Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

son this is ETHER

This is...important.

 

[Cynic]

son this is ETHER

This is...important.

.you truly are an awful poster.

 

[mitter]

son this is ETHER

This is...important.

Then I suppose the 2010 and 2015 losses were repudiations of centrist/Blairite Labour and center-left Labour

 

[mitter]

It's killing me how everyone has so quickly forgotten how basically any Labour leader would have been smeared over some stupid shyt and made to be disliked, just like Corbyn.

Remember this?

Ed Miliband bacon sandwich photograph - Wikipedia



Do you remember this?

Gordon Brown calls a racist old cac a "bigoted woman." Somehow it got a thousand times more coverage in the media than Boris not giving a fukk about the photo of the child with pneumonia





And how about the Blairite Labour leader who never was, who the center-right, establishment Labour politicians and media just can't get over (David Miliband). Their knight in shining armor.

Do you really think that THIS guy was going to have mass appeal, especially once the right-wing media was through with him?

 

[King Static X]

Actually, US and UK politics have mirrored each other for quite some time


Reagan - Thatcher trickle down in the 80s

Clinton - New Labour triangulation in the 90s

Iraq War in the 2000s

Trump and Brexit in 2016



Labour and Democrats face similar challenges in terms of losing working class (largely racist/xenophobic) white voters in the industrial belt who used to form a large part of their base

 

[Red Shield]

its like jumping from the frying pan into hell
yall worried about losing the nhs? we dont even have something like that to lose
if you think those white tories are bad WAIT til you have to deal with republicans

 

[FAH1223]

It's killing me how everyone has so quickly forgotten how basically any Labour leader would have been smeared over some stupid shyt and made to be disliked, just like Corbyn.

Remember this?

Ed Miliband bacon sandwich photograph - Wikipedia



Do you remember this?

Gordon Brown calls a racist old cac a "bigoted woman." Somehow it got a thousand times more coverage in the media than Boris not giving a fukk about the photo of the child with pneumonia





And how about the Blairite Labour leader who never was, who the center-right, establishment Labour politicians and media just can't get over (David Miliband). Their knight in shining armor.

Do you really think that THIS guy was going to have mass appeal, especially once the right-wing media was through with him?

Whoever is the next Labour leader has to deal with this BS.

How can you beat this??

 

[ZoeGod]

At some point we have to accept that young people are falling in love with white wing fascism.

And largely it's because they believe they can dominate their liberal opponents through force.

Young White people you mean. With the advent of the internet right wing echo chambers are more common than era, plus declining white birth rates, the West declining plus you add non whites are growing in population and are getting more successful it plays into their anxiety of declining white power. White boys are getting more and more radicalized worldwide.

 

[Cynic]

It's nothing strange or new. Polish immigrants are the symbol of the 2004 EU expansion towards the East, ironically championned both by the US and the UK as they knew it would stretch the EU thin at a time where the founding members from western europe were debating about how to make it a more powerful and integrated block. Expansionist won, and now the EU is as divided as it ever has been, and the UK is leaving. Anyways those Polish immigrants are seen as the "migrants coming to steal our jobs", good old xenophobia that was used in France at the time (the "plombier polonais", "polish plumber", who supposedly was gonna steal the work of decent hard-working french people) and picked up later in the UK. As a sidenote, this is also why I always laugh when non-Euro brehs (the majority of the Coli) think that all Euros are the same and are one big family that only hates on non-Euros.

It's american ignorance - you have to leave the U.S. to get rid of it or stay within it to understand it.

There were some american conservatives who tried to position this as resistance against "muslim migration"

They were crickets when british muslims started supporting brexit against polish migration

 

[mitter]

Whoever is the next Labour leader has to deal with this BS.

How can you beat this??

I can already envision the smears.


For instance, Keir Starmer will be portrayed as a wooden, robotic, out-of-touch elitist Oxford-educated London lawyer.

Even though he comes from a working class background and spent his career as a lawyer fighting from the underdog.




Emily Thornberry would also be portrayed as an out-of-touch London elitist. And she'd be painted as an obnoxious, know-it-all bytch. And she'll be mocked for being fat.

