BREAKING: Tom Holland Cast As Spider-Man

[Airtrack360]

I feel you on that but again thats like saying we're giving you spider man without using uncle ben's death as a catalyst...or we're giving you iron man without using him being held captive behind enemy lines as a catalyst...or captain america with no super soldier formula...all of that stuff is KEY to character. It's not about being beholden to the comics or even replicating it its about sticking to the initial inciting incidents that created the characters or took them in a different direction, etc. You can play lose with story and mix and match things and do what works for your medium and your creativity but for the most part, these flicks have stuck true to at least the things that made these people decide to put on suits and fight bad guys, even if it's configured in a new way. Peter's death is as key to Miles being spider man as Ben's death is to peter and to take that way robs both of them especially Miles. Peter is his inciting incident. The fact that he was a scared kid who was in way over his head and then he sees the inspiration that this other guy had on so many people and that perks him up a bit...then the fact that he got the blessing from Pete's aunt and girlfriend also says a lot about Miles and his character but it was also a learning experience for him. When you take stuff like that off the table just because you feel like you want to see what you want to see, you end up doing a disservice to the characters you love and making your film weaker in the process

These events could be substituted for something else and still give the same results. It's nothing new and marvel and Sony have done it with all there movies. The family dynamic with fantastic 4 was changed with Sue storm. Being adopted and Johnny being black but it still gave the same result.

 

[MartyMcFly]

These events could be substituted for something else and still give the same results. It's nothing new and marvel and Sony have done it with all there movies. The family dynamic with fantastic 4 was changed with Sue storm. Being adopted and Johnny being black but it still gave the same result.

Here's the thing though: That doesn't alter the origin of the team. That's a cosmetic change. Their inciting incident, the thing that took them from scientists to heroes, is still happening and it's based on something from the ultimate universe so even then, it's sticking to an origin from the comic book. Johnny being black doesn't rob his character of anything. But saying that peter became spider man without uncle ben dying or miles became spider man without peter dying robs them both of some key necessary shyt..tell me what's necessary about Johnny being white? He and Sue can still be brother and sister, whether they be adopted, whether they be from a mixed race family, whether they even be step brother and step sister, the dynamic is still there and it's still in effect.

 

[feelosofer]

I like Tom Holland as an actor, I guess they are going extra young which actually suits the superhero just fine.

 

[Roman Brady]

Only thing that sucks about another reboot is the plans they originally had for the sinister six film following the last spidey flick. Seems like it was going to be interesting.

And Miles Morales and his story would have been a better change of pace, instead of being reintroduced to Peter Parker for A third tiwme.

how good did amazing Spiderman 2 look on paper tho, I just don't think we could have got anything stellar from that franchise due to the lack of vision of the heads in charge. I mean look at the horrid way they introduced rhino? Was that suppose to keep us wanting more?

 

[Airtrack360]

Here's the thing though: That doesn't alter the origin of the team. That's a cosmetic change. Their inciting incident, the thing that took them from scientists to heroes, is still happening and it's based on something from the ultimate universe so even then, it's sticking to an origin from the comic book. Johnny being black doesn't rob his character of anything. But saying that peter became spider man without uncle ben dying or miles became spider man without peter dying robs them both of some key necessary shyt..tell me what's necessary about Johnny being white? He and Sue can still be brother and sister, whether they be adopted, whether they be from a mixed race family, whether they even be step brother and step sister, the dynamic is still there and it's still in effect.

Obviously nothing because I said the result is the same. If Aunt May died instead of Uncle Ben, Spiderman could still be Spiderman. Uncle Ben dieing is just an event that motivated Peter to do what he does. That motivation could easily come from another event and not change who Peter Parker is.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Obviously nothing because I said the result is the same. If Aunt May died instead of Uncle Ben, Spiderman could still be Spiderman. Uncle Ben dieing is just an event that motivated Peter to do what he does. That motivation could easily come from another event and not change who Peter Parker is.

Hm I disagree with that actually. Ben dying is key because he's the one who always tried to teach him about responsibility; and Ben was the breadwinner of the family. When it was just Peter and May, that gave him more responsibility because he had to contribute whereas with Ben, that would've been taken care of. It wouldn't be the same thing, you're again changing important things about the character.

For my money, Peter can be black, white, orange, whatever. But the key thing in his life at least early on, is the death of his uncle, the guy who tried to teach him how to live and the best way to live. If you say "well we're giving that to May now" then now you're changing characters because her character would change, Peter's would change and Ben's would change. And there's something really cool about the relationship she and Peter have and it's even better now that she's moved away and has her own life and he's got his

 

[Airtrack360]

Hm I disagree with that actually. Ben dying is key because he's the one who always tried to teach him about responsibility; and Ben was the breadwinner of the family. When it was just Peter and May, that gave him more responsibility because he had to contribute whereas with Ben, that would've been taken care of. It wouldn't be the same thing, you're again changing important things about the character.

