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[Gloxina]

@Gloxina , can I ask what you think? Do you think one side needs to change more or it's even? Idk how to phrase my question.

I don't understand it. Honestly, I didn't know who he was until he passed.

I was raised in a traditional family. I want to keep that. Both sides of my family are kind of conservative with stuff like this. I was told early that if I wanted an easy life and to attract a good man, I'm going to have to adjust myself. If something isn't working, adjust. College, take care of myself mentally and physically. A good man will take care of a woman and both should take care of each other. I was taught do what it takes to get there but do not sleep around. I'm getting what I want for the most part, but some of these guys will play with you.

I'm nice but I had to be a a couple times. Idk, I don't like that. So, I will just leave. I'm putting in the work, I expect my man to as well. I like dominant, but respectful, ambitious men. I'm not dealing with anything I don't like. If you do it, I'm over it. Some of these guys really think they are entitled to me. With little work ... Yeah, right. Name calling, etc. They sound like some of what I read about the not so nice part of this.

I've spoken to a few other girls about this and I'm over that too. I've been called a pick me (how? I'm literally getting to what I want and some other stuff), male identified, told I don't understand, and all this other stuff. Idc anymore. Going to continue doing me. When they see me out here happy, they have a sudden shift in their attitude too.

Sorry this is so long- I’ve been sitting here with my family for the evening and never closed the window. My uncle is making me sample some Hennessy White, so I’ve been sitting here typing lol

My fam is pretty traditional and I’m actually sitting here with them now for Sunday dinner (well, dinner is over and folks have splintered into different rooms to watch various NFL games)…

But I’ll definitely share my thoughts… main thing I will say is that you are ahead of the game because you come from a nice background.
Pay very close attention to the guys who are interested in you and their backgrounds. You have the opportunity to connect with young guys who come from similar families who were already taught what you were taught about relationship dynamics, family, etc.


1. Carry yourself like a lady at all times. That will open many doors and attract a lot of guys. Then you will be able to choose between suitors. This is when you separate the gentleman who come from a background like yours from the other guys who won’t understand traditional roles or try to convince you not to expect a traditional guy.

2. Be very observant of how a man treats not only you, but other people. Waitstaff at restaurants, strangers, family & friends. If he is selfish, cold, backstabbing, etc he WILL eventually turn those behaviors on you too. Some girls think it’s cute when someone is tough/mean to everyone else, but nice to them. Not the case.

Is he the kind of guy who leads? Does he help other people study? Take charge at work? Goal oriented? Does he accomplish those goals? Does he keep his commitments with you?

3. “Male Identified”— So, there is such a thing. If you are literally putting the thoughts, perspectives, needs of men AHEAD of yours/women’s at all times, to the detriment of your own sex: yes, you are male identified. These are the women who encourage men to play the field and run through women, as if those women don’t have feelings. These are the women who think other women “deserve it” when they are abused, r*ped, etc. These are the women who usually are not very attractive (lol) so they have no idea what it’s like to actually be desired by many men and understand the challenge of navigating that experience. They usually hate on the attractive girls.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with understanding the perspective of the opposite sex. If you are heterosexual (and SMART), you should want to understand and relate to the opposite sex. This is where having some game comes in. You can attract men all day everyday, but you can’t expect to keep a man (especially a quality dude) around if you can’t relate to him.

A smart woman understands that she needs to know how to relate to men, just like a smart man understands that he can’t be a complete hard-ass or weirdo in the presence of women and expect women with options to stick around for maltreatment.

Some of the women screaming “male identified” didn’t grow up in healthy environments so they don’t understand that men and women need to relate to each other, enjoy being around each other, and do things for each other.

The young girls in my family learn to cook/bake from scratch, have no issue making their father/grandfather’s favorite meal or dessert, etc. My generation is grown, so we have no issue taking ppl to doctor visits, visiting and helping to pack/store things, hosting family dinner, etc.
Some men hear that and get excited and think that’s where it stops.

No. See, we do these things because our family is an actual patriarchy.

