Breaking:Female passenger killed after being set on fire on an NYC subway train

[Mr. Jack Napier]

meanwhile the governor tweeting about subway safety thru these incidents. embarassing

But, but, but the numbers show this is only a 0.003% chance of this happening...

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Let me throw in my opinion on something, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned,

I've been saying for years that NYC needs to crack down on people jumping the turnstiles, this is how a lot of the problems (crime) start in the subway system, people that don't belong on trains being on trains. From homeless people, to drifters, panhandlers, to kids acting a fool on the subways, non-paying riders causing all types of chaos amongst those paying customers who do belong on the trains and are simply trying to get from point A to point B.

Now, is this going to prevent 100% of the subway crimes? No. Will it help in reducing it? As a rider for 30 years, I certainly believe so.

I have a feeling that this animal who burned this lady had no business being on the train.

I've seen it with my own two eyes several times, someone jumps the turnstiles and cops are less than 20 feet away and do nothing. I saw a woman one time walk up to an officer and pointed someone going through the doors without paying, and the officer just gave her the Stephen A. Smith smiley face.

I know two police officers, and I've asked them this question, why don't y'all do anything against these people on the train? Why don't y'all arrest homeless people on the trains or take them into a shelter or something? And both told me without hesitation, "yeah we ain't trying to bring someone in like that, do all that paperwork and have a bum at the station with all their garbage that they drag around with them, then they get released within 48 hours, other cops be looking down on you and calling you out for bringing in 'trash'..." their words verbatim.

It seems like no one in NYC ever wants to have this conversation, cracking down on this on at the turnstiles should be a priority but it's just not. The only time I ever remember seeing any news outlet talking about this was NY1 News way back in like 2004, and it was a quick 3-5 minute segment.

It needs to be a two-pronged approach though. Yes, most people who are set out to commit acts of violence aren't concerned with paying a fare, so yes, station police near turnstiles.

However, we need to officers to actually be on the trains when the trains are in motion, not just on the damn entrance. There's about 400 trains in circulation at any one time. We have over 32,000 officers. We can assign 200 of them to monitor 400 trains? or even 100?

 

[HoldThisL]

This era has the worst Subway crime since ‘97.

That’s a long time ago. New Yorkers feel that and stats don’t change that.

There is shyt that isn’t reported. It can go down any time. I haven’t been assaulted but I’ve had close call situations from some dikkhead acting like wanted to get it on to a gun being pulled on the train and everyone rushing one side of the cart. U dead ass have to be careful to not step on used needles at certain stations. I don’t even take the train like that so I can imagine what daily riders can see any given day.

Is it really the worst era for Subway crime since '97 or is it that more crimes are just being reported now than in every other year?


I feel like the subway is shyt right now but on the other end this era is the safest I ever felt on the train. I have seen some shyt in my years and I can honestly say it has gotten better since the early 2000s .

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

These sort of people should be the property of the state and subjected to hard labor and physical experimentation, among other uses. They're never going to be useful members of society so their lives should be forfeit to the authorities. Some of the mentally ill could live quietly on humane estates away from general society and others like this human compost could become human cattle along with general criminals such as pedophiles, rapists, child murderers and corrupt politicians and corporate elites. These aren't your 90s era musty, but ultimately harmless, homeless/transient/vagabond; this is a new breed that must not be allowed to proliferate or this will be the result.

RIP to that woman.

And by the way, if it's an illegal.....well you know they may as well be stateless and their rights be stripped. Then we could do ANYTHING with those sort of criminals.

 

[voiture]

How hard is it to clean the subway from homeless people and put them somewhere else?

 

[Bar Razor]

U don't know what ur talking about.

Excellent rebuttal. Mind = changed. Good work.

 

[voiture]

This bullshyt keeps up and democrats will be wiped out in state wide elections.
The illegal immigration thing must be kept under control.

 

[benjamin]

Looks like another skinny Negro by that pic...

 

[get these nets]

Let me throw in my opinion on something, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned,

I've been saying for years that NYC needs to crack down on people jumping the turnstiles, this is how a lot of the problems (crime) start in the subway system, people that don't belong on trains being on trains. From homeless people, to drifters, panhandlers, to kids acting a fool on the subways, non-paying riders causing all types of chaos amongst those paying customers who do belong on the trains and are simply trying to get from point A to point B.

Now, is this going to prevent 100% of the subway crimes? No. Will it help in reducing it? As a rider for 30 years, I certainly believe so.

I have a feeling that this animal who burned this lady had no business being on the train.

I've seen it with my own two eyes several times, someone jumps the turnstiles and cops are less than 20 feet away and do nothing. I saw a woman one time walk up to an officer and pointed someone going through the doors without paying, and the officer just gave her the Stephen A. Smith smiley face.

