Cacs are saying Nikola Jokic > Carmelo Anthony

[seemorecizzy]

This is bad posting all over, and the dudes who dapped you are exposing their low basketball IQ and knowledge of history...

Jokic is in Year 5. Melo finished his fifth year in '08, so apples to apples we're comparing 2003-2008 Melo, to 2015-2020 Jokic, and we're not using stats as the major yardstick because of era and positional responsibilities, but era doesn't hinder comparing how guys perform respective to their era...

•you said Carmelo was losing to All-Time great teams in the postseason. The only thing that qualifies in his first five years is losing to the dynastic Spurs in '05 and '07. I'm not holding losing to the MVP and #1 seed Wolves as a rookie against him, but that isn't some All-Time team...

In '06 he got 4-1'd by the Elton Brand Clippers who never accomplished anything significant, and was probably only the fifth best player in that series. In '08 he and Iverson, two of The Coliseum's biggest man crushes, got swept by the Lakers, which was obviously a really good team, but there was only a 7-game gap in the W column between these teams. You mean to tell me AI and Melo weren't good enough to make the series competitive, much less win a game? Yall nikkas swear these dudes were bears but there is evidence on deck to the contrary...

And its another series where Melo isn't the best player on his team...

Conversely, Jokic didn't qualify for the postseason his first three years, he gotta eat that in a H2H vs Melo. These two times he has qualified though, he has won 3 series, which is 3x more than Melo won, and has 15 wins, which is nearly 4x more the playoff games Melo got you...

All things fair, I would say Melo faced tougher teams than '19 Spurs, '19 Blazers, '20 Jazz so far. His performances vs those teams though isnt acceptable...

you didnt address anything i said
your just rambling
ai camby martin were all pass their prime with melo, ai and camby were drafted in 1996

melo has never played with a allstar in his prime
spurs had 3 allstars, lakers had 2 allstars, and your tellin me melo.had kenyon martin and jr smith so it was fair lol

timerwolves had the mvp when he lost to them and he shouldnt of been in da playoffs to begin with lol
no player at the time had ever come to a team that won less than 20 games and had them make a 20 plus game improvment and make da playoffs.

even against the clippers he was the underdog, he was da favourite one time.

prime melo would go absolutely ape shyt in todays league

he was unstoppable when teams were.still playing defense
but ya he never had da help

 

[Boonapalist]

It really goes far beyond any box score #s. Jokic is the only player in the last 20 years who's comparable to Bron when it comes to running an offense.

Nash isn’t included in that category.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Nash isn’t included in that category.

You got me there.

I should've included Nash. That was an oversight.

 

[ISO]

you didnt address anything i said
your just rambling
ai camby martin were all pass their prime with melo, ai and camby were drafted in 1996

melo has never played with a allstar in his prime
spurs had 3 allstars, lakers had 2 allstars, and your tellin me melo.had kenyon martin and jr smith so it was fair lol

timerwolves had the mvp when he lost to them and he shouldnt of been in da playoffs to begin with lol
no player at the time had ever come to a team that won less than 20 games and had them make a 20 plus game improvment and make da playoffs.

even against the clippers he was the underdog, he was da favourite one time.

prime melo would go absolutely ape shyt in todays league

he was unstoppable when teams were.still playing defense
but ya he never had da help

The narrative that Melo had bad teams is garbage man. That was only the case in New York after the ECSF appearance.

Billups and Iverson were both All-Star guards.

Camby’s “prime” was in Denver that’s where he was DPoY, All-Defense, blocks leader and all that.

 

[InstantKlassik]

nikkas found a new way to hate Melo


Mad as fukk he back in the league, getting buckets fukk y’all

 

[JMurder]

Melo should've done more with the talent he had

 

[seemorecizzy]

The narrative that Melo had bad teams is garbage man. That was only the case in New York after the ECSF appearance.

Billups and Iverson were both All-Star guards.

Camby’s “prime” was in Denver that’s where he was DPoY, All-Defense, blocks leader and all that.

tell me a year and a team that he had with denver when he should of went to the finals or won a chip

melo didnt know how to build superteams like his co workers did. end of story.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

Jokic has been a better Nugget than Melo.

Stats & playoff appearances say otherwise.

Did you read what I quoted? It had nothing to do with Melo, dumbass.

Since you wanna act stupid, or are idk you are a Melo stan, I'll break this down for you

You said you're done arguing with these dudes because Gil said Joker is the best at running an offense since Bron (You offered no rebuttals to this but I'm sure your casual ass gonna say CP3 or Rondo). What were you arguing about? Melo's rank as an all time Nugget vs Jokic. You nikkas act like Trump where you can manipulate the truth and not be checked on it. Jokic has 15 all time playoff wins as a Nugget and Melo has 16. Your mans is a Nugget playoff loser, feel free to die mad about it

 

[Remote]

Carmelo needs to be viewed in the proper perspective.

Melo's value as a basketball player is largely as a scorer, but little else.
But if his shot wasn't falling, there was no other way for him to make an impact, and therefore no other way to help the team to win. That limits how far you can carry a team.

Someone like Jokic can have a bad shooting night but still get his teammates involved, dominate on the defensive end and run the offense.

But it's hard for a lot of fans to look at a goofy, tall white guy who doesn't have flashy dunks or a pretty fadeaway or a sexy crossover and say he's better than XYZ player who does have all those things.

So if your definition of better revolves around how aesthetically pleasing a player's game or skill set looks, you're going to miss all of the other things that correlate to winning...and thus makes you a more valuable asset....and in turn truly makes you great.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

I'll never understand TheColi's obsession with protecting Melo. You'd be hard pressed to find another modern day superstar who has folded in as many elimination games as he has. I think I've seen one elimination game performance from Melo and I think it was vs the Spurs. Other than that he approaches do or die situations with the heart of the Tinman

 

[LV Koopa]

Melo is in his 17th season and instead of appreciating him and letting him rock, here y'all go furthering nerdy CAC talking points. These dudes hated his game and can't let the great veteran live.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

You have a Kodak Black avatar breh.

You obviously know nothing about quality black art.

You have never actually heard Kodak's music

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Melo is in his 17th season and instead of appreciating him and letting him rock, here y'all go furthering nerdy CAC talking points. These dudes hated his game and can't let the great veteran live.

Threads like this show exactly how many white people are in this forum.

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

Melo is in his 17th season and instead of appreciating him and letting him rock, here y'all go furthering nerdy CAC talking points. These dudes hated his game and can't let the great veteran live.

Be mad sports discussions are happening on a sports board. Keep that same energy for Lebron then since he's in the same year and doing it at a much higher level than Melo ever has at any point in his career

Threads like this show exactly how many white people are in this forum.

Oh good since you're here @Gil Scott-Heroin has been looking for you. Something about MPJ being the best player on the Nuggets roster right now

 

[UserNameless]

nikkas found a new way to hate Melo


Mad as fukk he back in the league, getting buckets fukk y’all

Threads like this show exactly how many white people are in this forum.

Shyt is pathetic at this point .