For my money, Peter can be black, white, orange, whatever. But the key thing in his life at least early on, is the death of his uncle, the guy who tried to teach him how to live and the best way to live. If you say "well we're giving that to May now" then now you're changing characters because her character would change, Peter's would change and Ben's would change. And there's something really cool about the relationship she and Peter have and it's even better now that she's moved away and has her own life and he's got his

You don't get it... It's not changing the character, its changing the events. Peter isn't Spiderman because of Ben's death, he is Spiderman because of how that event affected him. You can substitute that event and it could affect him in just the same way and just as equally and in the end he's still Spiderman.

 

[MartyMcFly]

You don't get it... It's not changing the character, its changing the events. Peter isn't Spiderman because of Ben's death, he is Spiderman because of how that event affected him. You can substitute that event and it could affect him in just the same way and just as equally and in the end he's still Spiderman.

I disagree but we're going to have to agree to disagree because clearly we won't come to an agreement on it. He'd still be spider man but again you're changing so much at that point and it would make different characters

 

[KravenMorehead™]

man fukk miles morales. im black and i want a white spider man, i want a white captain america, and a white human torch. and thor is a man. fukk this new shyt.

Son looks fine. They not doing another origin story, he's already spider man in the movie, how many times do people have to hear this to understand it? my fukking head hurts reading people's "another reboot?" comments.

There's been 5 fukking on screen Batman's... 5.

they obviously, are going the Harry Potter route, he's gonna age into the character as they phase out all of the older actors. They're securing they're future. This is prolly gonna be a 7 film arc for him, from childhood, to manhood. He's their marquee character, it's a fukking No BRAINER!!!!

Marvel is transitioning into Film's being in the foreground and the comics playing the back. That's why if you go in the video game store, or toy store you never see X-Men or Fantastic Four represented. They are pushing their cinematic Universe as their main properties

You literally said everything a nikka was too irritated to say. Catch this rep

 

[Bigbigguy]

I'll always love Ultimate Spider-Man but I have no interest in seeing a high school spider-man flick.

 

[Erik Killmonger]

So is this the Spidey thread now???



Marisa Tomei Joins The Cast Of Marvel's SPIDER-MAN As 'Aunt May'

Following the news that Tom Holland will play Spider-Man, it's been revealed today that Marvel and Sony have chosen Marisa Tomei (Trainwreck, The Wrestler) to play Peter Parker's Aunt May. It seems like an odd casting decision, right? Well, hit the jump for details...

Variety reports that Marvel and Sony have chosen Marisa Tomei to play Peter Parker's Aunt May in Spider-Man. While the deal isn't in place just yet, it definitely sounds like it will happen, and this is a very interesting and unexpected decision. At first glace, it seems like she's too young to play the character, but bear in mind that Tom Holland's Spidey will be around 15 or 16, and Tomei is 50.

There are obviously no details about what kind of role she'll play in the movie at this point, but the site has an interesting update on what's happening behind the scenes. Marvel and Sony are apparently looking for a writer to work alongside director Jon Watts, but are currently looking to prioritise finding a cast they can sign up for multiple movies before production starts next year. Tomei isn't expected to show up in Captain America: Civil War, but Holland still is. What do you guys think about this casting decision? As always, let us know your thoughts in the usual place!
Source: Variety

 

[MartyMcFly]

So is this the Spidey thread now???



Marisa Tomei Joins The Cast Of Marvel's SPIDER-MAN As 'Aunt May'

Following the news that Tom Holland will play Spider-Man, it's been revealed today that Marvel and Sony have chosen Marisa Tomei (Trainwreck, The Wrestler) to play Peter Parker's Aunt May. It seems like an odd casting decision, right? Well, hit the jump for details...

Variety reports that Marvel and Sony have chosen Marisa Tomei to play Peter Parker's Aunt May in Spider-Man. While the deal isn't in place just yet, it definitely sounds like it will happen, and this is a very interesting and unexpected decision. At first glace, it seems like she's too young to play the character, but bear in mind that Tom Holland's Spidey will be around 15 or 16, and Tomei is 50.

There are obviously no details about what kind of role she'll play in the movie at this point, but the site has an interesting update on what's happening behind the scenes. Marvel and Sony are apparently looking for a writer to work alongside director Jon Watts, but are currently looking to prioritise finding a cast they can sign up for multiple movies before production starts next year. Tomei isn't expected to show up in Captain America: Civil War, but Holland still is. What do you guys think about this casting decision? As always, let us know your thoughts in the usual place!
Source: Variety

Wooooooooooow. I wouldn't ever in a million years have seen this coming. Interesting

 

[MartyMcFly]

It's still bugged out they don't have a writer yet tho. But maybe it'll work out, casting the movie first and then tailoring the parts to the cast you have

 

[Dillah810]

Sexy ass Aunt May

 

[Roman Brady]

Ain't May isn't suppose to be remotely desirable is she