breaking: nikki haley doesn't want to say slavery caused the civil war. BOTHSIDES

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The Covid emergency benefits were not bad. Biden could have continued them, which would have greatly helped his approval ratings. He chose to let them lapse. As he has said publicly, he has no empathy for anyone young (under 60 to him) and struggling.



This is amazing. Half of the "both sides" crew blame Biden for the stimulus causing inflation, and the other half thinks Biden should have kept it going long after Covid was over even though Biden didn't have even close to the votes in the Senate for that.
 

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Slavery was never sustainable even at its surface… The industrialization yielded more profits with less labor.. slavery wasn’t sustainable morally or economically.. South wanted to hold on to that shyt
The South could have held onto slavery. The North was not contesting that. The problem was the Dred Scott decision that held the Missouri compromise to be valid. That decision basically opened the door for slavery to be expanded into the new Western territories that the USA has won in Mexican American War.
 

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This is amazing. Half of the "both sides" crew blame Biden for the stimulus causing inflation, and the other half thinks Biden should have kept it going long after Covid was over even though Biden didn't have even close to the votes in the Senate for that.
they could have printed the same amount of money, and put much more of it directly in voters' hands, as opposed to being stolen and looted by government bureaucrats

the fact that they wrote the biden bill for 1.9 trillion, just so they could say it was under 2 trillion :mjlol:
 

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This is amazing. Half of the "both sides" crew blame Biden for the stimulus causing inflation, and the other half thinks Biden should have kept it going long after Covid was over even though Biden didn't have even close to the votes in the Senate for that.
A house divided cannot stand. The BothSides Crew beefs among itself. The center cannot hold. And there is plenty of blame to go around.......


On Both Sides. :wow:




Anyway, I don't remember seeing anybody here blame Biden for Trump's insane money-printing to prop up the stock market, I don't think too many people here have conflated that action with the assistance that was offered to the public shortly thereafter, I guess I need to remind you Covid is not over, and once again I really have to ask you..... Do you sincerely believe that Joe Biden, a fifty fukking year denizen of the halls of American power, is unable to whip votes? From his own party and from his friends across the aisle that he always speaks highly of?

fukking liberals, man.
 

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they could have printed the same amount of money, and put much more of it directly in voters' hands, as opposed to being stolen and looted by government bureaucrats

the fact that they wrote the biden bill for 1.9 trillion, just so they could say it was under 2 trillion :mjlol:

how long have you been an advocate for the government putting cash directly in peoples hands?
 

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Did slavery cause the Civil War?

I didn't read too much into it, but I thought Lincoln just wanted to let his nuts hang over the south? Lincoln even had slaves himself.

Why do you post this lying right-wing nonsense? :wtf:

Lincoln was anti-slavery his entire life and definitely never owned slaves. :mjlol:



1. Lincoln's parents were abolitionists (anti-slavery activists) in Kentucky.

2. They left Kentucky when Lincoln was a child because they couldn't stand living amongst slaveowners.

3. Lincoln obviously couldn't have own slaves cause his entire adult life was in Illinois, a free state.

4. There are personal letters on the record between Lincoln and his friends, from before he even entered politics, talking about how much he abhorred slavery.

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong," he stated. "I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel."


5. Lincoln co-founded the Republican Party on an anti-slavery platform.

6. During the election, Lincoln ran on a promise to refuse to allow the expansion of slavery to new states. That was literally the biggest political issue of the age and a low-key war was already being fought over it, look up "Bloody Kansas".

7. Lincoln had to repeatedly assure voters that he wouldn't forcibly ban slavery in the South against their will (because he didn't believe it was legally possible anyway).

8. When he got elected, the South immediately seceded anyway because of his anti-slavery position.

9. One of his first legislative acts was to ban slavery in Washington DC.

10. At times he offered deals to the South that would allow them to come back into the Union and more gradually end slavery, because ending the war quickly was a more important goal to him than ending slavery immediately. But he never compromised the position that slavery had to end at some point.

11. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation and freed slaves in the South because it was a military necessity AND because he wanted to do it. He says himself that the fact that it was a military necessity is what finally have him the legal justification to do it.

12. Lincoln fought harder for the 13th Amendment, banning slavery everywhere in the States forever, than any president had ever fought for legislation. He threatened congressmen, he bribed congressmen, he called in every favor he had, he employed months-long pressure campaigns on specific individuals, he have away cushy lifelong appointments to congressmen solely on the basis of them voting for this one bill. The 13th Amendment passed because Lincoln MADE it pass.

13. In one of the final speeches of his life, Lincoln declared that Black men didn't just deserve freedom, but the vote too. Remember, not even White women could vote back then and wouldn't get it for another 50 years. That was the moment John Wilkes Booth decided to kill Lincoln, because he couldn't stand to see Black people get the vote.




Lincoln wasn't some angel. Like nearly all white men of his era, he still had some racist views (it's not like he had ever seen what Black people were capable of from an equal footing), and real anti-racism movements didn't exist until about 1910. And ending slavery immediately was not his #1 priority. He would rather avoid war than end slavery immediately, but he also would rather accept war than allow slavery to expand. But to deny that he was against slavery is ridiculous neo-confederate propaganda.
 

