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Saudi Arabia forcibly detained Lebanon’s prime minister, sources say
Former Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri is being held by Saudi authorities under what Lebanese sources say amounts to house arrest in Riyadh, apparently as part of the Saudi campaign to squeeze Iran and its Lebanese ally, Hezbollah.

A startling account of Hariri’s forced detention was provided Friday by knowledgeable sources in Beirut. It offers important new evidence of the tactics used by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to bolster his rule by mobilizing anti-Iran sentiment at home and abroad.

Rumors of the virtual kidnapping of Hariri, who resigned as prime minister last Saturday while in Saudi Arabia, have rocked the Arab world; Lebanese officials worry that MBS, as the 32-year-old crown prince is known, wants to force Lebanon into his confrontation with Iran. Some Lebanese analysts complain that the Saudis treat the Hariri family, who have been bankrolled by Riyadh for decades, almost as a wholly owned subsidiary.

According to the well-informed Lebanese sources, the tale began on Monday, Oct. 30, when Hariri traveled to Saudi Arabia for a personal meeting with MBS. With the crown prince was Thamer al-Sabhan, his key adviser on relations with other Arab states.

The meeting seemed to go well, the Lebanese sources said, with talk of continued Saudi support for Lebanon, even though Hezbollah dominated the Hariri-led government.

Hariri returned to Lebanon on Nov. 1 and met with the Lebanese council of ministers to brief them on his conversations in Riyadh. Sources said he told the group that the Saudis would back plans for an international conference in Paris on the Lebanese economy, a Rome meeting to support the Lebanese army and a joint Saudi-Lebanese council to encourage investment. Hariri told his cabinet, including Hezbollah representatives, that Lebanon wouldn’t be a Saudi target, even though it was widely expected that MBS would be taking a tougher stance on Iran. Those reassurances proved wrong.

Hariri planned to return to Riyadh to meet with King Salman on Monday, Nov. 6. But the timetable was accelerated after Hariri received an urgent call from MBS’s protocol team asking him to see the crown prince on Friday, Nov. 3, and spend the weekend with him. The Friday meeting didn’t happen, and Hariri stayed that night at his lavish home on Al Takhassossi Boulevard in Riyadh.

What allegedly happened next is the scary part of the story. At about 8 a.m. Saturday, unusually early for the kingdom, Hariri was summoned to meet MBS. The trappings of protocol were gone; Hariri traveled in two cars with only his personal security. He was out of sight for several hours.

Hariri next appeared publicly on television, at about 2 p.m., reading a statement saying that he was resigning as prime minister because of Iranian threats on his life and Tehran’s export of “devastation and chaos.” Such belligerent language about Iran was uncharacteristic for Hariri, and none of his regular speechwriters were consulted about the speech.

Just before the broadcast, the Saudi state-owned al-Arabiya news network is said to have announced that Hariri would be resigning. As his apparently prerecorded speech was shown on television, Hariri called Lebanese President Michel Aoun and said he couldn’t continue in the job and would be returning to Beirut in a few days.

Hariri didn’t return to his Riyadh home until Monday, and reportedly stayed Saturday and Sunday nights in a villa on the compound of the Ritz-Carlton, where the prominent Saudis detained in Saturday night’s anti-corruption sweep are being held. Hariri met with King Salman on Monday, and then traveled to Abu Dhabi to meet with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed, who has been a mentor for MBS.

Back Tuesday at his residence, now carefully screened by Saudi military security, Hariri met over the next several days with diplomatic representatives of the United States, Russia and major European powers.

What do the Saudis want next? The Lebanese sources believe Hariri’s harder-line older brother Bahaa may be Riyadh’s candidate for prime minister. Other Hariri relatives were summoned to Riyadh last week but refused to go; it’s said that Bahaa was already there. The sources also say that Bahaa sent Safi Kalo, a close adviser, to meet secretly 10 days ago with Druze leader Walid Jumblatt to discuss future strategy for Lebanon, but Jumblatt is said to have left the meeting, refusing to discuss the subject.

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The Lebanese sources told me they are worried about maintaining internal stability. In recent years, Lebanon’s once-warring sects have been united in trying to sustain the country despite the conflict raging next door in Syria. This internal security, especially precious for Lebanese after nearly two decades of civil war, seems at risk now.

The Lebanese feel, once again, like a Middle East ping-pong ball. They want their prime minister back home.

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I don’t doubt Israel is scheming but it’s highly in their interest to stay neutral and show the Lebanese (who don’t support hezbollah) that there is a future with the possibility of peace

Israel instructs diplomats to support Saudis: Cable

Nazareth - Israel has instructed its overseas embassies to lobby their respective host countries in support of Saudi Arabia and its apparent efforts to destabilise Lebanon, a recently leaked diplomatic cable shows.