-If you need help with rent or mortgage payments? Then men got it covered.
-Repairs in your house? The men will contact a contractor they know, or will schedule someone knew and be present for the Appt.
-Furniture delivery? Cable guy coming through? Coordinate with the men because as a lady, you aren’t supposed to be alone with a strange man.
-Family emergency? Someone is catching a flight next day to be there to figure it out.
-Your dad passed away? No prob- one of the uncles will move you into/out of your dorm every year until you graduate.

So when you encounter a young guy in college who reminds you of what I wrote above? Fukk yea that’s the kind of guy you go all out for. Everyone doesn’t deserve your love and nurturing. It’s special and shouldn’t be shared with many men.

While you’re young and cute you, this is the time to present yourself well, and truly observe who is approaching you.

4. Guard your reputation! So no sleeping around with a bunch of dudes. Don’t give anyone any ammunition. It’s better to be seen as a bit mysterious than too friendly and welcoming and open to everyone who shows interest. Think Lori Harvey without all the media attention. People knew she was pretty and came from a wealthy family, but that’s it. Lol Most people didn’t know what her voice sounded like. If she were just a random pretty girl in her city with a low profile, she would have every dude clamoring for her because no one would know her dating life. That’s how you want to move. Everyone doesn’t need to have access to you, your personal life, etc.

 

[Gloxina]

This will only get worse because children in America don't have well defined paths to adulthood. Boys and girls both need rites of passage and until such a system exists, we will continue to have children growing into adult bodies but still very much childlike.

Great point!

 

[Phitz]

Sorry this is so long- I’ve been sitting here with my family for the evening and never closed the window. My uncle is making me sample some Hennessy White, so I’ve been sitting here typing lol

My fam is pretty traditional and I’m actually sitting here with them now for Sunday dinner (well, dinner is over and folks have splintered into different rooms to watch various NFL games)…

But I’ll definitely share my thoughts… main thing I will say is that you are ahead of the game because you come from a nice background.
Pay very close attention to the guys who are interested in you and their backgrounds. You have the opportunity to connect with young guys who come from similar families who were already taught what you were taught about relationship dynamics, family, etc.


1. Carry yourself like a lady at all times. That will open many doors and attract a lot of guys. Then you will be able to choose between suitors. This is when you separate the gentleman who come from a background like yours from the other guys who won’t understand traditional roles or try to convince you not to expect a traditional guy.

2. Be very observant of how a man treats not only you, but other people. Waitstaff at restaurants, strangers, family & friends. If he is selfish, cold, backstabbing, etc he WILL eventually turn those behaviors on you too. Some girls think it’s cute when someone is tough/mean to everyone else, but nice to them. Not the case.

Is he the kind of guy who leads? Does he help other people study? Take charge at work? Goal oriented? Does he accomplish those goals? Does he keep his commitments with you?

3. “Male Identified”— So, there is such a thing. If you are literally putting the thoughts, perspectives, needs of men AHEAD of yours/women’s at all times, to the detriment of your own sex: yes, you are male identified. These are the women who encourage men to play the field and run through women, as if those women don’t have feelings. These are the women who think other women “deserve it” when they are abused, r*ped, etc. These are the women who usually are not very attractive (lol) so they have no idea what it’s like to actually be desired by many men and understand the challenge of navigating that experience. They usually hate on the attractive girls.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with understanding the perspective of the opposite sex. If you are heterosexual (and SMART), you should want to understand and relate to the opposite sex. This is where having some game comes in. You can attract men all day everyday, but you can’t expect to keep a man (especially a quality dude) around if you can’t relate to him.

A smart woman understands that she needs to know how to relate to men, just like a smart man understands that he can’t be a complete hard-ass or weirdo in the presence of women and expect women with options to stick around for maltreatment.

Some of the women screaming “male identified” didn’t grow up in healthy environments so they don’t understand that men and women need to relate to each other, enjoy being around each other, and do things for each other.

The young girls in my family learn to cook/bake from scratch, have no issue making their father/grandfather’s favorite meal or dessert, etc. My generation is grown, so we have no issue taking ppl to doctor visits, visiting and helping to pack/store things, hosting family dinner, etc.
Some men hear that and get excited and think that’s where it stops.

No. See, we do these things because our family is an actual patriarchy.

