*Briahna Joy Gray* looking mad grifterish

[nyknick]

You’re trying to craft a strawman here and I’m not sure why.

We all know Symone Sanders Tory. She’s even wrote a book on it.

The difference between her and the other two women mentioned is that they do fashion themselves as socialists or as you put it, “soldiers of the revolution.”

There’s a reason why folks Call BJG a grifter and not Turner. One appears to be larping.

No idea how I'm crafting a strawman and also I never even brought up Turner. I'm just simply pointing out that being a press secretary for a campaign is not a lifetime contract or a blood oath but somehow you chose to interpret that differently.

Won't happen, but people ask why folks bring Bernie into it is because his top 2 people on his 2020 campaign are accelerationist and it's clear why his movement torpedoed after his 2016 gains.

So did Bernie lose the 2020 campaign because BJG is an accelerationist or is she grifting as an accelerationist now, after the campaign loss. Has she been larping as an accelerationist even during the campaign? You're arguing both sides with yourself.

Me personally I don't really give a fukk what she is because she's irrelevant, first as a campaign press secretary (nobody even knows who was Biden's 2020 campaign press secretary) and second as a commentator/pundit because she gets no views. Her only relevance is that she can get platformed as a progressive as @storyteller pointed out.

As far as grifting goes, I'm more inclined to agree with @mastermind on this. If she's grifting she going about it in the worst way possible. There is a clear blueprint for 'leaving the left', well established and very profitable. And for a black woman that shift has to be even more flagrant but would probably be even more profitable.

But I'll admit that I've only seen some of her tweets, part of her Sam Seder debate and a large part of this Kyle Kulinski debate on 2x speed because again I don't really think she matters nearly as much as this thread makes her out to.

 

[storyteller]

All that noise just because you're embarrassed. Warren spit the shyt progressives on the left had been saying for a decade, and your goofy ass thought you discovered something. The draft Warren people wanted her to run in 2016, when she didn't, they jumped behind Bernie. They were always running on the same platforms and ideas. Look, even in that massive dump of random shyt you just threw together



You have no clue what you're talking about. All the links in the world won't change that dummy.

Here's an example of pairing Warren and Sanders timestamped; Progressives all recognized Warren and Sanders as related. Sanders was just better.


Did you watch anything you shared? Pakman says the two plans are very similar, though he thinks Bernie's estimates are more realistic here. Again, you just haven't been paying attention.

 

[Pressure]

So did Bernie lose the 2020 campaign because BJG is an accelerationist or is she grifting as an accelerationist now,

I don’t believe Bernie is an accelerationist.

Therefore having two accelerationist crafting his campaign strategy and messaging torpedoed is campaign. Largely because they weren’t interest in catering to the older black southern dem base that was going to decide his campaign in 2020 just as it did in 2020.

She’s grifting because she’s previously tried to pass herself off as a well meaning socialist — she’s not.

 

[Pressure]

As far as grifting goes, I'm more inclined to agree with @mastermind on this. If she's grifting she going about it in the worst way possible. There is a clear blueprint for 'leaving the left', well established and very profitable. And for a black woman that shift has to be even more flagrant but would probably be even more profitable.

She’s because she isn’t a great grifter doesn’t mean she isn’t grifting. This is such a terrible argument.

But I'll admit that I've only seen some of her tweets, part of her Sam Seder debate and a large part of this Kyle Kulinski debate on 2x speed because again I don't really think she matters nearly as much as this thread makes her out to.

Kinda defeats the point of her being irrelevant if she’s still popping up on popular shows and has her own show on a popular right wing network.

 

[BigBrown21]

 

[Mister Terrific]

The Netflix documentary on the rise and fall of his campaign will be first day status. The part where they talk about how black southerners saw through his charade will be

How are Black southerners doing now? Mississippi? Alabama? South Carolina? If you took a Black southerners HDI and put it up against someone from say Hong Kong where would they rate? Life expectancy? Worker rights? Education? Access to healthcare and clean water?


What charade is it that they saw through? Explain it to us.

 

[Pressure]

How are Black southerners doing now? Mississippi? Alabama? South Carolina? If you took a Black southerners HDI and put it up against someone from say Hong Kong where would they rate? Life expectancy? Worker rights? Education? Access to healthcare and clean water?


What charade is it that they saw through? Explain it to us.

Im a black southerner from a black southern family. You think we’re all hill billies or some shyt?

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

More and more people are saying the grift is in the eye or the beholder

 

[Micky Mikey]

 

[Mister Terrific]

I don’t believe Bernie is an accelerationist.

Therefore having two accelerationist crafting his campaign strategy and messaging torpedoed is campaign. Largely because they weren’t interest in catering to the older black southern dem base that was going to decide his campaign in 2020 just as it did in 2020.

She’s grifting because she’s previously tried to pass herself off as a well meaning socialist — she’s not.

Black older southerners were never going to vote for Bernie. Your average politically active boomer Black southerners did relatively well during the neo-liberal era from LBJ-Clinton. If they kept their nose clean and found a decent factory job out of high school/military service most were able to afford to purchase a home a good car and have good benefits. I know because my family is basically all this class of Black Americans.

