"Building around LeBron was miserable" -David Griffin (article)

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That's one of em, the other one plays in the same building with a better squad.

Oh theres also a superstar point guard in California who has the same amount of rings as Lebron:shaq:

Lebron only has 3 rings in this decade, the rest are spread around amongst his contemporaries.

Stop acting like Lebron has separated himself from his competition like that, he has not won THAT MUCH. I personally think there are 3 players right now whose legacies could match or surpass Lebron depending on how these next 3 years go.

I think that 2016 title might've been the worst thing to happen to Lebron. Dude lost his hunger after that. He puts wayyyyyy too much weight on that lucky chip

You dudes are seriously mental...

The highest order of winning is winning a championship, correct? So since LeBron came into the NBA in 2003, nobody has won more than three championships---->and he's the only player since his entrance in '03 who won 3 chips as a #1 option...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody has more rings than him...

The second yardstick for winning would be getting to the championship round, winning your conference, right? He's done that 9 times since '03. The core of the Warriors (Steph/Klay/Dray/Iggy), and Dwyane Wade ('06, 2011-2014), have won their conference five times. LeBron has won his conference almost twice as much as the next closest guys have won theirs...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody else since he entered the NBA has been to more NBA Finals...

What would the next order of winning be? Probably getting to an ECF or WCF, right? LeBron has been to the conference Finals 10 times in 16 years. Since Bron entered in '03, Kevin Durant (2011-2012, 2014, 2016, 2017-2019) and Tony Parker (2005, 2007-2008, 2012-2014, 2017) have been to 7 conference championships. Chauncey Billups (2004-2009) and Wade (2005-2006, 2011-2014) went to six conference finals...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody has made their conference championship more than he has in the last 16 years...

And I guess lastly, the final measure of how you win would be how often you make the playoffs. He's missed it 3 times in 16 years, and '19 is the first time in 14 years he missed it. I can name a number of GOAT players who missed the playoffs in their prime---->KD, Mike, Kobe, unless we're gonna say injuries are an excuse for them, but not for LeBron. Lmao...

So despite not a single player having won as much as LeBron in the last 16 years, we are saying he isn't a winner and "hasn't won like that"? I didn't even mention the fact that it took possibly the greatest team of all time, a legit super team, to keep him from winning 4 and 5 rings in one decade...but wait, I guess that's irrelevant, because even though we know the Dubs as previously constructed were just 1-1 vs Bron, he still should have beaten the Super W's despite the fact that very few, if any, GOAT players in history could have won versus the Super W's, given the same roster Bron had...

Nor did I mention that not a single player has more MVPs or other high level accolades than Bron since '03, so nobody has performed at a higher level the last 16 years...

"But Bron hasn't won like that". Stop debating basketball, like yesterday...

When this gets up'd after lake show wins the title this year:umad:

There's gonna be a bunch of scrambling and backtracking and apologizing and pacifying and juelzing and a bunch of other dumb shyt to try to diminish the next ring. These nikkas need a life...
 

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You dudes are seriously mental...

The highest order of winning is winning a championship, correct? So since LeBron came into the NBA in 2003, nobody has won more than three championships---->and he's the only player since his entrance in '03 who won 3 chips as a #1 option...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody has more rings than him...

The second yardstick for winning would be getting to the championship round, winning your conference, right? He's done that 9 times since '03. The core of the Warriors (Steph/Klay/Dray/Iggy), and Dwyane Wade ('06, 2011-2014), have won their conference five times. LeBron has won his conference almost twice as much as the next closest guys have won theirs...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody else since he entered the NBA has been to more NBA Finals...

What would the next order of winning be? Probably getting to an ECF or WCF, right? LeBron has been to the conference Finals 10 times in 16 years. Since Bron entered in '03, Kevin Durant (2011-2012, 2014, 2016, 2017-2019) and Tony Parker (2005, 2007-2008, 2012-2014, 2017) have been to 7 conference championships. Chauncey Billups (2004-2009) and Wade (2005-2006, 2011-2014) went to six conference finals...

"But LeBron hasn't won like that" even though nobody has made their conference championship more than he has in the last 16 years...

And I guess lastly, the final measure of how you win would be how often you make the playoffs. He's missed it 3 times in 16 years, and '19 is the first time in 14 years he missed it. I can name a number of GOAT players who missed the playoffs in their prime---->KD, Mike, Kobe, unless we're gonna say injuries are an excuse for them, but not for LeBron. Lmao...

So despite not a single player having won as much as LeBron in the last 16 years, we are saying he isn't a winner and "hasn't won like that"? I didn't even mention the fact that it took possibly the greatest team of all time, a legit super team, to keep him from winning 4 and 5 rings in one decade...but wait, I guess that's irrelevant, because even though we know the Dubs as previously constructed were just 1-1 vs Bron, he still should have beaten the Super W's despite the fact that very few, if any, GOAT players in history could have won versus the Super W's, given the same roster Bron had...

