BREAKING: Trump now officially moves to end DACA, wants congress to replace the policy March 2018

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Even the usage of the term "deferred" in the act itself infers that it is only temporary, ie; it isn't guaranteed to be in effect forever. Like when you take out a loan with deferred interest. After the promotional period, if your debt isn't paid off, you're on the hook for the interest....from the beginning.

This is in lieu of LAWS that are already ON THE BOOKS. So what's the problem with putting it to an end?

Liberals need to just come out and be honest - they don't want borders. They want a free for all. Emphasis on "Free."

The hysterical thing is that even Bernie Sanders is not in support of having open borders. He says that it is a terrible policy that the 1% wants and that it hurts American workers. He is not opposed to the DACA people, though. I am the same way, but some of these people are arguing for straight up open borders, which is insane. No country across the globe has that, and they are extremely strict on illegal immigration. Yet, the USA is supposed to be a free for all. Yeah no, that is when liberalism really goes way too extreme.
 

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All of this could have been avoided if we just started applying laws that were already in effect. We don't need "immigration reform," because the laws are already on the books.

But these political parties are all thirsty for votes, so here we are.

What we need to do is just let these people who are here rock, but they should hit with heavy fines....but from here on out it should be AMERICANS FIRST. Period.




If you are black most of America don't consider you American either...:manny:

Just saying, "American" in the current context DON'T include your black ass. You really think MAGA means you...:laff:
 

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yeah, i wanna move to japan and just chill so bad for a few months but i know them brehs are not having me and rightfully so. they are protecting their people, economically and socially, first.

america really is the only place you can do this shyt and "get away" with it :mjlol:

Its called a melting pot.......its no man's land......its funny how now all of a sudden cats are taking honor and pride in being an American though.........
 

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There is a huge disparity between 13% and 33%. In addition, that 13% is for black men while the 33% is for all Hispanics. If you compare the percentage of black men who voted for Trump to the percentage of Hispanic men who voted for him, the disparity is going to be even higher. Something tells me that you already are aware of that. If you support Dreamers, then that is not a problem; however, the way that you presented that support is extremely faulty. I seriously wonder how some of you graduated from a university with the way that you present your arguments. It is perplexing.

It is a weak comparison I'll admit. Clearly. However, I brought it up to show that the school of thought is represented in OUR community as well. We have no monopoly on benevolence.
 

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Its called a melting pot.......its no man's land......its funny how now all of a sudden cats are taking honor and pride in being an American though.........
the melting pot doesnt stop just because people have to follow the rules, thats what you are missing.

no one is saying "stop immigration for ever" so dont be dramatic.
 
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yeah, i wanna move to japan and just chill so bad for a few months but i know them brehs are not having me and rightfully so. they are protecting their people, economically and socially, first.

america really is the only place you can do this shyt and "get away" with it :mjlol:

It is the only place where it is happening.
 

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If you are black most of America don't consider you American either...:manny:

Just saying, "American" in the current context DON'T include your black ass. You really think MAGA means you...:laff:

I am not black but I am fully aware that this is far from some racial utopia. That doesn't mean things like borders and the rule of law need to be thrown out the window.
 

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The hysterical thing is that even Bernie Sanders is not in support of having open borders. He says that it is a terrible policy that the 1% wants and that it hurts American workers. He is not opposed to the DACA people, though. I am the same way, but some of these people are arguing for straight up open borders, which is insane. No country across the globe has that, and they are extremely strict on illegal immigration. Yet, the USA is supposed to be a free for all. Yeah no, that is when liberalism really goes way too extreme.

Having open boarders is not "liberalism" you twat, that's what the country was founded on and how so many people of different backgrounds ended up here in the first place. Fighting illegal immigration is not bad, but treating people like they are shyt because they are illegal immigrants IS WRONG. Its not if and or buts about it........not to mention the real winners of this is not black people...:mjlol:..........

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Its just another hustle people.......but all keep drinking that kool aid...........
 

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Bro....Hispanics had DECADES to foster a relationship with Blacks. Instead they called us ******s and mayate. Monkeys. Apes. Animals. They had DECADES to get right and bond with Blacks. They didn't. I know you're Hispanic since you're defending these wannabe cacs but you should be smart enough to understand this. Why should we give a fukk? Hispanics crying and begging like Littlefinger right now. You have no allies.....because you treated potential allies like shyt to suck up to white people. Now shyt real and you begging for help.

