are hands down the baddest I've seen with the exception of Cali. That's what really matters
I've been through almost every sub region of Louisiana and you speak the truth. I was in Shreveport this past April and it felt like North Texas a bit. The Casino Riverboat culture is the main thing that separated it from Texas. We went through Monroe and past grambling state also on our way to Dallas. The few times I've been to NO as a kid, it felt different too. Baton Rouge felt like a mix of both NO and Northern Louisiana. The "Bienvenue a Louisiana" state sign makes it feel like you're stepping into a whole new world all together the moment you crossover into Louisiana. Louisiana is such an interesting state. Folks speaking French and playing the accordian in the swamps. Folks in nola dancing with the casket of a loved one on their backs(they also do 2nd line funerals in Haiti and Africa. Those are NO's roots) little insular social clubs and fan clubs and creole communities. It's all very interesting and strange.
 

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I finally figured this out like 2 weeks ago :dead:
I know a few and while they have evolved their certain of the language that would make it seem different, at it's core it's the same.

Like the dude in the video speaking is the core and is perfectly understandable to me. If you speak Haitian creole and you keep those minor nuances I listed in mind as he speaks there is nothing he says that you wouldn't understand.

The biggest obstacle to me originalky was the way they use the word "ka" which we also used but it would throw me off . Once I figured theirs is past tense perspective whereas ours is conditional tense it was a breeze for me
 

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I've noticed a lot of the non-AAs on this board, especially Islanders, have a weird and heavily misinformed view of AA history/culture. Its an interesting phenomena because AAs on this board do not reciprocate this odd interest.

A lot of stuff attributed to Louisiana and creoles don't even originate their but in other parts of the Deep South like Alabama/Mississippi, of course Lowcountry culture on the SE coast, and Haitian influence is minimal as most enslaved Africans from Louisiana came directly from Deep South ports.

Even the "white passing" phenotype wrongly associated with creoles is seen throughout the South with Boule/Jack+Jill types, melungeons, griffes, and lumbee peoples.
This is a good point. Especially considering the Spanish and French history and race-mixing not being exclusive to Louisiana. You can find other "Mardi Gras" and street festivals similar to it, in all the states you named. Gulf Goast culture as an unbrella is vast. I think many AA's themselves aren't informed on alot of this, view Louisiana as exotic themselves. Especially AA's from the upper South and Piedmont regions. In NC we hear about the lumbees all the time, but most folks up here would feel "different" in Louisiana.
 

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I hear ya, but nah breh.

I don't know if the cultures not expressed or it's suppressed, but I've been all up and down the coast, and I don't get the feeling of home.

Honestly I felt more at home in St.lucia . It was eerily similar to the small town I grew up in.

The food
The patois my grandmother spoke
The colors
The mannerisms of the people

I need to get back there soon.
 

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I saw this vid on youtube on Haitian Creole a month or two ago, how accurate would y'all say it was?
 
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I've noticed a lot of the non-AAs on this board, especially Islanders, have a weird and heavily misinformed view of AA history/culture. Its an interesting phenomena because AAs on this board do not reciprocate this odd interest.

A lot of stuff attributed to Louisiana and creoles don't even originate their but in other parts of the Deep South like Alabama/Mississippi, of course Lowcountry culture on the SE coast, and Haitian influence is minimal as most enslaved Africans from Louisiana came directly from Deep South ports.

Even the "white passing" phenotype wrongly associated with creoles is seen throughout the South with Boule/Jack+Jill types, melungeons, griffes, and lumbee peoples.
Funny thing is I’ve had these same kind of conversations on other boards, YEARS ago lol.

A lot don’t understand how connected all the gulf coast states are, nor how the South differs regionally yet still has commonalities that reach everywhere. I notice when people do this they’re really just talking about New Orleans, but group Louisiana as a whole like it developed in a bubble juxtaposed to its neighboring states when that’s not quite the case. Not to mention sometimes people oddly downplay the influence of the hundreds of thousands of AA’s from the “old South” being force migrated into the region after the Louisiana purchase thus playing a major part in its cultural development. So something like Hoodoo gets attributed to Louisiana, when it really came out of the old Southeastern states.

There’s much more I could say but I don’t feel like typing that much lol.
 
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