-If you need help with rent or mortgage payments? Then men got it covered.
-Repairs in your house? The men will contact a contractor they know, or will schedule someone knew and be present for the Appt.
-Furniture delivery? Cable guy coming through? Coordinate with the men because as a lady, you aren’t supposed to be alone with a strange man.
-Family emergency? Someone is catching a flight next day to be there to figure it out.
-Your dad passed away? No prob- one of the uncles will move you into/out of your dorm every year until you graduate.

So when you encounter a young guy in college who reminds you of what I wrote above? Fukk yea that’s the kind of guy you go all out for. Everyone doesn’t deserve your love and nurturing. It’s special and shouldn’t be shared with many men.

While you’re young and cute you, this is the time to present yourself well, and truly observe who is approaching you.

4. Guard your reputation! So no sleeping around with a bunch of dudes. Don’t give anyone any ammunition. It’s better to be seen as a bit mysterious than too friendly and welcoming and open to everyone who shows interest. Think Lori Harvey without all the media attention. People knew she was pretty and came from a wealthy family, but that’s it. Lol Most people didn’t know what her voice sounded like. If she were just a random pretty girl in her city with a low profile, she would have every dude clamoring for her because no one would know her dating life. That’s how you want to move. Everyone doesn’t need to have access to you, your personal life, etc.

Nobody with a half decent moral compass would get with a marry a woman like that, who mother is/was comfortable in the drug dealing under world. She has several more guys to run through before she becomes a Nia Long who never wants to be married. What kind if harmful advice is this?

I guess if she wants to be for the streets or be a deviant.

 

[Marlow Stanfield]

Nobody with a half decent moral compass would get with a marry a woman like that, who mother is/was comfortable in the drug dealing under world. She has several more guys to run through before she becomes a Nia Long who never wants to be married. What kind if harmful advice is this?

I guess if she wants to be for the streets or be a deviant.

I guess you didn't think two steps past "go", huh?

Its not bad advice at all. She's not saying BE Lori Harvey. What she is saying is keep her private life as private as possible and don't wear every piece of your heart on your sleeve. Like Lori Harvey did in the beginning.

 

[Umoja]

"That was 2013. I now run a company that mostly employs BM and I am engaged. I don’t have children out of wedlock and I have no criminal record.

I, like many BW, have elevated myself.

Meanwhile, you have spent that time engrossing yourself in manosphere content that causes you to not only stay mentally stagnant but also encourages others to do so as well.

You can try to point out my flaws but that doesn't change that the state of BM isn't improving and the Black Manosphere is doing more harm than good.

At the end of the day, I am in no danger of being poor. lonely nor childless. I don’t have to get online to complain about my life. Perhaps instead of spending time searching up 10 year old posts and watching other men cry about how they can't get what they want you should focus on improving the state of your community of fellow BM.

What ya'll fail to realize is that regardless of what BW do, BM can improve themselves. Constantly comparing yourself to BW just displays your inability to compete with other men."-BlackPearl




Shes finally evolved into the Empress. This is the thread that had yall tight? She sounds like a righteous black man to me. And coming from a righteous black man, I too have been called out for hate on black men. Which is why I dont typically cosign a woman telling men the truth about themselves .Because it will almost never be well recieved or taken as constructive.


Especially not when your telling it to black men who still lack knowledge of self,not to mention the emotional intelligence.


What she is posting is what I fully expect the rest of you to sound like within the next few years. And your going to have to get yourselves prepared. This will be the type of energy you will need to expect from our women. They will be waking up in the upcoming years also. And due to them having so much masculine energy right now. They are going to sound like righteous black MEN. Before they take the next step in their evolution to sound like righteous black women. In the next few years BlackPearl will be encouraging you with kindness and empathy. But for now shes coming in like Stone Cold Steve Austin giving yall that work/truth you need.



With the bolded she basically told yall to "be too busy building". And to "remain indifferent and righteously unnaffected" to what black women are saying about us. And what did yall do,but get mad?

Oh look, a rapist.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Nobody with a half decent moral compass would get with a marry a woman like that, who mother is/was comfortable in the drug dealing under world. She has several more guys to run through before she becomes a Nia Long who never wants to be married. What kind if harmful advice is this?