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Why do you post this lying right-wing nonsense? :wtf:

Lincoln was anti-slavery his entire life and definitely never owned slaves. :mjlol:



1. Lincoln's parents were abolitionists (anti-slavery activists) in Kentucky.

2. They left Kentucky when Lincoln was a child because they couldn't stand living amongst slaveowners.

3. Lincoln obviously couldn't have own slaves cause his entire adult life was in Illinois, a free state.

4. There are personal letters on the record between Lincoln and his friends, from before he even entered politics, talking about how much he abhorred slavery.

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong," he stated. "I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel."


5. Lincoln co-founded the Republican Party on an anti-slavery platform.

6. During the election, Lincoln ran on a promise to refuse to allow the expansion of slavery to new states. That was literally the biggest political issue of the age and a low-key war was already being fought over it, look up "Bloody Kansas".

7. Lincoln had to repeatedly assure voters that he wouldn't forcibly ban slavery in the South against their will (because he didn't believe it was legally possible anyway).

8. When he got elected, the South immediately seceded anyway because of his anti-slavery position.

9. One of his first legislative acts was to ban slavery in Washington DC.

10. At times he offered deals to the South that would allow them to come back into the Union and more gradually end slavery, because ending the war quickly was a more important goal to him than ending slavery immediately. But he never compromised the position that slavery had to end at some point.

11. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation and freed slaves in the South because it was a military necessity AND because he wanted to do it. He says himself that the fact that it was a military necessity is what finally have him the legal justification to do it.

12. Lincoln fought harder for the 13th Amendment, banning slavery everywhere in the States forever, than any president had ever fought for legislation. He threatened congressmen, he bribed congressmen, he called in every favor he had, he employed months-long pressure campaigns on specific individuals, he have away cushy lifelong appointments to congressmen solely on the basis of them voting for this one bill. The 13th Amendment passed because Lincoln MADE it pass.

13. In one of the final speeches of his life, Lincoln declared that Black men didn't just deserve freedom, but the vote too. Remember, not even White women could vote back then and wouldn't get it for another 50 years. That was the moment John Wilkes Booth decided to kill Lincoln, because he couldn't stand to see Black people get the vote.




Lincoln wasn't some angel. Like nearly all white men of his era, he still had some racist views (it's not like he had ever seen what Black people were capable of from an equal footing), and real anti-racism movements didn't exist until about 1910. And ending slavery immediately was not his #1 priority. He would rather avoid war than end slavery immediately, but he also would rather accept war than allow slavery to expand. But to deny that he was against slavery is ridiculous neo-confederate propaganda.


My bad that was George Washington
 

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how long have you been an advocate for the government putting cash directly in peoples hands?
since the government shuts down the economy for a disease with a 99 percent survival rate if you're under 75. but you seem to have missed the blatant "if" that the post hinged on
 

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they could have printed the same amount of money, and put much more of it directly in voters' hands, as opposed to being stolen and looted by government bureaucrats


I didn't know you were a big direct payments fan. But what money specifically do you believe shouldn't have been given? We might have agreement here, but I can't tell because you're so vague.

Just say specifically which money you were against.
 

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A house divided cannot stand. The BothSides Crew beefs among itself. The center cannot hold. And there is plenty of blame to go around.......


On Both Sides. :wow:


Anyway, I don't remember seeing anybody here blame Biden for Trump's insane money-printing to prop up the stock market, I don't think too many people here have conflated that action with the assistance that was offered to the public shortly thereafter,

Off the top of my head, "It's Young!", "The Cac Mamba", and "that guy" were both big on blaming the "Biden stimulus" for inflation.




I guess I need to remind you Covid is not over, and once again I really have to ask you..... Do you sincerely believe that Joe Biden, a fifty fukking year denizen of the halls of American power, is unable to whip votes? From his own party and from his friends across the aisle that he always speaks highly of?

fukking liberals, man.

Yes, I think Biden is unable to "whip votes" from across the aisle and that Kyrsten Sinema idiot. And I believe he's only able to move Joe Manchin a little. Unfortunately, most major policies depend on those two.
 

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If Black Americans weren't so susceptible to Media manipulation via Celebrities, and the Democrat ideology of 'family/social norms.'
I'd have no issue with "voting blue, no matter who" or whatever they say.
The main problem that Black people have with Dems is they have reshaped our culture to the point it is no longer recognizable. Our dignity and esteem largely built from the 1870s days of Hiram Revels to the late 1960-70s of MLK has been all but replaced by degeneracy and desolation.
We despised this. :birdman:

Unfortunately, I have no idea on how to put the genie back in the bottle. :beli:
billy-madison-dumber.gif
 

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Indian culture is anti Black skin..she's a pale Indian passing as White. She's absolutely disgusting.
 

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Off the top of my head, "It's Young!", "The Cac Mamba", and "that guy" were both big on blaming the "Biden stimulus" for inflation.
:russell: lies. i blame the 3 covid bills for inflation, trump signed 2 of them. and the analysis shows that a ton of that 6 trillion dollars was looted and stolen
 
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