Brehs Would you say grades are a pretty good indication of someone's intelligence?

[Kritic]

No. My brother gets good grades, but will argue with you to the death that psychology (his chosen major) is a more important branch of science than physics, biology, and chemistry.

 

[TheReal_Broke_88m3_13]

Where and how are you in these classes where cheating is possible? Are you in a 200 person class?

My classes are 20-35 student tops, and there will usually be the Professor and TAs in there, as well as having separate desks and different exams.

Yeah, lecture hall holds 100 seats. And get this

Spoiler

The professors walked for like 5 minutes during the final exam

His attitude, was kind of like "you do what you gotta do, I remember being in undergrad"....

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

Grades in school require work ethic like homework and class work and notes

You can still get A's on the test and still fail a class
I am not trying to dawg my family but my sister has like a 4.2 GPA in high school and she is in a good college right now but when I grew up with her she didn't know how to change the oil in a car like I do, she doesn't know about th stock market as much as I do,

But I just want to say that grades do not show how smart somebody is
I only go to school for the grades anyway, if I wanted to learn about something, I shouldn't have to sitar a desk to do it

 

[Medio]

Yea I do. My senior thesis and project had a large component of advanced correlative statistics.

I didn't say your claim was false, and agree that there is a positive correlation as a whole, but there are numerous exceptions to the rule. Thats all.

yes, those are called anomalies and outliers

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

@VMR, Einstein failed because he took the exam in French, a language he was learning, and only failed the non-scientific portions of it:



http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/06/23/1115185.htm


The other two weren't in a situation to be judged by their grades. You're assuming they would have failed or done bad in an academic setting.

A fair retort..

Let me regress my stance then...many people I know went into jobs such as being a car mechanic, welder, plumber etc...most of them did terrible academically...are they smart?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

yes, those are called anomalies and outliers

Aka exceptions to the rule.

 

[Poitier]

Intelligence as constructed by Stanford-Binet has been disproven for a long time now. Anyone subscribing to that is beyond idiotic. Humans are generally in the same range of aptitude and it is environmental factors that decides who rises and who fails, not biological.

 

[Depreciating Asset]

Intelligence as constructed by Stanford-Binet has been disproven for a long time now. Anyone subscribing to that is beyond idiotic. Humans are generally in the same range of aptitude and it is environmental factors that decides who rises and who fails, not biological.

I am not familiar with the Stanford-Binet study or its disproval.

But how do you explain 4 year old geniuses? Isn't that biological and not environmental? Or should I simply accept the fact that you said 'generally' to mean that there are exceptions and precocious genius is one of those exceptions to the rule.

 

[Poitier]

I am not familiar with the Stanford-Binet study or its disproval.

But how do you explain 4 year old geniuses? Isn't that biological and not environmental? Or should I simply accept the fact that you said 'generally' to mean that there are exceptions and precocious genius is one of those exceptions to the rule.

Yeah, they are outliers. Savants and baby geniuses are not a normal occurrence, and even still, I suspect at some level, the environment plays a part, whether that be the womb or something else... Also, those kids usually have exceptional academic intelligence but lack the other kinds of intelligence whether it be social, emotional, etc.

 

[Kritic]

yes it is a 'pretty good' indication of someone's intelligence.

academic grades are like a sports season.. towards the end of a season, into the playoffs, the dust has settled and we know which the better teams are. like wise, into or out of college we already know who the smart niccas are and who the dumb fuqs are.. IF everyone finished their education.. there are some who didn't participate in the educational system and their intelligence can't be rightfully judged since they didn't consistently participate...

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. I've met a lot of dumb fukks who get good grades, and I've met a lot of smart people who get good grades. I've also met dumb fukks who get bad grades and smart fukks who get bad grades.

 

[Poitier]

Academics is mostly declarative knowledge... it's the lowest and most inadequate measure of intelligent

 

[Type Username Here]

Academics is mostly declarative knowledge... it's the lowest and most inadequate measure of intelligent

Not true for some degrees.

 

[acri1]

Grades CAN be a reflection of intelligence, but I wouldn't say they always are. They're moreso a reflection of whether the person actually cares about getting good grades. You could be the smartest person around, but if you're too lazy to do your homework or come to class then you still won't get good grades.

Personally I got very average grades, but very high ACT/SAT scores (especially for DPS student w/no test prep).

 

[Dooby]

The vast majority of college tests are multiple choice. Multiple choice is never a good indicator of someone's intelligence, or should I say educational fortitude.