Also ideologically Black southerners are closer ideologically to conservatives than Bernie. Only difference between the two are the fact Republicans would genocide them if given the chance, so the choice is clear.

Now their children and children’s children are fukked, but when you are that subservient to the status quo which has generally provided well for you aren’t going to rock the boat.

I remember sitting in my grandmas living room in 2016 and asking her about Bernie and she goes “I don’t know that man looks crazy, he says crazy things”. That’s what we call psychological brainwashing. The CIA and FBI was widely successful in destroying any ability for that generation of Black people to think for themselves especially when it comes to revolutionary activity. The ones that did were killed or imprisoned.

Im a black southerner from a black southern family. You think we’re all hill billies or some shyt?

Black Southerners are the most impoverished group in the western world outside of Native Americans. As I said above there is a Black class that has done well in the south as I noted above but the majority are living in near developmental country conditions. Most of these aren’t politically active.

 

[wire28]

Black older southerners were never going to vote for Bernie. Your average politically active boomer Black southerners did relatively well during the neo-liberal era from LBJ-Clinton. If they kept their nose clean and found a decent factory job out of high school/military service most were able to afford to purchase a home a good car and have good benefits. I know because my family is basically all this class of Black Americans.

Also ideologically Black southerners are closer ideologically to conservatives than Bernie. Only difference between the two are the fact Republicans would genocide them if given the chance, so the choice is clear.

Now their children and children’s children are fukked, but when you are that subservient to the status quo which has generally provided well for you aren’t going to rock the boat.

I remember sitting in my grandmas living room in 2016 and asking her about Bernie and she goes “I don’t know that man looks crazy, he says crazy things”. That’s what we call psychological brainwashing. The CIA and FBI was widely successful in destroying any ability for that generation of Black people to think for themselves especially when it comes to revolutionary activity. The ones that did were killed or imprisoned.


Black Southerners are the most impoverished group in the western world outside of Native Americans. As I said above there is a Black class that has done well in the south as I noted above but the majority are living in near developmental country conditions. Most of these aren’t politically active.

it almost sounds like you don’t think black people know what’s best for themselves I feel like I’ve heard similar sentiments somewhere before…

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Black older southerners were never going to vote for Bernie. Your average politically active boomer Black southerners did relatively well during the neo-liberal era from LBJ-Clinton. If they kept their nose clean and found a decent factory job out of high school/military service most were able to afford to purchase a home a good car and have good benefits. I know because my family is basically all this class of Black Americans.

Also ideologically Black southerners are closer ideologically to conservatives than Bernie. Only difference between the two are the fact Republicans would genocide them if given the chance, so the choice is clear.

Now their children and children’s children are fukked, but when you are that subservient to the status quo which has generally provided well for you aren’t going to rock the boat.

I remember sitting in my grandmas living room in 2016 and asking her about Bernie and she goes “I don’t know that man looks crazy, he says crazy things”. That’s what we call psychological brainwashing. The CIA and FBI was widely successful in destroying any ability for that generation of Black people to think for themselves especially when it comes to revolutionary activity. The ones that did were killed or imprisoned.


Black Southerners are the most impoverished group in the western world outside of Native Americans. As I said above there is a Black class that has done well in the south as I noted above but the majority are living in near developmental country conditions. Most of these aren’t politically active.

Polling has indicated that black people support social welfare but also want wealth creation policies and access. They're not anti-capitalists.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How are Black southerners doing now? Mississippi? Alabama? South Carolina? If you took a Black southerners HDI and put it up against someone from say Hong Kong where would they rate? Life expectancy? Worker rights? Education? Access to healthcare and clean water?


What charade is it that they saw through? Explain it to us.

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don’t believe Bernie is an accelerationist.

Therefore having two accelerationist crafting his campaign strategy and messaging torpedoed is campaign. Largely because they weren’t interest in catering to the older black southern dem base that was going to decide his campaign in 2020 just as it did in 2020.

She’s grifting because she’s previously tried to pass herself off as a well meaning socialist — she’s not.

Whats more, is Briahna ACTIVELY downplayed black messaging. She bragged about it.

Now she's Tariq Nasheed of the Left.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

All that noise just because you're embarrassed. Warren spit the shyt progressives on the left had been saying for a decade, and your goofy ass thought you discovered something. The draft Warren people wanted her to run in 2016, when she didn't, they jumped behind Bernie. They were always running on the same platforms and ideas. Look, even in that massive dump of random shyt you just threw together

If the plans are so similar, why was warren attacked for having a more detailed plan?

You can't answer this.

You have no clue what you're talking about. All the links in the world won't change that dummy.

I keep doing your homework for you, then you claim you follow up and try to score a win. You have no even done 1/10th of what I've reviewed and presented. Your only tactic is denial

Here's an example of pairing Warren and Sanders timestamped; Progressives all recognized Warren and Sanders as related. Sanders was just better.

You admitted my point. Progressives attacked Warren for having a more detailed plan.

Did you watch anything you shared? Pakman says the two plans are very similar, though he thinks Bernie's estimates are more realistic here. Again, you just haven't been paying attention.

Warren had more detailed and they all got mad because they thought they could lie to the public with less info.

Thats my point.

Warren demonstrably had more detailed plan and they all hated her for it.