Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

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1. Short term it will weaken the pound. No way around that, but, the weaker pound will also make British exports more competitive. UK exporters can now sell their goods cheaper and increase their profit margins. Which can revive the country's industries.
2. Also, the UK government proposed lowering the corporate tax rate to 15 percent to encourage business to invest in the British economy. Britain currently levies a 20 percent tax iirc. A five percent tax cut might make the country one of the most competitive global economies.
3. Would be EU contributuions can now be spent on what britiush people really want...
4. No more forced immigration which will weaken the racist.
5. The EU could collapse.

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1. Exports under wto are on average 45% compared to EU exports of 0%. Economically and financially itll be impossible to see cheaper

2. It wont happen, especially from a gov that has already started to put financially burden on citezens, ie taking away council tax support, workers rights etc.

3. What do british really want? The eu eontributions we actually got back. It benefited us more. In 2018 uk paid 13billion to eu, but got back 15.5 billion. We get back from the eu eu m than the beat ISA currently available.

4. How will stopping immigration stop racism? So your plan to stop racism is to appease racists? You complain about immigration while a immigrant (boris johnson) is the prime minister. You must be an idiot if you think racisn will stop, black people will still suffer racism

5. The EU wont collapse, but britain as we know it has already begun to collapse.
 

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1. Short term it will weaken the pound. No way around that, but, the weaker pound will also make British exports more competitive. UK exporters can now sell their goods cheaper and increase their profit margins. Which can revive the country's industries.
2. Also, the UK government proposed lowering the corporate tax rate to 15 percent to encourage business to invest in the British economy. Britain currently levies a 20 percent tax iirc. A five percent tax cut might make the country one of the most competitive global economies.
3. Would be EU contributuions can now be spent on what britiush people really want...
4. No more forced immigration which will weaken the racist.
5. The EU could collapse.

:manny:


1. Short term it will weaken the pound. No way around that, but, the weaker pound will also make British exports more competitive. UK exporters can now sell their goods cheaper and increase their profit margins. Which can revive the country's industries.
> The UK is a net Oil / Energy importer and a net importer overall right. If it were Germany maybe but if you are a net importer costs overall go UP.

2. Also, the UK government proposed lowering the corporate tax rate to 15 percent to encourage business to invest in the British economy. Britain currently levies a 20 percent tax iirc. A five percent tax cut might make the country one of the most competitive global economies.

> The UK markets itself as a low skill low cost country. It cannot compete with its peers until that changes.

3. Would be EU contributuions can now be spent on what britiush people really want...

> Yes but not immediately

4. No more forced immigration which will weaken the racist.
> Not true. Non-EU immigration will continue and ... Non-EU migration to UK highest for 14 years - but EU migration slows

The UK will cow-tow to China and India.

5. The EU could collapse.

> And ... how is that a positive for the UK?
 

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1. Exports under wto are on average 45% compared to EU exports of 0%. Economically and financially itll be impossible to see cheaper

2. It wont happen, especially from a gov that has already started to put financially burden on citezens, ie taking away council tax support, workers rights etc.

3. What do british really want? The eu eontributions we actually got back. It benefited us more. In 2018 uk paid 13billion to eu, but got back 15.5 billion. We get back from the eu eu m than the beat ISA currently available.

4. How will stopping immigration stop racism? So your plan to stop racism is to appease racists? You complain about immigration while a immigrant (boris johnson) is the prime minister. You must be an idiot if you think racisn will stop, black people will still suffer racism

5. The EU wont collapse, but britain as we know it has already begun to collapse.
:hubie:Just giving possible scenarios... I don't know whats going to happen.
2. we'll see:manny: I think its possible
3. We're about to find out... and im not seeing this UK gets more back than it puts in anywhere. Did you have a link? From what im reading the UK paid in 8 billion more than it got back.
4. Stopping forced immigration, reduces the fuel racist run on. Say what you want, but keeping them out of office is the "greater good".
5. We'll see... as far as the U.K. collapsing, I doubt it. There will just be a very rough transition. Several European nations are doing just fine outside the EU.
 

