Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!
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How the fukk did the Tories gain support after Windrush
Are there really any brehs who want Brexitand thus disappointed with Labour dithering
And who the fukk supports Lib Dem? Are there random Caribs in those bumfukk areas?
Someone I know said she was voting Lib Dem talked her into voting Labour though
UK is weird af. I once had the misfortune of listening to the Nigel Farage show on LBC for about half an hour. There was a couple of folk from Africa and India living in the UK ringing in bleating about Brexit and praising the bag of flatulence that is Farage, I was like
I genuinely think they're either mentally ill or very needy
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The Fisher King
Someone I know said she was voting Lib Dem talked her into voting Labour though
UK is weird af. I once had the misfortune of listening to the Nigel Farage show on LBC for about half an hour. There was a couple of folk from Africa and India living in the UK ringing in bleating about Brexit and praising the bag of flatulence that is Farage, I was like
I genuinely think they're either mentally ill or very needy
Was her seat more likely Labour, Con or Lib Dem?
Manchester so guessing Labour or Tory
Sensitive Christian Grey
The Fisher King
Yeah.
I still think the polls are not capturing Labour's full percentage of support (They are showing 33-35%, but I think the real support is probably more like 37-38%).
But the trajectories of the polls should still be able to show if Labour is gaining or losing support. And for the last week, it looks like Labour has not made any further progress in closing the gap with the Tories.
So Labour is stuck at a gap of around 8-10 points. The combination of new, young voters and a solid ground game is what makes me think the real gap is 5-6 points, but there's no way Labour can win unless there is a HUGE systematic polling error. And if that was the case, I'd expect to see at least one or two outlier polls showing Labour within a few points of the Tories (as was the case in 2017). But we haven't seen that yet.
I was hoping there would be a game-changing moment that could inspire some real movement. I thought maybe Boris' reaction to the photo of the child with pneumonia could have been it. But of course, it's been drowned out by fake news and propaganda about other stuff.
Corbyn back to the back benchesYeah.
I still think the polls are not capturing Labour's full percentage of support (They are showing 33-35%, but I think the real support is probably more like 37-38%).
But the trajectories of the polls should still be able to show if Labour is gaining or losing support. And for the last week, it looks like Labour has not made any further progress in closing the gap with the Tories.
So Labour is stuck at a gap of around 8-10 points. The combination of new, young voters and a solid ground game is what makes me think the real gap is 5-6 points, but there's no way Labour can win unless there is a HUGE systematic polling error. And if that was the case, I'd expect to see at least one or two outlier polls showing Labour within a few points of the Tories (as was the case in 2017). But we haven't seen that yet.
I was hoping there would be a game-changing moment that could inspire some real movement. I thought maybe Boris' reaction to the photo of the child with pneumonia could have been it. But of course, it's been drowned out by fake news and propaganda about other stuff.
I guess a leadership election happens next year?
I don't understand why people in the UK are so content to throw away their votes for a third party that, in a perfect world, can only win a few dozen seats.
Compare that to the US where third parties struggle to get 2% of the vote and are STILL constantly blamed for handing certain people the presidency.
Anyway, this chart illustrates the big problem Labour faces:
-Leave voters prioritize leave over everything. They might find Boris disgusting, but will vote for him to get Brexit.
-Remain voters would rather leave than have a socialist prime minister. They'd rather leave with Boris than remain with Jeremy.
Outside of a small handful of seats, any remainer who prioritizes remaining over everything else should vote Labour
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