I know two police officers, and I've asked them this question, why don't y'all do anything against these people on the train? Why don't y'all arrest homeless people on the trains or take them into a shelter or something? And both told me without hesitation, "yeah we ain't trying to bring someone in like that, do all that paperwork and have a bum at the station with all their garbage that they drag around with them, then they get released within 48 hours, other cops be looking down on you and calling you out for bringing in 'trash'..." their words verbatim.

It seems like no one in NYC ever wants to have this conversation, cracking down on this on at the turnstiles should be a priority but it's just not. The only time I ever remember seeing any news outlet talking about this was NY1 News way back in like 2004, and it was a quick 3-5 minute segment.

Agree

And every once in a while they do a sweep or a targeted operation at a hotspot location.
.I think I posted a news segment about such an operation in the thread about the National Guard being brought in to screen bags/backpacks in MTA.

They ran names, issued summons to 1st time offenders, and caught people with warrants and arrested them.

They should do random things like that regularly, because people looking for trouble on subways are not going to carry around metrocards that track their movements.

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

It needs to be a two-pronged approach though. Yes, most people who are set out to commit acts of violence aren't concerned with paying a fare, so yes, station police near turnstiles.

However, we need to officers to actually be on the trains when the trains are in motion, not just on the damn entrance. There's about 400 trains in circulation at any one time. We have over 32,000 officers. We can assign 200 of them to monitor 400 trains? or even 100?

My criticism of the NYPD has always been that they simply do nothing when they see red flags on the subway. I've seen officers on the train and a homeless person sleeping on the seats, and the officers just keep it moving like they don't see anything. Take that person off the train, escort them to a shelter or down to the station, whatever the protocol is, but get them OFF the train. This sh*t is beyond frustrating.

For all the money the city has spent on ad campaigns talking about, "If you see something, say something" the police officers have taken the opposite approach, they see sh*t and don't do sh*t about it.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

This bullshyt keeps up and democrats will be wiped out in state wide elections.
The illegal immigration thing must be kept under control.

The Dems would rather lose elections than stop caping for illegals.

 

[Illuminatos]

Just saw the second zoomed in camera angle. This is fukking disgusting man.

 

[Illuminatos]

Let me throw in my opinion on something, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned,

I've been saying for years that NYC needs to crack down on people jumping the turnstiles, this is how a lot of the problems (crime) start in the subway system, people that don't belong on trains being on trains. From homeless people, to drifters, panhandlers, to kids acting a fool on the subways, non-paying riders causing all types of chaos amongst those paying customers who do belong on the trains and are simply trying to get from point A to point B.

Now, is this going to prevent 100% of the subway crimes? No. Will it help in reducing it? As a rider for 30 years, I certainly believe so.

I have a feeling that this animal who burned this lady had no business being on the train.

I've seen it with my own two eyes several times, someone jumps the turnstiles and cops are less than 20 feet away and do nothing. I saw a woman one time walk up to an officer and pointed someone going through the doors without paying, and the officer just gave her the Stephen A. Smith smiley face.

I know two police officers, and I've asked them this question, why don't y'all do anything against these people on the train? Why don't y'all arrest homeless people on the trains or take them into a shelter or something? And both told me without hesitation, "yeah we ain't trying to bring someone in like that, do all that paperwork and have a bum at the station with all their garbage that they drag around with them, then they get released within 48 hours, other cops be looking down on you and calling you out for bringing in 'trash'..." their words verbatim.

It seems like no one in NYC ever wants to have this conversation, cracking down on this on at the turnstiles should be a priority but it's just not. The only time I ever remember seeing any news outlet talking about this was NY1 News way back in like 2004, and it was a quick 3-5 minute segment.

I was coming home on the 2 train one morning (around 3-4 AM) and it was nothing but homeless people on it. When I hit the last stop at Flatbush Ave I was the only one to get off on my cart, everyone else was either sitting or laying down sleeping. On one hand I feel bad and on the other hand I’m like .

 

[ViShawn]

The crazy part is the woman just stood there burning, while people watched and filmed. No stop drop and roroll.

Her body was probably in shock. The more startling thing was people were just watching.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Exo you’re entertaining the idea that a subway that literally handles millions of commutes daily is somehow Afghanistan? You and @ISO nees to stop the hyperbole. Everyone has an NYC subway story and the vast majority of people won’t face a thing on the daily. Now, there are some subway lines that are a little sketchier than others - especially at night and for women - which is like walking down the equivalent of the same sort of street.

But the idea that it’s Afghanistan is some shyt that’s just going to lead to even more policemen in the Subway not doing shyt and getting paid for it. Dudes be on their cell phones getting OT with no semblance of crime in sight besides someone trying to jump the subway.

Someone either pushed or was pushed at the subway station down the street from my crib

Y'all gonna learn. The hard way.