CJ
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Its Just Discussion. Stop Sucking His dikk
You're the one that's clearly on his dikk
Bret Hart ALWAYS Whining About Something
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You're the one that's clearly on his dikk
CJ
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I dunno breh, that nikka was getting pennies thrown at him and spat on during his anti-US heel run. Definitely a different crowd back then. They were old enough to know it was all a work but treated it as if it was real. Unless they actually thought that's how he felt, which is ironic since he's half American
Vince and HBK were able to do all of that shyt because they were going against Bret.
Austin was made at the WM where he fought Bret and the double switch happened.
Bret Hart getting turned on by the fans and uniting with his family against the harshening climate of the E contributed to the beginning of the Attitude Era
Bret keeping all of the shyt real, complaining about fans having no love for him or genuine good guys anymore and siding with SCSA like Snoop at the Source Awards was part of the work shoot that began the era.
Without Bret getting screwed over who knows how long before Mr McMahon became the biggest heel in the E, got out of the booth and came forward as the bauce
Bret spitting in the face of VKM and writing WCW in the air was one of the signature moments of the era before it was donned the Attitude Era.
Bret and Austin beating the shyt out of each other and getting his ass whooped in the ambulance, then HBK superkicking him in the wheelchair and the way HBK Taker were weaved into that feud began the Era.
Bret Austin HBK McMahon was all synergy.
And the writing of it was dope shyt the way it was woven together.
Bret was a big part of the Attitude Era.
I dunno breh, that nikka was getting pennies thrown at him and spat on during his anti-US heel run. Definitely a different crowd back then. They were old enough to know it was all a work but treated it as if it was real. Unless they actually thought that's how he felt, which is ironic since he's half American
This is why I think he's kayfabing. He's basically the new age Arn Anderson
By the way, I can't believe I'm the first one to post the full interview
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/c.../Bret-Hart-reflects-on-tragedies.html?nav=751
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/566654/Bret-Hart-Q-A.html?nav=751
I didn't say they invented the concept of edgier stuff, just that they were the ones who reportedly got in McMahon's ear and really drove him to go that way. He may have had other reasons, but from what I've heard and/read, it was Michaels who actually had the talk and said that the PG stuff wasn't cutting it. This was during the early formation of DX when they were catching some flack for pushnig the envelope. Did HHH have a ton of influence then? Probably not, but he was there with Michaels doing the stuff and having the talk. Going by Michael's rep to say whatever he wanted to Vince, I'd believe it.
They weren't doing much in early 97, but they started to gain some steam doing the DX stuff by summer and into fall of 97. Austin was swearing and flipping the bird, but it was DX who were doing the raunchy sexual overtone stuff, along with the rebellious kick. They even accused the Hart Foundation of racism and called Bret the grand wizard. It was Shawn doing the worked-shoot stuff. Even Bret said he always tried to attack HBK the character, not michael hickenbottom. Shawn was the one who took it personally and went all in towards bret's real life persona.
Got it in McMahon's ear? Who the fukk would report that two guys who were failing and not changing shyt around was what flipped things upside down? Austin's T SHIRT sales is what got in Vince's ear in 1997. That's why they jobbed out to him and once they fell off, he really could care less.
CJ
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Well in fairness there wasn't much difference between HBK the character and Hickenbottom, during those times especially. Bret was pretty naive in thinking he could solely go at the HBK character without offending Shawn, despite Shawn telling him to do it.
That's sorta true, and Michaels even alluded to that in their DVD.
BUT
He mainly went after the male stripper routine and it's effect on kids. That's all character.
He never mentioned that he was a drug abuser and was an insecure menace backstage who refused jobs and held people down. That's going after the person.
Well in fairness, one side of the story
He went after him personally off-camera in the media
It was still all character stuff. Him parading around and dancing with kids in the ring, doing the stripper stuff. He didn't bring up him fukking Sunny with Candido around or having a weird boy toy relationship with Vince.
Some of it was overlap to Shawn the guy, but none of it dealt with anything beyond the presentation of HBK the character.
Compared to the Sunny days comment, which is clearly a behind the scenes affair reference with a woman that had no storyline or link to Bret the character.