I guess if she wants to be for the streets or be a deviant.

Yeah they just gloss over that shyt with Lori

Men put too much value on women's looks, and women just run with it too

Women look up to Lori Harvey because she moving like Jeter

 

[NO-BadAzz]

@Gloxina , can I ask what you think? Do you think one side needs to change more or it's even? Idk how to phrase my question.

I don't understand it. Honestly, I didn't know who he was until he passed.

I was raised in a traditional family. I want to keep that. Both sides of my family are kind of conservative with stuff like this. I was told early that if I wanted an easy life and to attract a good man, I'm going to have to adjust myself. If something isn't working, adjust. College, take care of myself mentally and physically. A good man will take care of a woman and both should take care of each other. I was taught do what it takes to get there but do not sleep around. I'm getting what I want for the most part, but some of these guys will play with you.

I'm nice but I had to be a a couple times. Idk, I don't like that. So, I will just leave. I'm putting in the work, I expect my man to as well. I like dominant, but respectful, ambitious men. I'm not dealing with anything I don't like. If you do it, I'm over it. Some of these guys really think they are entitled to me. With little work ... Yeah, right. Name calling, etc. They sound like some of what I read about the not so nice part of this.

I've spoken to a few other girls about this and I'm over that too. I've been called a pick me (how? I'm literally getting to what I want and some other stuff), male identified, told I don't understand, and all this other stuff. Idc anymore. Going to continue doing me. When they see me out here happy, they have a sudden shift in their attitude too.

I'll say this to you because you seem to want to know how to move, know what the guys you want want.


One of the top reasons women are single is because they don't know what the guys that they want Want.


It's not that hard for a woman to find a man, it becomes hard when a woman can't keep the man that they finally find, mainly because they don't know what that man wants.

If you scared that guys will play you, then this here isn't for you. Get some therapy, ask your dad or brothers, read some of what some of the Brehs say on here to know how to pick and keep the man that you want.

Many of the times, women can't keep the man that they want is because they think it's all about them when it's not.

 

[BarackStar]

Lie and slander Kevin all you want he immortalized they just making him a martyr. Shame insult guilt need to be right don’t make you right

 

[Still Benefited]

Oh look, a rapist.

Oh look,I wont be looking at you anymore. Too ignore you go,nothing was lost


How much can I pay for a feature that doesnt allow ignored people to see my post. They refuse to put me on ignore,and they truly arent deserving of the content

 

[Gloxina]

Nobody with a half decent moral compass would get with a marry a woman like that, who mother is/was comfortable in the drug dealing under world. She has several more guys to run through before she becomes a Nia Long who never wants to be married. What kind if harmful advice is this?

I guess if she wants to be for the streets or be a deviant.

Sorry- when I say think Lori, I do not mean linking up with various men. The point I made was that literally none of us knew of her until her high profile relationships. People saw that she was a pretty girl with a rich dad and stay at home mom and…that’s it. No one knew who she dated, what she sounded like, who she knew, etc.

The point is not to try to be some girl “on the scene” or Ms. Popular with everyone knowing you, having access to you, etc.

Hell, ok, scrap that and think of Beyonce. About her business, 1 high profile relationship (JayZ), although anyone with common sense knows JayZ wasn’t the first or only person she dated. THAT is the point. Be very careful and discrete. No one knows Bey’s personal life, but everyone knows she had a life.

 

[Still Benefited]

You know it's an aspect of this that may actually be them responding to the girls their same age. What is so horrible and scary about the advice on the manosphere? No one has seemed to be able to point out to me what this bad radical content is.

How much more can black boys/men be taught to not trust,how to mistreat and degrade our women? We already grew up within a pimp culture with hiphop. This manosphere stuff is some new shyt for the whiteboys really. For black men its basically rhetoric thats preaching to the choir.


The bad part is that because the incel content comes from the European,its likely to be even more weird and extreme.


