Bruno Mars hammered for Cultural appropriation

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So, he supposed to be some crusader for black music and artists in the boardrooms?

No. But he's not immune from criticism for gladly going along with an industry model that commits theft from the genesis of the hollow appropriations he sells to white people. There's no denying that he's talented, but his talent is being exploited to market music that isn't genuine.
 

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bruno marks is mad talented and doing his thing

if she wanna be mad at anyone, be mad at the record label for pushing this type of music, and the consumer for buying this music

bruno aint do nothing :dead:

bruh probably grew up listening to soul and motown records, aint his fault he digs that kinda music and influenced by it

damn, let a dude cook
 

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You mean take my logic somewhere else because it negates my emotionally-fuel point.

BKA “I hate that this dude is winning with something I cared less about until he started using it.”
You'e "logic" doesn't apply to this and I dont even know why you'e quoting me in the first place wit that gay shyt.
Youre not winning anything,Nobody's
"fired up" and they not using finesse "more correctly "so unless you'e gonna explain to me how they are kick rocks.
 

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But Bruno always admits where he got his whole style from so this kind of stupid. Hes never denied that his style is from Morris Day, Bobby Brown, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. He even went in a magazine and gave all the props to black music.

Black people don't want to be honest with themselves. They let the R&B genre go to shyt and Bruno(an outsider) built his style around the greatest sounds of R&B and now they're salty. Shouldn't of been letting Usher get away with making strip club songs and Chris Brown sing about unloyal hoes. That 80's R&B sound would still be not in use if Bruno wasn't using it so whats the point of being mad about it?
R&B genre was producing hits. The issue was cacs took over the industry, pushed it into a different direction and Black love isn't on the table
 

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No. But he's not immune from criticism for gladly going along with an industry model that commits theft from the genesis of the hollow appropriations he sells to white people. There's no denying that he's talented, but his talent is being exploited to market music that isn't genuine.
So, you believe the labels conspired that he was the chosen one to make a new jack swing album under this current climate of music? Anglos are really going to gravitate towards that. He was criticized heavily by anglo-saxons initially. I saw the comments. He persevered and was unapologetic about his love and admiration for the music he grew up on. So, I don’t see your point.

You’re just mad that a “real” AA brother didn’t win making similar music. Would have a case if any of the mainstream artist would have tried. But instead they cater to strip clubs and dope heads now. Once Usher made “I Don’t Mind” it was the beginning of the end.
 

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This is where she is off base on Bruno,for the simple fact that irrc Bruno Mars got his start with Motown Records,the Motown records. There is tradition there and I would expect someone who was signed to that label,be of the pedigree to where they may make this type of music. Context is very important,its important to acknowledge how someone came into the game and if they did so respectfully and paid homage. Far as I can tell Bruno actually has,plus I saw an interview where he said he listens to Suga Free,so I think he is legit. If his music lacks authenticity it is probably just genetic in that he lacks the soul to pull off funk how it should be done:wow:

The only crime here is that black artist left black genres in droves to make white music:martin:

Young black artist should be outfunking Bruno to the point that point Bruno can't make his version of funk anymore. Black people may not move the needle on non black artist,but we still move the needle on black artist,that gets non blacks checking for them. The problem is most of these black artist music isn't any more authentic, than their watered down white counterparts.

Black people went from doing our own thing not caring what others thought to putting on shows for others for emotional gain on some “oh they like me all is well” stuff while other groups profit.

This is how people like Lil Xan and all them can even be tolerated and straight disrespect culture. Nobody takes black culture serious because people try to regulate to fantasy and entertainment.

When people rapped about reality and struggle others felt it was like watching a fictional tv show that they can turn off at anytime when black people actually have to live this stuff.
 

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He's doing what sells. If he could make money singing like Pat Boone or George Strait, that's what he'd do. I'd rather it be him than Justin Timberfake or someone like that. Probably helps that he's racially ambiguous where no one can put him in a neat box. I don't think he's the greatest singer ever, but he's energetic and seems to put on a good show. Staying power comes from being able to make it work live-in concert. This is why rappers always become businessmen or disappear. Their shyt doesn't really hold up well over time and most lack stage presence.

We can't create awesome culture every 5 minutes and NOT EXPECT people to borrow.

Even then that seems like an unfair assessment. There are plenty of artists in hip hop that say they only do the ignorant shyt because it sells, but who was checking in the new Jack wave in the 00s? If there was a thriving scene like all other vultures make their nests to get acceptance, or if Bruno was successful in the neo soul lane, I'd more than agree. But he's rocking with shyt that has since been disregarded. I don't think people are so upset that he's coopting a black lane, it's the success that he's getting. But he's the only one doing it. It would be like some Malaysian band bringing back funk. It would suck to see others profit in it, but black artists aren't checking with funk now as it is
 
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In the same vein... I’m sure all you nikkas love House of Ballons and a lot of The Weeknd’s Music who was inspired from and took, literally entire hooks from 80s pop.
 

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white people like black music better when you put a non-black face on it :yeshrug:

the same politics are a part of why eminem was so big. if he was black he'd just be tech n9ne. an underground horrorcore rapper with great lyrical ability.

same politics as to why adele is so big. if she was black adele would be jasmine sullivan status.

we know what's up.

that's what happens when you're in a majority white / majority non-black country. :yeshrug:

the only problem i have is we as black people don't passionately support our exceptional musicians to the point they just become a fringe niche artist. no reason daniel ceasar shouldn't be bigger but since he's not making vulgar strip club anthems or makes music that "bangs in the whip" we brush artist like that to the side most of the time. we helped make black panther one of the highest grossing movies ever but we can't make H.E.R. bigger?

trap is cool but you got a lot of black people who ONLY listen to that shyt and the only time they venture out of that is for the weeknd or bryson tiller and that's a problem.
 

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Aint read thread

But that song wit cardi b sounds like some str8 up bobby brown dont be cruel era shyt ....and i cant front, that shyt irks me when i hear it....i listened to bobby too much to digest that wit a smile, pause

Nah it sounds like a weird al parody. It lacks actual soul that comes from organically making a sound vs trying to go for a sound.

Back in the day black people made music just from jamming while outsiders were making music on some “you need a new jack swing hit” “you need a r&b song”.

Groups like the Doobie Brothers had non blacks who actually had jam sessions (of course they had black members in the group) and just made good music so non blacks making soulful music isnt always some evil plot. I dont doubt Bruno is student of music but much of his stuff sounds like parody vs homage.
 

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"We want Black culture from non-Black bodies" ironically said on a show that features primarily non African-Americans who discuss topics and espouse viewpoints that are a) in line with the modern college campus intersectionality paradigm and b) don't discuss topics that are relevant to African-Americans specifically poor African-Americans and instead preferring to focus on issues that are trivial like " Is Bruno Mars a cultural appropriator". :gucci:
 

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Tuxedo actually flips 80s music the right way



We've seen some good things inspired by the genre.

I liked the IVRY album


Kendrick did some nice things with TPAB as well ,and hopefully garnered some more interest to where black artist are inspired to dive in and evolve the genre.
 

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R&B genre was producing hits. The issue was cacs took over the industry, pushed it into a different direction and Black love isn't on the table

"Cacs took over the industry." You sound stupid.

When did old Jewish men not run the industry? Please tell me when. You guys just say shyt to say shyt. fukk ups at the artist level are just that.
 
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