BREAKING: Tom Holland Cast As Spider-Man

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Every Spiderman actor is meh :childplease:
The franchise is built around meh :childplease:
Spiderman's back story is meh :childplease:
Donald Glover would be the least meh thing there :childplease:

Andrew's better...and his backstory is anything but meh breh..high school kid who's been picked on and put upon and an outcast his whole life gets powers to finally lash out at the world that he felt did him a disservice and in his selfishness and ego and arrogance, he ends up causing the death of a father figure he loved dearly which creates guilt, humility, and inspires a new sense of responsibility and he decides to help others with his powers rather than helping himself which is what he was doing and what he intended to do. That's anything but meh..its filled with irony and pathos and tragedy
 

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I have no idea who the dude is you mentioned. I was talking about the final 3 choices that Marvel and Sony were fighting over and he wasn't one of them.
he was part of the initial 6 or so final choices so specifically mentioning the last 3 is kinda redundant. The shortlist is the shortlist and out of the bunch he was the best. Watch season 2 of homeland to see what I mean
 
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Only thing that sucks about another reboot is the plans they originally had for the sinister six film following the last spidey flick. Seems like it was going to be interesting.

And Miles Morales and his story would have been a better change of pace, instead of being reintroduced to Peter Parker for A third time.
 

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Only thing that sucks about another reboot is the plans they originally had for the sinister six film following the last spidey flick. Seems like it was going to be interesting.

And Miles Morales and his story would have been a better change of pace, instead of being reintroduced to Peter Parker for A third time.

Can't do Miles without Peter though..It'd be like saying Peter became spider-man without uncle ben dying
 

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Can't do Miles without Peter though..It'd be like saying Peter became spider-man without uncle ben dying

I'm not saying don't mention him because clearly Parker is key to the transition of Miles becoming Spider-Man. I'm just saying the films should have a different focus as far as the main character. What can be told about Peter that they haven't already covered?

Anytime they do make progress with the character, they reboot him (the transition from Tobey to Garfield was understandable). Idk fam, guess I'm tired of the same story being told
 

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I'm not saying don't mention him because clearly Parker is key to the transition of Miles becoming Spider-Man. I'm just saying the films should have a different focus as far as the main character. What can be told about Peter that they haven't already covered?

Anytime they do make progress with the character, they reboot him (the transition from Tobey to Garfield was understandable). Idk fam, guess I'm tired of the same story being told

Well as a spider man devotee, I guess I'll never get tired of it but also I'm a fan of the comics and I know they haven't told nearly anywhere close to all of the stories yet. There's the kingpin story, there's a mysterio story to tell, there's several great kraven stories to tell and with the civil war being this whole thing of superhero registration, there's a story to tell there whichever side of the fence they have him fall on. If the superhero registration act becomes the law and he chooses to go with it or go against it, there's a story there in dealing with the consequences. There's a hobgoblin story and there's a story eventually of him deciding to get married...or the fact that Peter's life hasn't just revolved around two women...there's an organized crime story they haven't told for some stupid reason and eventually, a sinister six story but with all the pieces in play. Obviously I'm bias on this one because he's my favorite character so I'm never going to say "nope, I'm tired of Peter Parker" but even objectively I can say there's a lot more ground to cover
 

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Sally Avril, Randy Robertson, Kong, Felicia Hardy, Liz Allen, her brother Mark Allen...the true idea of him dealing with all of this on his shoulders while being just a kid and trying to do homework or pass a chemistry test. There's plenty to be mined there and you can always extrapolate backwards and have him tangle with someone like the kingpin as a 16 year old and it'll affect him differently than it would as a 26 year old.

I had to look up those characters and they sound like they would stink as far as taking up screen time...Im sure comic book fans might care but nah,this is do or die time....Weve already seen the struggle of Peter having alot to deal with while being Spiderman,yet he always manages....Weve seen him struggle to stay awake and do homework because hes Spiderman but hes a genius so he still manages:francis:....Struggles with women because he's a nerd and struggles to keep a girlfriend,yet he still manages to keep models on his arm:francis:

id rather see Peter suffer from a lean addiction like Bieber,or be suicidal at this point:pachaha:....im really not feeling the struggle.

They'd be better off making up new more realistic struggles and ignoring the ones he's famous for at this point.
 

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I had to look up those characters and they sound like they would stink as far as taking up screen time...Im sure comic book fans might care but nah,this is do or die time....Weve already seen the struggle of Peter having alot to deal with while being Spiderman,yet he always manages....Weve seen him struggle to stay awake and do homework because hes Spiderman but hes a genius so he still manages:francis:....Struggles with women because he's a nerd and struggles to keep a girlfriend,yet he still manages to keep models on his arm:francis:

id rather see Peter suffer from a lean addiction like Bieber,or be suicidal at this point:pachaha:....im really not feeling the struggle.

They'd be better off making up new more realistic struggles and ignoring the ones he's famous for at this point.