But because black men are already been taught to be somewhat on this type of time regarding women. I feel we are more succeptable to eventually falling into whatever transition these cacs decide to take the "manosphere". Especislly when it comes from a radicalized black man whos in the sphere. Because the ideology wont sound as jarring,because most of it is hiphop 101



And full discolure,I listen to Natureboy whos probably considred more "toxically masculine" than all of the people listed combined. But at least there is a valuable message,and knowledge of self within what he teaches. As well as a message to empower black women,and bring them back into their feminity. Manosphere seems one sided,and from what Ive seen,Imnot seeing any valuable teaching. Or men being taught how to deal with the modern woman thats in front of us. How do we make them better now that we know they are hellhounds? Why pay the hellhounds so much attention?

 

[Gloxina]

How much more can black boys/men be taught to not trust,how to mistreat and degrade our women? We already grew up within a pimp culture with hiphop. This manosphere stuff is some new shyt for the whiteboys really. For black men its basically rhetoric thats preaching to the choir.


The bad part is that because the incel content comes from the European,its likely to be even more weird and extreme.


But because black men are already been taught to be somewhat on this type of time regarding women. I feel we are more succeptable to eventually falling into whatever transition these cacs decide to take the "manosphere". Especislly when it comes from a radicalized black man whos in the sphere. Because the ideology wont sound as jarring,because most of it is hiphop 101



And full discolure,I listen to Natureboy whos probably considred more "toxically masculine" than all of the people listed combined. But at least there is a valuable message,and knowledge of self within what he teaches. As well as a message to empower black women,and bring them back into their feminity. Manosphere seems one sided,and from what Ive seen,Imnot seeing any valuable teaching. Or men being taught how to deal with the modern woman thats in front of us. How do we make them better now that we know they are hellhounds? Why pay the hellhounds so much attention?

“We already grew up within a pimp culture with hiphop. This manosphere stuff is some new shyt for the whiteboys really. For black men its basically rhetoric thats preaching to the choir.”

Man, thank you for stating this because they won’t hear it from a woman!


This shyt is in the music little Black boys listen to. Black girls have been dealing with young men with a “pimp” mentality from the start of our dating lives

The only way you avoid this shyt is if you are actually middle/upper middle class raised around guys who come from families who don’t allow hiphop “culture” to heavily influence them.
You don’t have a population filled with 20something YO Black men searching for wives, not finding any in our community and then marrying a bunch of women of other races. Most Black girls are dating black men who aren’t thinking about marriage until much later, which still benefits y’all because we are on a clock and you aren’t.


Just Google “marriage culture”. In tact cultures push daughters AND sons to get married young. But they also create support systems for those young people to help them along. That is not our current culture in the US/west.

Teen girls are dealing with teen boys listening to rappers telling them the goal is to have a “collection”

 

[Gobie1kenobie]

The simple thing to do is to stop listening to all these single people with a platform who can't keep a relationship themselves, and go out and meet people and form your own opinion. If they don't line up with your values, go to the next

 

[BarackStar]

“We already grew up within a pimp culture with hiphop. This manosphere stuff is some new shyt for the whiteboys really. For black men its basically rhetoric thats preaching to the choir.”

Man, thank you for stating this because they won’t hear it from a woman!


This shyt is in the music little Black boys listen to. Black girls have been dealing with young men with a “pimp” mentality from the start of our dating lives

The only way you avoid this shyt is if you are actually middle/upper middle class raised around guys who come from families who don’t allow hiphop “culture” to heavily influence them.
You don’t have a population filled with 20something YO Black men searching for wives, not finding any in our community and then marrying a bunch of women of other races. Most Black girls are dating black men who aren’t thinking about marriage until much later, which still benefits y’all because we are on a clock and you aren’t.


Just Google “marriage culture”. In tact cultures push daughters AND sons to get married young. But they also create support systems for those young people to help them along. That is not our current culture in the US/west.

Teen girls are dealing with teen boys listening to rappers telling them the goal is to have a “collection”

Now talk about y’all culture of proud whoring, combativeness and having babies by 20% of the men then blaming the 80% or you not talking about nothing

 

[Xyrax]

Lol, this site is full of them too.

Yep. That shyt came for the whiteboys first with their pathetic shyt, but it was repackaged and found a way to start radicalizing young black men too. You definitely see it here on Coli. shyts wild.