The cable appears to be the first formal confirmation of rumours that Israel and Saudi Arabia are colluding to stoke tensions in the region.

Sent by the Israeli foreign ministry and disclosed by Israel's Channel 10 news this week, the cable demanded that diplomats stress Iran and Hezbollah’s engagement in "regional subversion".

That closely echoes accusations Riyadh levelled against Tehran and the Lebanese faction in recent days.

Some analysts have noted that diplomatic moves by Israel to intervene directly in a seemingly internal Arab matter are "very rare".

The leaked cable instructed Israeli diplomats "to stress that the Hariri resignation shows how dangerous Iran and Hezbollah are for Lebanon's security".

The diplomats were told to appeal to the "highest officials" in their host countries to press for Hezbollah’s expulsion from the Lebanese government.

"Hariri's resignation proves wrong the argument that Hezbollah participation in the government stabilises Lebanon," the cable says.

It further called on Israeli diplomats to back Saudi Arabia in its war in Yemen, emphasising that the missile directed at Riyadh required "more pressure on Iran and Hezbollah".

Menachem Klein, a politics professor at Bar Ilan University, near Tel Aviv, said that it was likely Netanyahu expected and wanted the cable to go public.

"If you send a diplomatic cable and start lobbying every foreign capital, you have to expect that it won’t remain private for long," he told Al Jazeera.

"Netanyahu's aim was to make clear to the Saudis that he can help. The message is, 'We have special relations with Western countries and we can help you advance your political goals against Iran and Hezbollah, which we share'."

Israel instructs diplomats to support Saudis: Cable
 

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:heh:

You seen those pics of him trying to get into that Manhattan club?

:pachaha:

No I've just looked them up. He was :flabbynsick:...lol

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Excellent analysis, btw

Especially your point on Faisals takeover from Saud

I mean shyt, Fahd was damn near retarded for years with Abdullah running the country and they still left his ass on the throne for appearances sake

Yh. And this is despite them not liking each other for a long time...even when Abdulaziz was around. According to family folklore Abdulaziz made them swear on his deathbed that they would not fight. It was a classic Fredo/Michael situation with the incompetent older brother relying on seniority being opposed by the more efficient, cunning younger brother. Even after Saud bankrupted the Kingdom Faisal actually tried to convince him to stay on as a figure head while he ran the government and Saud replied ''You want to make me Queen Elizabeth :gucci:"


MBS cut from a different cloth lol. Plus all these dudes were brothers. I don't think there's any love lost between thousands of extended cousins all vying for the Iron Throne.
 
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No I've just looked them up. He was :flabbynsick:...lol



Yh. And this is despite them not liking each other for a long time...even when Abdulaziz was around. According to family folklore Abdulaziz made them swear on his deathbed that they would not fight. It was a classic Fredo/Michael situation with the incompetent older brother relying on seniority being opposed by the more efficient, cunning younger brother. Even after Saud bankrupted the Kingdom Faisal actually tried to convince him to stay on as a figure head while he ran the government and Saud replied ''You want to make me Queen Elizabeth :gucci:"


MBS cut from a different cloth lol. Plus all these dudes were brothers. I don't think there's any love lost between thousands of extended cousins all vying for the Iron Throne.

You're absolutely correct. The Dynamic among cousins is much different than brothers. These guys probably grew up competitive as fukk. It's not like they were cousins going to the same school, squabbling against the other neighbourhood kids

On a side note :salute: to Malik Faisal, the last G the Sauds produced

Unless MBS succeeds
 

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I'm surprised he wasn't the first name. Snake ass mother fukker that he is.

He must hold a lot of weight because every couple years you hear he's arrested or has been purged and then he's suddenly the head of some ministry or another.

Hell a few years back there were rumors he was assassinated.
 

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Hezbollah sounds shook


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I wouldn't say they are shook. They are pretty much spot on on whats going on. Saudi Arabia is pushing Israel to wage a preemptive war against Hezbollah. However Israel isn't likely to do this because the last two Lebanese wars were quagmires for Israel. This is all Saudi frustration with their many failures in the region led by MBS.

Saudi will likely try pressure the Lebanese political parties to give up on Hezbollah with financial threats and political isolation, but this will hardly weaken Hezbollah, whether politically or militarily. The Saudis have been defeated by Iran in every Middle Eastern theatre, and these kind of dramatic rhetoric and actions represent nothing but utter frustration on the side of the Saudis.

The real battle for Muhammad bin Salman is currently against his own cousins. The result of this war will define Saudi as a state in the coming decades. Iran is nothing more than a scapegoat to take the spotlights away from that.
 
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