BREAKING: The Chicago Bulls are trading two-time All-Defensive guard Alex Caruso to the Oklahoma City Thunder for guard Josh Giddey, sources tell ESPN

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had to get Kiddey up out of there. why on earth would chicago agree to this deal???
Sounds like a win win. What is Chicago going to do with Caruso anyways? Giddey is a young promising playmaker they can develop.

For OKC, Giddey’s strengths ain’t really fit their needs with SGA.
 

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Giddey defense is so bad, literally an eye sore to watch. It was hard to switch hard to do any defensive gameplan cause of his negative wingspan. Caruso is a dog that can shoot pass dribble defend, i love this deal.
I can tell you right now that Caruso is even more impactful than what your expectations are. Until he’s on your team and you watch him nightly, it’s hard to understand. He’s an an absolute game changer defensively. His point of attack defense is wild and dude can switch all the way down and effectively guard 4s. He’s an even crazier multiplier when you put him by other good defenders, the brief time we had him and Lonzo, they were like dobermans on the perimeter, and the Bulls were leading the East standings.
 

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I can tell you right now that Caruso is even more impactful than what your expectations are. Until he’s on your team and you watch him nightly, it’s hard to understand. He’s an an absolute game changer defensively. His point of attack defense is wild and dude can switch all the way down and effectively guard 4s. He’s an even crazier multiplier when you put him by other good defenders, the brief time we had him and Lonzo, they were like dobermans on the perimeter, and the Bulls were leading the East standings.
Shot 41% from 3 also...
 

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Yup, it's why i feel they're basically Boston 2.0 in the making, i actually forgot all about Dort and was thinking of Caruso as their "Jrue". I don't even think having Holmgren at the 5 is bad, if not for the other 4 guys (SGA/JW/AC/Dort) all being 6'6, 6'5, 6'4, and 6'3.

Boston can get away with KP at the 5 because Tatum himself is 6'8/6'9, which means any offensively circumstantial PF like Aaron Gordon can't exploit that matchup. So ideally I feel they need 2 pieces that can interchange from starting or off the bench: (1) a floor spacing big (possibly Hartenstein) and (2) a stretch 4.

That way you can have Chet interchange between the 4 or 5, and still have size (pause) when he's on the bench.
i think you nailed it completely. this was a great move but this was almost the bare minimum obvious move that had to be made. i could still see them going backcourt wing in the draft if there is someone they really love that drops to them but the one thing they cant do is go into next season without at least one other starting quality big because theres no excuse not to do it with the cap space and assets they have. last offseason they at least had the excuse of not expecting to as good as they were this season. now its about giving yourself the best chance to win the title right now.
yall think okc gon go for it? they gotta consolidate these picks..
theyd have to give up a lot of for markannen, but they dont necessarily need to make that move though i personally would. they can add a big in the draft and via free agency without giving up any of their stockpile of draft capital and there are big options they can trade for that would make them significantly better without giving up likely more than one moderately protected 1st and a 2nd at the most.
 

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...that type of guy will just not get much run on a team trying to be competitive unless they are tanking. Maybe he works on those things because he is young but Bulls should have got more than a question mark. You are giving up the much better player, you should get more.

Bulls FO stinks though, they will probably have to give up LaVine for next to nothing too at this point, which is why you have to do well on trades like Caruso. It's bad asset management.
Bulls should use this trade as a way to pivot off of retaining DeMar. Reports already dropped that they are looking to buyout Lonzo. I don't see them blatantly tanking with their current set of guys, but reshaping and getting younger on the fly seems to be happening.

Sign and Trade DeMar
Keep Zach until the deadline

Giddey isn't trash, if the Bulls were trading with OKC I wanted it to involve Vuc tho

:francis:
 

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amongst players who played at least 50 games okc already had sga 12th, cason wallace 20th, aaron wiggins 22nd, and jalen williams 24th in deflections per 36 minutes. caruso was 2nd last year. thats 5 of the top 24. no other team in the league has more than 2 of the top 25. per game stats amongst qualifying players, okc now has 3 of the top 13 players last year in stocks, no other team in the league has more than 1 in the top 13. neither of those stats even include dort who narrowly missed 2nd team all defense.
 

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i think you nailed it completely. this was a great move but this was almost the bare minimum obvious move that had to be made. i could still see them going backcourt wing in the draft if there is someone they really love that drops to them but the one thing they cant do is go into next season without at least one other starting quality big because theres no excuse not to do it with the cap space and assets they have. last offseason they at least had the excuse of not expecting to as good as they were this season. now its about giving yourself the best chance to win the title right now.

theyd have to give up a lot of for markannen, but they dont necessarily need to make that move though i personally would. they can add a big in the draft and via free agency without giving up any of their stockpile of draft capital and there are big options they can trade for that would make them significantly better without giving up likely more than one moderately protected 1st and a 2nd at the most.

Abso-fukking-lutely on everything, especially the bolded. Yea, Danny Ainge gon Ainge but if cashing out on LM is even remotely possible, OKC should go for it.

He locks in their top 6 as best in the league or a close second, and any other needs for 7-12th man can be by committee (signing vets/draft/their current guys).

I guess part of it is how does the math math out with their contracts, like if they’d have a 3-4 year window of continuity before the costs skyrocket.
 

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like if they’d have a 3-4 year window of continuity before the costs skyrocket.
looking at it probably 2 before they have to decide to either trade someone or go into the luxury tax. if they make the lauri deal they'd have to resign him, caruso, isaiah joe and aaron wiggins if they choose after this season. they can probably do all of that without going into the luxury tax, but during the 2026 offseason holmgren and jalen williams will both be free agents so at that point probably best case scenario youre going into the luxury tax to resign them then the next offseason sga is a free agent again.

id go all in on lauri to try and win these next two years then you just have to make the decision on how far you want to go into the tax and if you dont you should be able to offload someone maybe jalen williams for picks and/or depth to keep costs down. it makes sense to make the big move now because that 2 year window is now open and really unless holmgren and jalen both ask for max deals they should be able to resign both of them for the 3rd year. during the offseason heading into that 4th year with sga as a free agent is likely when the costs would be too much for their owners.
 

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What the fukk are the Bulls thinking. They traded a solid 3 and D guy for a guy with no 3 and no D.:dame:. Make it make sense. OKC dumped a toxic player for a dawg. OKC gaffled the Bulls.
 

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Giddey is only 21 I don’t know why we’re all acting like he’s about to bounce out the league because he’s too set in his ways to develop and he’s already reached his peak lol
 

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Giddey is only 21 I don’t know why we’re all acting like he’s about to bounce out the league because he’s too set in his ways to develop and he’s already reached his peak lol
giddey is supposed to get paid soon

and they traded caruso because he had to get paid soon

like get some draft picks at least to even pretend you care about youth lol they got offered a lottery pick this same week ffs and all chicago wanted to do was kick cans down the road
 

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Giddey is such an erratic player. When’s he’s on he’s decent. When he’s off you gotta sit him. Too much hot dogging.

I’ve only seen a small sample of his games.
 

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Bulls should've dumped off everybody by the trade deadline but they have no idea what they're doing

they should have done this in early 2023 when demar was still under contract and caruso had 2 seasons left. they also could have moved drummond back then as well cuz he was on a minimum contract.
 
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