Nor did I mention that not a single player has more MVPs or other high level accolades than Bron since '03, so nobody has performed at a higher level the last 16 years...

"But Bron hasn't won like that". Stop debating basketball, like yesterday...



There's gonna be a bunch of scrambling and backtracking and apologizing and pacifying and juelzing and a bunch of other dumb shyt to try to diminish the next ring. These nikkas need a life...
These guys are delusional and will become increasingly bitter and unhinged after Bron finally retires in like 5-6 years with every all time record and his legend continues to grow, as it always does for the goats.
 
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It’s not guess, he did make the call. Espn reporter that they asked griff to take back what he said.

Woj was releasing statements by griff right away and now a tv show lol

:snoop: How pathetic can LeBron get? Calling dude to take back his comments. This is beyond pathetic.

The story is already out there. Does LeBron really think David Griffin contradicting himself is gonna help? SMH.
 

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That's one of em, the other one plays in the same building with a better squad.

Oh theres also a superstar point guard in California who has the same amount of rings as Lebron:shaq:

Lebron only has 3 rings in this decade, the rest are spread around amongst his contemporaries.

Stop acting like Lebron has separated himself from his competition like that, he has not won THAT MUCH. I personally think there are 3 players right now whose legacies could match or surpass Lebron depending on how these next 3 years go.

I think that 2016 title might've been the worst thing to happen to Lebron. Dude lost his hunger after that. He puts wayyyyyy too much weight on that lucky chip


I remember Kobe saying he wasnt okay with Duncan tying him in rings


At the bolded u might be right, lebron already came out and said he was the GOAT after the 2016 title :francis:
 

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Where did he ask for pity?

He spoke his truth on the situation. Like two years ago when they had George Hill and Rodney Hood etc... When the trade was first made the media was commending the moves. When it didn’t work out it turned to “Bron doesn’t have any help”. When they had got IT, wade, Rose etc.. the moves were commended. When it didn’t work out it turned to “Lebron doesn’t have any help”

That’s the media’s M.O. When Bron wins he’s better than Jordan and the GOAT. When he loses they look for other people to blame.

I'm convinced y'all live in a fantasy world.
Bron gets criticism for literally everything he does. He gets a love and hate from the media.

The media loves to build people up and bring them down. Y'all know this but when it comes to Bron y'all wanna hear what you wanna hear.
 

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I'm convinced y'all live in a fantasy world.
Bron gets criticism for literally everything he does. He gets a love and hate from the media.

The media loves to build people up and bring them down. Y'all know this but when it comes to Bron y'all wanna hear what you wanna hear.

Stop making it about us breh. KD and Griff have said it so do they live in a fantasy world too?
 

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It’s crazy that Griffin finally said what everybody here says but now everybody crying about being co-signed :mjlol:
Griff said what all mediocre white me. say when forced to share equal power with one they feel is beneath them. They’re miserable and “terrorized” by it. Dude faced “terror “ in building the only ship on his ordinary resume. This isnt Jerry West here. Think about it....as a matter of fact...keep doing what youve been doing because thinking may not be something youre built to do.
 

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Griff said what all mediocre white me. say when forced to share equal power with one they feel is beneath them. They’re miserable and “terrorized” by it. Dude faced “terror “ in building the only ship on his ordinary resume. This isnt Jerry West here. Think about it....as a matter of fact...keep doing what youve been doing because thinking may not be something youre built to do.
Nah don’t come out with that mediocre white man shyt he just didn’t get to build the team the way he wanted to no more no less
 

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Nah don’t come out with that mediocre white man shyt he just didn’t get to build the team the way he wanted to no more no less
But why cant i come out with that? He clearly has an issue with confronting a player with equal equity. How does one reach the pinnacle of his career in winning a ship and still feel terrorized? I’ll tell you...its likely an ordinary white male who felt threatened by a player having that equality. And here you appear backing where the opinion is tooted in. Stop carrying the water for these dudes. You look like a tool
 

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:laff:

The Coli = where criticizing Lebron James equates to being a Trump supporter and KKK member.

I knew what this thread would turn into as soon as I read the article.
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How easy to dumb things down in the complete absense of context and nuance.

You stay being stupid. Nothing about you says youre even equipped to talk about how mediocre white men are always threatened by ones reach for equality, even when their resumes are ordinary outside of working with the one person who gave them their most success.

Just dumb “in a nutshell” posting Ive come to expect from you.
 
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Nah don’t come out with that mediocre white man shyt he just didn’t get to build the team the way he wanted to no more no less

Which is something a MEDIOCRE WHITE MAN would say after being gifted a championship by one of the greatest players to ever play the game.

Pouting and whining because he didn’t get to do it HIS way and had to acquiesce in some ways to the BLACK player who was the lynchpin for making it possible is white people shyt 101
 
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