Brian Flores files lawsuit against NFL

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The dynamics on the NFL for boycotting are extremely different. Bottom players dont make enough to make that sacrifice. Top players (QB) get paid so much that they dont want to sacrifice it. Most players dont last long, its a three-four year pay check.

LeBron, CP3, Curry and the likes can be vocal as they want to be becuase there is no replacing them or their talent.
Top players dont dictate the league. Its black players making 400k a year for the three or 4 years of value they have on their careers who make up a majority of the league.

A. Thats not a lot of money
B. Most NFL careers average 3 years

asking players to sacrifice their small athletic peak is a tall order
 

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So, then why bother with advocacy against the white capitalist class in the NFL if at the end of the day "color" doesn't matter?

Just give up a few head coaches and offensive coordinators and we're good with 100 percent white ownership, nearly 100 percent season ticket holder subscribers, 100 white-owned sponsors, etc.
I didn't say any of this.

Players are expendable because fans do not care about the players outside of quarterbacks. The best black, non-QB players in the NFL could join this all-black league, and fans would still watch the NFL because the NFL markets teams over individuals. Fans will not care, including many black fans. That's why I said Mahomes would have to join this league. That safe, "we the black NFL players support BLM" video that Mahomes did in 2020 is the only reason the NFL is on this fake social justice kick and said they were wrong not to have Kaepernick in the league. Were it not for Mahomes joining that video, and the NFL would have ignored it. Instead, they commodified it.

The more significant issues NFL players have, IMO, are financial. Players are breaking their bodies and brains to play because non-guaranteed contracts make players expendable. Why would black capitalists treat them differently? What incentive do they have to do what's right?

IMO, that is the way to get more black coaches because players would demand more.

If they want to form their own league, it should be a co-op, imo.
 
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For black athletes. The league would be isolated, marginalized, and put to the waste side.

this aint Jim Crow when there was an actual Black infrastructure in place to support a Black league. My parents generation gave that up in the name of “integration.”

madison avenue would not line up sponsors to support an all black league.

you dont create a Haiti within the beast. It wont succeed. This is a battle that has to be won within the league if the players have the collective gumption

You actually hit the nail on the head of why these Rooney Rule/Kaep/Brian Flores efforts never go anywhere.

The 70 percent Black male labor force in the NFL effectively has no power to wield. In fact they do have less power than the Negro League teams pre-Jackie Robinson.

They work in service of privately-owned NFL franchises, the majority of which are White-owned and controlled.

Unless they are willing to leave that system for one in which they do own and control in numbers commensurate to their dominance as labor, nothing will ever change.
 

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Nah Jason Garrett. POS was given the keys to the richest franchise on earth for a decade after one year as a QB coach and two years as an OC.

Don't forget that when he finally got kicked out of Dallas he walked into another OC job with the Giants and it took a year and a half of them having one of the worst offenses in football to fire him
 

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You actually hit the nail on the head of why these Rooney Rule/Kaep/Brian Flores efforts never go anywhere.

The 70 percent Black male labor force in the NFL effectively has no power to wield. In fact they do have less power than the Negro League teams pre-Jackie Robinson.

They work in service of privately-owned NFL franchises, the majority of which are White-owned and controlled.

Unless they are willing to leave that system for one in which they do own and control in numbers commensurate to their dominance as labor, nothing will ever change.
You can change it within.
listen to what the cutman was saying in 2014.

NFL players need to do just this:
 

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Propping up LeBron is corny especially because he and Obama undermined what was shaping up to be a strike which seems to be what people are calling for the NFL players to do.

You're naive if you think NBA ownership groups are the "good guys". More important than actual change to the NBA is presenting the image that they're interested in change.
 

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With black coaches you're never going to be seen as a buddy by your owner. You're not getting invited to stay at their house and down beer and nachos like Jerry did with McCarthy. You're not his guy so the minute you don't comply you're in the dog house. On the flip side if Flores tanked and went 1-15 he would've been fired after 1 season.

Like what happened to Steve Wilks.

Flores really got fired for being good at his job. :francis:
 

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You can change it within.
listen to what the cutman was saying in 2014.

NFL players need to do just this:

I'm a fan of the "Cut Man" from the old Open Line Show days when they were on KISS-FM.

The Cut Man and the Open Line team couldn't even maintain their second hour of the show when they arrived at WBLS. If I remember correctly, that is one of the reasons James Mtume left. So much for "working from within."

"Working from within" a structure simply benefits those who own and control the structure.
 

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Propping up LeBron is corny especially because he and Obama undermined what was shaping up to be a strike which seems to be what people are calling for the NBA players. You're naive if you think NBA ownership groups are the "good guys".
This is what I am talking about with regard to the black capitalist class. NBA players did what we all wanted athletes to do since forever, they had a strike during the playoffs. That shyt is mindboggling to me and shows you how sick capitalism is because that was never mentioned.

And then LeBron and Obama told them to get back to work.
 
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