See ya.

We'll be aight.

We been here 400 years already. We already been slaves and second class citizens. We'll find a way to shoulder on. Hispanics not so much :sas2:
I'm not mexican, but thanks for racially profiling me.
"We'll be fine, we've been here 400 years, we'll be fine :youngsabo:"

This entire continent was Mexican's, Native Americans, etc. for thousands of years breh :martin:

You honestly have no idea what the fukk you're talking about, and must live in some delusional bubble reality.

My brother is still in highschool, and caught members of his ASB using the n-word without any guilt.

He brought his school's (50% hispanic) attention to the issue, and the MECHA kids (AKA the DREAM Act kids that you're trying to deport) instantly were up in arms, and currently they're trying to get those students removed from the student gov't.

School started less than a week ago, and this is all went down in the time sincee. Mexican children are definitely not fukking with anti-black white supremacism. But because you live in a delusional reality, all you want to focus on is the instances that support your argument.

Say Mexicans don't like blacks, then deport the mexican children fighting for blacks to not be dehumanized, brehs.
 
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I'm not mexican, but thanks for racially profiling me.
"We'll be fine, we've been here 400 years, we'll be fine :youngsabo:"

This entire continent was Mexican's, Native Americans, etc. for thousands of years breh :martin:

You honestly have no idea what the fukk you're talking about, and must live in some delusional bubble reality.

My brother is still in highschool, and caught members of his ASB using the n-word without any guilt.

He brought his schools attention to the issue, and the MECHA kids (AKA the DREAM Act kids that you're trying to deport) instantly were up in arms, and currently they're trying to get those students removed from the student gov't.

School started less than a week ago, and this is all went down in the time sense. Mexican children are definitely not fukking with anti-black white supremacism. But because you live in a delusional reality, all you want to focus on is the instances that support your argument.

Say Mexicans don't like blacks, then deport the mexican children fighting for blacks to not be dehumanized, brehs.

:duck: cool story but one instance of a mexican stepping up for black people doesn't change shyt. We're not looking for symbolic change:umad:
 

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What? Nobody is turning down a 70k job in the job climate right now, are you kidding? We aren't talking about picking fruits in some field here.

Black men would happily work those jobs if they paid a decent wage + benefits, especially if the job could be union-nized.

The benefit of citizenship lies right here. Lower pay & no insurance is a huge savings to corporations and true Americans are the only ones getting shafted.

If why can't ex cons work these jobs. Wouldn't this option provide jobs & decrease crime?
 

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:duck: cool story but one instance of a mexican stepping up for black people doesn't change shyt. We're not looking for symbolic change:umad:
Your side's the one bringing up single instances, not me.

"One instance of a mexican"

NO stupid.

The point was that many kids are completely are furious about this, my brother got like 79 likes when he first outed his racist ASB.

Meanwhile, it's your side that keeps bringing up single instances of a mexican immigrant shooting a black citizen as your reasoning for why we should be deporting thousands of children.
 

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I saw somewhere else people were saying "Oh these are people making 70-100k a year in some cases and now they will of a sudden have no way to feed their families"

I'm thinking but if they are making 70 to 100k that's a job that could have gone to a legal American citizen....that's kind of the point.
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I am not black but I am fully aware that this is far from some racial utopia. That doesn't mean things like borders and the rule of law need to be thrown out the window.

I'm not arguing for borders...and also recognize that the term "rule of law" is loaded phrase for basically Fascism.

Not saying you lack the ability to make the argument, but there is nuance here that I'm not sure you can see if your aren't brown or black. No one is saying throw the law out the window...

But DACA was LAW and they just threw it out the window...why? Ask yourself why? and why now?

How is it that Obama who was tough as fukk on deportations and immigration allowed DACA to go through? Because morale, public image, and most of all MONEY are just as important as "law".

Ending DACA erodes a multi-billion dollar tax base and boots in our military.

:duck: cool story but one instance of a mexican stepping up for black people doesn't change shyt. We're not looking for symbolic change:umad:

Symbolic change has to adjust the social paradigm before systemic change can happen. :beli:
 
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