Homie the only way characters become known to people outside of comics is to give them limelight in something bigger. You can always make up new obstacles but the core things he deals with are always going to be the core things he deals with. And trust me those characters I mentioned wouldn't stink because they have history and it's already been shown how to make something critically acclaimed using them:whoknows: in the hand of a good writer, there's no such thing as a bad character
 

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man fukk miles morales. im black and i want a white spider man, i want a white captain america, and a white human torch. and thor is a man. fukk this new shyt.

Son looks fine. They not doing another origin story, he's already spider man in the movie, how many times do people have to hear this to understand it? my fukking head hurts reading people's "another reboot?" comments.:ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd:

There's been 5 fukking on screen Batman's... 5.

they obviously, are going the Harry Potter route, he's gonna age into the character as they phase out all of the older actors. They're securing they're future. This is prolly gonna be a 7 film arc for him, from childhood, to manhood. He's their marquee character, it's a fukking No BRAINER!!!! :mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown:

Marvel is transitioning into Film's being in the foreground and the comics playing the back. That's why if you go in the video game store, or toy store you never see X-Men or Fantastic Four represented. They are pushing their cinematic Universe as their main properties
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Well as a spider man devotee, I guess I'll never get tired of it but also I'm a fan of the comics and I know they haven't told nearly anywhere close to all of the stories yet. There's the kingpin story, there's a mysterio story to tell, there's several great kraven stories to tell and with the civil war being this whole thing of superhero registration, there's a story to tell there whichever side of the fence they have him fall on. If the superhero registration act becomes the law and he chooses to go with it or go against it, there's a story there in dealing with the consequences. There's a hobgoblin story and there's a story eventually of him deciding to get married...or the fact that Peter's life hasn't just revolved around two women...there's an organized crime story they haven't told for some stupid reason and eventually, a sinister six story but with all the pieces in play. Obviously I'm bias on this one because he's my favorite character so I'm never going to say "nope, I'm tired of Peter Parker" but even objectively I can say there's a lot more ground to cover
Are they really telling stories from the comics though? I mean they are using characters and events but actual storylines from the comics arnt really happening.

They can do Miles without Peter if they wanted. They could so them both in the same world if they wanted. The X-Men movies are very different from the comics, same with the Avengers. The Age of Ultron movie is really no different than having Miles without Peter. The source story was different but the characters were somewhat the same.

People need to realize the movies can do whatever they want with the character just like all the different comic universes can do the same. Earth 616 is not the MCU and neither is battle world. Just because something happens in the comics doesn't mean the movies have to adapt it.

Marvel is fooling you into thinking that's what they are doing because they are naming their movies off of comic book storyline. Age of Ultron was nothing like the comic, Civil War will be nothing like the comic, and Infinity War will be nothing like the comic. X-Men Days of Future Past didn't even try. Age of Apocalypse I'm sure will be nothing like the comics.

So they are not limited or beholden to anything really.
 

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Are they really telling stories from the comics though? I mean they are using characters and events but actual storylines from the comics arnt really happening.

They can do Miles without Peter if they wanted. They could so them both in the same world if they wanted. The X-Men movies are very different from the comics, same with the Avengers. The Age of Ultron movie is really no different than having Miles without Peter. The source story was different but the characters were somewhat the same.

People need to realize the movies can do whatever they want with the character just like all the different comic universes can do the same. Earth 616 is not the MCU and neither is battle world. Just because something happens in the comics doesn't mean the movies have to adapt it.

Marvel is fooling you into thinking that's what they are doing because they are naming their movies off of comic book storyline. Age of Ultron was nothing like the comic, Civil War will be nothing like the comic, and Infinity War will be nothing like the comic. X-Men Days of Future Past didn't even try. Age of Apocalypse I'm sure will be nothing like the comics.

So they are not limited or beholden to anything really.

I feel you on that but again thats like saying we're giving you spider man without using uncle ben's death as a catalyst...or we're giving you iron man without using him being held captive behind enemy lines as a catalyst...or captain america with no super soldier formula...all of that stuff is KEY to character. It's not about being beholden to the comics or even replicating it its about sticking to the initial inciting incidents that created the characters or took them in a different direction, etc. You can play lose with story and mix and match things and do what works for your medium and your creativity but for the most part, these flicks have stuck true to at least the things that made these people decide to put on suits and fight bad guys, even if it's configured in a new way. Peter's death is as key to Miles being spider man as Ben's death is to peter and to take that way robs both of them especially Miles. Peter is his inciting incident. The fact that he was a scared kid who was in way over his head and then he sees the inspiration that this other guy had on so many people and that perks him up a bit...then the fact that he got the blessing from Pete's aunt and girlfriend also says a lot about Miles and his character but it was also a learning experience for him. When you take stuff like that off the table just because you feel like you want to see what you want to see, you end up doing a disservice to the characters you love and making your film weaker in the process
 
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