Brehs im starting to think Wiseman will be a bust

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I was listening the hoop collective pod when they was talking about the warriors off-season the Nick guy said Steph don’t like playing with him. Basically said Wiseman got zero basketball IQ and get lost on offense and defense. I never really attention to Wiseman so idk.
Do you know what episode this is?
 
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I was listening the hoop collective pod when they was talking about the warriors off-season the Nick guy said Steph don’t like playing with him. Basically said Wiseman got zero basketball IQ and get lost on offense and defense. I never really attention to Wiseman so idk.
Nick would be 100% right.

This is the problem when folks get enamored with size and athletic ability (never mind the fact he's not even that athletic), they are quick to brush aside the most important aspects of the game. Being big and athletic doesn't make you smart. Besides his stone hands, his lack of lateral quickness, and the glaring absence of basketball skill, the worst part of his play, and the part that can rarely ever be fixed, is his BBIQ. He didn't even know how to screen properly last season. Even a big oaf like Noel came into the league and knew the basics of screening.

So while he most certainly can improve his shooting and specific skills that will allow him to be at least productive, it's not going to matter in the grand scheme of things when his BBIQ isn't going to improve in equal measure.

I mentioned this a while back:
The Warriors don't have time to give him time.

This has been the point all along.

And these generic excuses of him coming straight out of HS, having no pre-season etc don't really hold up to reality. Everyone can see he has bad hands, can't set screens, doesn't know where to be on defense, and has bad awareness and BBIQ, in general. Those are things that aren't easily fixed; they're part of your DNA. You watch any great big man at the same age, and those were never issues for them. Wiseman can get stronger, become a better shooter, have better conditioning - those are all things he can realistically improve on. But he doesn't have a feel for the game, which you either have or you don't have, and even if there's the slim chance he does end up working it out, the Warriors' current window will be long closed.
 

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Never going to a focal point for the warriors cause they are all about trying to do right by steph so he won't ever be more than a role player on that team...

I expect him to get moved eventually for when the warriors try to turn their young draft picks into another star player...well wait to see how he looks when he's ask to do more than catch lobs and defend the rim...

Could be having articles written about him being the next great spurs big man if Cokehead Klay hadn't fukked it all up :pacspit:

Damn I hate these nikkas:pacspit:
 

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Nick would be 100% right.

This is the problem when folks get enamored with size and athletic ability (never mind the fact he's not even that athletic), they are quick to brush aside the most important aspects of the game. Being big and athletic doesn't make you smart. Besides his stone hands, his lack of lateral quickness, and the glaring absence of basketball skill, the worst part of his play, and the part that can rarely ever be fixed, is his BBIQ. He didn't even know how to screen properly last season. Even a big oaf like Noel came into the league and knew the basics of screening.

So while he most certainly can improve his shooting and specific skills that will allow him to be at least productive, it's not going to matter in the grand scheme of things when his BBIQ isn't going to improve in equal measure.

I mentioned this a while back:
Yes exactly. Also when you bring a guy in for an individual workout, it doesn't simulate a real game situation. Wiseman is a beast 1 on 1 but put 9 guys around him and he has no idea where to go or what he should be doing.

You have to see plays happen before they happen, you have anticipate, he can't do either. And these are things that are very hard to teach.
 

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Has he played in any preseason games yet? Haven't heard his name at all this season. He went to the wrong franchise imo. GS is not about big men at all

GSW has never been about a real big man, and this goes back to the early 90's when I first started watching NBA tough.

that said, dude tore his meniscus, so maybe its been out of sight, out of mind regarding him.
 

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He played 3 college games draft players who only played 3 college games instead of Lamelo bruhs:russ:

Watch Wiseman and Lamelo in individual workouts and still take Wiseman brehs:mjlol:

Warriors are/were stocked to the rafters with wings. Didn’t hurt at the time to take a flyer on Wiseman. Not like it’s a franchise altering bad decision and he still may turn out to be something
 

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We should’ve taken melo smh
Breh, the Warriors told Melo they were picking him. He was holding up the deuce believing he was up next:




Jalen Rose: "And by the way, the night of the draft, the Golden State Warriors told LaMelo Ball they were going to take him next and they didn’t do it.”

David Jacoby: “Really?”

JR: “That story gonna come out soon.”

DJ: “Huh.”

JR: “They told him they was taking him and they didn’t do it. I was on the phone.”

DJ: “That’s rude.”

JR: “They told him they was goin to take him.”


:mjcry:
 

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Warriors aren't expecting him to make notable progression until next season.

Do you not see how that's an issue with the timeline of Steph/Klay/Draymond, who've probably got 1-2 seasons left to contend? Do you not think that pick could've been used on other assets that helped maximize their closing window?
Sure. But we don't know if that was the Warriors intent with the pick. Many teams draft the best player on their board regardless of fit or rawness.

But hold up....you were advocating for deni avdija, who didn't do a damn thing on a talented-less wizards teams. :unimpressed:
 
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