Also, this will be used as evidence of her contempt for patriotic, hard working English people:

A British politician lost her job over a tweet: how to explain it to someone outside the UK






The lefties who have been closest to Corbyn/McDonnell would be smeared in much the same way Corbyn was.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Young White people you mean. With the advent of the internet right wing echo chambers are more common than era, plus declining white birth rates, the West declining plus you add non whites are growing in population and are getting more successful it plays into their anxiety of declining white power. White boys are getting more and more radicalized worldwide.

i dont disagree that this exacerbates the problem in white societies but its not just white countries. we can see that with modi in india and duterte in the philippines

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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Jeremy Corbyn killed the Labour Party. Now we must fight to revive it
Ayesha Hazarika
6-7 minutes
I knew things were going to be bad, but nothing could have prepared me for the scale of the Tory victory and the scale of Labour’s defeatnot just for the good Labour MPs who fell but for the communities and families who desperately need a progressive government.

So who’s to blame? The hard Left will say ABC — anyone but Corbyn. Brexit, the weather, the media, Maureen Lipman, the Chief Rabbi, Tony Blair, sunshine, moonlight, good times and the boogie.

But don’t be fooled. This colossal failure must be owned lock, stock and barrel by Jeremy Corbyn and his deluded henchmen and cheerleaders. They had full control of the political machine, manifesto and message. Anyone who disagreed with them was bullied into silence or out of the party, from Jewish women such as Luciana Berger to old-school bruisers such as Tom Watson. This was full-fat, full-frontal Corbynism and the British public rejected it.

This far-Left, nasty, self-indulgent, infantile, illiterate project has now been tested to destruction.

As someone who has criticised Corbyn for his failure of leadership on Brexit and anti-Semitism, many have told me this is a “blessing in disguise” as people like me can get our party back. Well, I don’t feel any joy. I feel sick about what lies ahead for this divided, angry country and people who struggle at the margins of society.


But the one thing I do feel a sense of relief about is that moderate people such as myself don’t have to pretend to go along with this ludicrous political charade anymore. And that we don’t have to be scared of the thuggish Corbyn cheerleaders who specialise in the politics of hate, especially on social media. They told people to eff off and join the Tories, and guess what? They did. In their droves.




Twitter is not real life. These bullies have been found out. They don’t matter. They never did. They may be able to organise a pile-on but they can’t pile up the votes where it matters.

Anyone who cares about restoring the Labour Party to something which can be vaguely electable should feel free of the yoke of the woke. While it’s easy to fall into a heap of despair, we have to think about the future of the party and the civil war which is about to break out . Moderates have to fight back — no matter how hard that feels right now.

This is a defeat even worse than the one Michael Foot inflicted. It takes a party decades to build itself back to being something which is credible. We can’t afford to wait that long. We need a leader who can respect the values of the Labour Party but who can look outwards and connect with the public.

I urge moderates to stay in the party or rejoin it. The fightback begins here. This is a moment to show courage and rescue Labour. To coin a phrase, it’s time to take back control.

 

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Labour will move right as well. They are all power mad, so they will target what works. In hard times "self-interest" works.

 

[FAH1223]

I can already envision the smears.


For instance, Keir Starmer will be portrayed as a wooden, robotic, out-of-touch elitist Oxford-educated London lawyer.

Even though he comes from a working class background and spent his career as a lawyer fighting from the underdog.




Emily Thornberry would also be portrayed as an out-of-touch London elitist. And she'd be painted as an obnoxious, know-it-all bytch. And she'll be mocked for being fat.

Also, this will be used as evidence of her contempt for patriotic, hard working English people:

A British politician lost her job over a tweet: how to explain it to someone outside the UK






The lefties who have been closest to Corbyn/McDonnell would be smeared in much the same way Corbyn was.

How about Angela Rayner? Isn’t she from a northern seat that voted to leave? She’s a leaver, right?

Long-Bailey?

Is Labour’s best move to vote for one of these young women?

 

[merklman]

How about Angela Rayner? Isn’t she from a northern seat that voted to leave? She’s a leaver, right?

Long-Bailey?

Is Labour’s best move to vote for one of these young women?

Starmer is the most credible. By the time of the next election, in theory brexit should be well done . . . so which way they leaned in the referendum shouldnt be in such a spotlight