Bullshyt: The Official 2016 Chicago Bulls Offseason Thread

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Trading Derrick Rose or Jimmy Butler should be Bulls' offseason priority

The Bulls can talk about finding value in any draft. They can have a strong plan to spend their roughly $23 million of salary-cap space in free agency. Management can support coach Fred Hoiberg and express belief in his potential for growth in his second season.

But, really, one of two things has to happen for this offseason to be successful: The Bulls have to trade Jimmy Butler or Derrick Rose or figure out a way to unlock the potential of their powerful partnership.

Trading one won't be easy, either to execute or to reconcile internally. It would run counter to the conservative nature of this management team. But it's the better route.

For myriad reasons, a smooth partnership between the two has become untenable. It's less somebody's fault than a situation where each player believes he's the No. 1 option, a classic case of will and skill colliding.

It's less about who's the better player and more about who's the better fit.

Neither possesses knockdown 3-point shooting ability to play well off one another. Both prefer to have the ball. Butler has added a screen-and-roll element to his game that nobody envisioned when he first came into the league.

This has little to do with whether Rose and Butler like each other or get along. Simply put, they didn't consistently play well together last season, getting outscored by 3.5 points per 100 possessions. If left unaddressed, their uneasy alliance will continue to have a negative effect on the locker room.

 

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Honestly, both probably need to go and we would start over with a clear vision and competent management.

Pau is gone. Noah needs to be gone. Rose is probably gone after next year.

Jimmy is one of the best in the league, but how long would it take to put a very good team around him? He'll be 27 when the season starts.
 

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So far, its been really dry media wise. Just rehashing the same old story lines. No real analysis on who we can draft to make an impact short term or long term. Nothing about free agency yet. No we just wanna beat the dead horse of trading our back court :francis:

All this talk, but i don't think i've seen any ideas presented on a rose trade that would actually make sense for both teams.
 

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I like their squad they have no mismatches everyone can play either play one or two positions. They could really give the cavs problems without giving up mismatches
A good Milwaukee team doesn't help the Bulls tho
 

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Derrick Rose/ Kahil Felder
Jimmy Butler/ Denzel Valentine
Kent Bazemore/ Doug McDermott
Taj Gibson/ Nikola Mirotic, Bobby Portis
Joakim Noah/ Cristiano Felicio

Drafted Denzel Valentine with the 14th pick
Traded Mike Dunleavy and Tony Snell to move up in the 2nd round to draft Kahil Felder
signed Kent Bazemore with the majority of the cap space
Re-signed Joakim Noah

If Noah doesn't take a little discount, I'd go for Bismack Biyombo

I also like Seth Curry off the bench. I think Denzel Valentine off the bench surrounded by snipers will be great for our bench.


This is my best case scenerio without being privy of anything inside the FO.
 

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Derrick Rose/ Kahil Felder
Jimmy Butler/ Denzel Valentine
Kent Bazemore/ Doug McDermott
Taj Gibson/ Nikola Mirotic, Bobby Portis
Joakim Noah/ Cristiano Felicio

Drafted Denzel Valentine with the 14th pick
Traded Mike Dunleavy and Tony Snell to move up in the 2nd round to draft Kahil Felder
signed Kent Bazemore with the majority of the cap space
Re-signed Joakim Noah

If Noah doesn't take a little discount, I'd go for Bismack Biyombo

I also like Seth Curry off the bench. I think Denzel Valentine off the bench surrounded by snipers will be great for our bench.


This is my best case scenerio without being privy of anything inside the FO.
I would like that kind of off season. I too would rather grab bismack and let noah walk. Love noah and hate it had to be him but we need youth up front to deal with the cavs.

I would also see if we can use our exception or do some kind of small sign and trade to get ish smith as our back up pg.

And gotta remember we got holiday for another year and I think he will be productive.
 

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Derrick Rose/ Kahil Felder
Jimmy Butler/ Denzel Valentine
Kent Bazemore/ Doug McDermott
Taj Gibson/ Nikola Mirotic, Bobby Portis
Joakim Noah/ Cristiano Felicio

Drafted Denzel Valentine with the 14th pick
Traded Mike Dunleavy and Tony Snell to move up in the 2nd round to draft Kahil Felder
signed Kent Bazemore with the majority of the cap space
Re-signed Joakim Noah

If Noah doesn't take a little discount, I'd go for Bismack Biyombo

I also like Seth Curry off the bench. I think Denzel Valentine off the bench surrounded by snipers will be great for our bench.


This is my best case scenerio without being privy of anything inside the FO.
:patrice:

Where is this team finishing barring injuries in the East in your opinion?

I like Bazemore too
 

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Where is this team finishing barring injuries in the East in your opinion?

I like Bazemore too

barring injuries, that team can beat the Cavs....

...am I just being a homer?....Do i still have visions of Thibs defensive scheme?...probably... Do I have more faith in Rose than most? It definitely seems that way...
 
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