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1. Short term it will weaken the pound. No way around that, but, the weaker pound will also make British exports more competitive. UK exporters can now sell their goods cheaper and increase their profit margins. Which can revive the country's industries.
> The UK is a net Oil / Energy importer and a net importer overall right. If it were Germany maybe but if you are a net importer costs overall go UP.

2. Also, the UK government proposed lowering the corporate tax rate to 15 percent to encourage business to invest in the British economy. Britain currently levies a 20 percent tax iirc. A five percent tax cut might make the country one of the most competitive global economies.

> The UK markets itself as a low skill low cost country. It cannot compete with its peers until that changes.

3. Would be EU contributuions can now be spent on what britiush people really want...

> Yes but not immediately

4. No more forced immigration which will weaken the racist.
> Not true. Non-EU immigration will continue and ... Non-EU migration to UK highest for 14 years - but EU migration slows

The UK will cow-tow to China and India.

5. The EU could collapse.

> And ... how is that a positive for the UK?
1. :ehh:we'll see.
2.:ehh:
3. :ehh:
4. :yeshrug:That's unfortunate.
5. I'd expect being part of an EU collapse to be much more painful and lengthy than any transition the UK could go through on its on.
 

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:hubie:Just giving possible scenarios... I don't know whats going to happen.
2. we'll see:manny: I think its possible
3. We're about to find out... and im not seeing this UK gets more back than it puts in anywhere. Did you have a link? From what im reading the UK paid in 8 billion more than it got back.
4. Stopping forced immigration, reduces the fuel racist run on. Say what you want, but keeping them out of office is the "greater good".
5. We'll see... as far as the U.K. collapsing, I doubt it. There will just be a very rough transition. Several European nations are doing just fine outside the EU.
1. Its not even possible, how is a trade union that charges to export better than one that does not?

2. Its possible, but it wont happen. This gov for the past 9 years have shown they do not have the average man as a priority

3. Google it, you can literally find out how much we get back each year. Not only do we get mkney back but it allows us to work in 27 countries, and also live in said 27 countries

4. White people were racist when britain was 100% white and british. White people been racist before we joined eu and will be racist after the eu. If you cant see that then you must be a cac. But youre okay with an immigrant such as boris being primeminister?

5. Well see? Huh? Scotland are already aggresivly heading to.leave britain. Difference between other european countries is they are not islands. You think an island can prosper when its its nearest trading allie is 4,242 miles away?
 

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1. :ehh:we'll see.
2.:ehh:
3. :ehh:
4. :yeshrug:That's unfortunate.
5. I'd expect being part of an EU collapse to be much more painful and lengthy than any transition the UK could go through on its on.
People are explaining to you why brexit has no benefits yet you seem to ignore all the leading evidence
 

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Kevin O Leary from Shark Tank will be the next Canadian PM and next right wing major populist leader in a couple years

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Is Starmer the choice? Corbynistas are going at him on Twitter already :dead:





This is pretty much what I expected. Keir Starmer stands out as the obvious choice as the person most acceptable to all wings of the party.

Think of it this way: Owen Smith is pretty slimy, unlikable and completely devoid of charisma, and he nearly got 40% against Corbyn in the 2016 leadership election (when the Labour MPs tried to use Corbyn's supposed failure to campaign strongly enough against Brexit to get rid of him).

Take that nearly 40% and take into account that Starmer is a much better candidate than Owen Smith and much more acceptable to the left, and also take into account the lefty voters who are shook by the latest election and think the far-left just can't win. It's easy to see how Starmer is able to get to 60%+.

To be honest, Rebecca Long-Bailey's support in a hypothetical final round vs. Starmer is probably as high as it is only because of the support of voters who aren't necessarily left-leaning but blame Starmer for losing "leave" seats in the last election.
 
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To summarize:

1. Keir Starmer doesn't scare the Blairites like Corbyn/McDonnell do, and he is not repulsive to the left the way that Blairites are.

2. Starmer has a higher profile and seems more "credible" and "electable" than anyone else in Labour who satisfies point 1.
 
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