Brehs Would you say grades are a pretty good indication of someone's intelligence?
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Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Good grades means you're good at following directions. That's why employers will want to hire you.
Elle Driver
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Nah, not at all actually. When I was goin to one of them wealthy white schools I witnessed a whole lot of cheating.
Same here, except I used to get paid to "tutor"
Grades are not indicative of one's intelligence, standardized testing and the way schools function over here are such bullshyt. They're not inclusive of different types of ways people learn. It's torture to have to sit down for an hour or more and regurgitate what your instructor has taught you. And plus, there's a hierarchy when it comes to learning the arts isn't taken as seriously as the sciences for example. It ruins a child's self esteem.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Grades measure academic achievement, not intelligence. They are 2 independent variables. You don't need to be intelligent to get good grades just like you don't need to get good grades to be intelligent.
It's like asking does having 1,000 yards receiving mean you're fast? Being fast can help you get that g but you don't need to be fast to get there and you don't need to get there to be considered fast.
It's like asking does having 1,000 yards receiving mean you're fast? Being fast can help you get that g but you don't need to be fast to get there and you don't need to get there to be considered fast.
Depends.To clarify, I meant book smart
Now I know having high grades in classes that requires good aptitude, memory, and logical thinking skills are basically I.Q tests in disguise......I am posting this because a lot of people seem to think having high grades doesn't necessarily mean a person is smart, but that it is just that they worked hard. IMO I generally like to support the idea that success in the hard sciences = intelligence, but that isn't the full story.as I know a few people who are truly are Super Saiyan genius level , but they really lack social intelligence. They can't empathize properly or have a normal conversation and tend to find people boring. In that sense they are stupid...Now that I'm out of Education....I think some of the most intelligent people in the world are actually those who can navigate social/professional hierarchies to their benefit
Classes such as Calculus, linear math, Organic chemistry are universally known to be very hard classes. Math especially tests a person's logical thinking, memory, and problem solving skills to a great extent.
Humans just aren't inherently good with numbers. That is why we have difficulty doing mental math. Of course there are a few exceptions, but generally it is safe to say that a lot of people struggle with math for this reason. The people who are good with math are needed, and you can be sure they will or can make a lot of money......Let's Commence with a Civil Discussion.....
If you have someone who didn't cheat, the result of a test is an indication of someone's intelligence, i.e. their ability to retain what they studied. So, you may have someone who has a strong memory and can retain things by reading it once, while someone else has to reread the material. If they score the same on the test, is the one who read it once smarter?
If they take an IQ test, that's not something you study for but it just tests how you think. So, if you are in Mensa, that's an indication that you have intelligence. That's it. It doesn't gauge other things like street smarts, artistic or musical skill, extroverted or introverted social skills.
declarative knowledge (retention and regurgitation) is the lowest measure of intelligence.
IQ test has been debunked ages ago....
Oh, I'm gonna apply to Mensa then. I forget everything.
Mensa is a joke of an organization.
The vast majority of college tests are multiple choice. Multiple choice is never a good indicator of someone's intelligence, or should I say educational fortitude.
The Graduate/Professional schools know this especially as well. Thats why even those who get high scores on their tests still have a chance to get dropped.
I don't even know why they exist.
I think it's a smart people club. They really are so smart that regular conversation bores them. I can't deny them that. It's like a regular adult talking to a child. So if they want to talk at an intelligent level with others of the same level of intelligence, that's their business.
Scantron is your friend. LOL.
For real, I was better at some course material than others. I got As in subjects I loved. But, I was way behind the bell curve in other subjects and the multiple choice scantron sheet (or as some professors called it "multiple-guess") gave me a 1 in 4 chance of being right even though I didn't know the answer.
For real, I was better at some course material than others. I got As in subjects I loved. But, I was way behind the bell curve in other subjects and the multiple choice scantron sheet (or as some professors called it "multiple-guess") gave me a 1 in 4 chance of being right even though I didn't know the answer.
Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
Most Ceo's were B and C students.
Forget not that Dubya was a C student in school. You dont need to be a genius...just smart enough. Interpret that however you'd like; scamming, kissing ass, finding shortcuts...
But to answer the question, most of the time grades arent a measure of intelligence, they are a measure of can you get something done.
Forget not that Dubya was a C student in school. You dont need to be a genius...just smart enough. Interpret that however you'd like; scamming, kissing ass, finding shortcuts...
But to answer the question, most of the time grades arent a measure of intelligence, they are a measure of can you get something done.
Exiled Martian
Was young I couldn't do good, now I can't do Bad
True DAT......... despite agreeing with you....it should be noted that in large part, for the real world, the he-is-smart-but-has-bad-grades part is irrelevant for a lot of people (I discussed this speaking to my superiors at work who do alot of senior recruiting ) who might be looking to hire someone.
For example, (I'm going to contradict myself with this), from a recruiters perspective......if I'm hiring for an entry level job for my hypothetical company, I may be interested in grades, if I have 100 resumes in front of me.I might take it upon myself to say anyone with a GPA less than 3 is immediately struck from the list. I don't care if it's because he's not intelligent or if it's because he's not motivated. If I have 10 people with 3.8 GPAs, I'll interview those 10 and see which one I like the most and which one seems the best overall fit. This way on average I'll probably do much better with my hiring , then spending all my time trying to find the diamond in the rough of the sub 3 GPA crowd....Hopefully teachers can recognize the diamond in the rough students early enough on though..after all it is their job to nurture the academically entwined types from the get go
Another problem is when some young people don't understand or graps the the value of getting good grades if they want to be a 'cog in the white collar machine' and make good money when they get older..... Perhaps they see the whole drive for wealth and status to be overrated, or they are just addicted to some vice like gaming and waste too much of their time. They might be intelligent but have unrealized potential
.........Perhaps they just find the information boring....
. Traits far more useful and something not taught in schools are critical thinking skills & the ability to question the reality that you are told (DAT Sheep mentalitiy is rife brehs). Rather students are mostly encouraged to accept reality as it is, not question what they are taught... at least until college.....History is recorded by the victors.... Also again to reiterate my many view points in this thread book smarts are no substitute for real world experience & also simply finding people who can show up to the job on time consistently.Gotta say there has been some interesting gems dropped in this thread as far as discussion goes, props to the many Coli intellects for contributing & breaking it down up in here
.P.s: Also to the pathetic sad studio type individual that keeps 1 starring ALL my threads up in HL.... for reasons unknown
....... Just know this, I really look forward to blessing you with a sibling the next time me & your birth giver biologically tango to a banging beat that you produced 
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