Breaking Bad Plotholes

[The Devil's Advocate]

Breh your time line is off.

By episode 3 Hank already suspects whoever the "new player" is killed the DEA's snitches.

So we're not talking about just a chemist. We're talking about a murderer.

This guy is a killer.

"Hey Walt did you cook this meth"....aight cool. If you want to cite First 48 I could see them questioning everybody, off GP.

"Hey Walt are you cooking meth and in the streets killing snitches"....

The leap in logic is too far.

Also keep in mind an episode later Hank finds out Walt has cancer. An ep after that they do the "talking pillow" scene where Walt can barely keep from crying.



So you're basically saying Hank is supposed to piece together that Walt is a murderous drug dealer when, from Hank's perspective, he's the frailest he's ever been. Both emotionally and physically.

Fred.

are you listening

QUESTION HIM... HE NEVER EVEN QUESTIONS 1 OF 4 PEOPLE WITH ACCESS


so the chemistry teacher can't be a hard core killer... but the fukking janitor with weed in his car can




i mean it's not some plot breaking point... but just stop... walt would have been questioned like everyone else... this the damn dea


the LEAST they could have done is have him jokingly ask or have the spanish dude say "maybe your brother in law" and then hank laugh it off... not just NEVER ask nothing


"hey this came from _____ school... that's where my brother teaches"

"wasn't he the one who came on the ride along... could he be in on this"

"nah he's a nerd breh.. plus he got cancer"

"well that sounds like a reason"

"nah trust me.... it ain't him"

"ok breh"

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It's not a plot hole. But how stupid was skylar to think she could get cash back for that tiara with no fukking receipt?

If nikkas could just rob you, then get full returns with no receipts, there wouldn't be a need for pawn shops

 

[Food Mane]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

 

[Disgustya Stallone]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

not as great as your Mad Men ending analysis but

 

[boskey]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

This is why I believed Norm MacDonald's theory about the finale being all a dream. Even tho everyone denied it, it just makes so much more sense that way...

Was The "Breaking Bad" Finale All Just A Fantasy In Walter White's Head?

 

[Food Mane]

not as great as your Mad Men ending analysis but

Thanks, dogg.

 

[Food Mane]

This is why I believed Norm MacDonald's theory about the finale being all a dream. Even tho everyone denied it, it just makes so much more sense that way...

Was The "Breaking Bad" Finale All Just A Fantasy In Walter White's Head?

It's interesting to me that he thinks that the fantasy starts after a middle-aged cancer patient has won a war against a cartel boss, destroyed evidence with a giant magnet and robbed a train.

 

[Juven]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

its a tv show so you gotta use your imagination. It'd be boring if it was realistic. I used to care about all the details but at the end of the day i just want to be entertained.

 

[FTBS]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

I agree. I love the show, but for me the ending was too cliche and convenient for a show that was all about not being those things. Your ending would would have really made a lot of those things that you mentioned make perfect sense, along with other stuff like hardened drug dealers bowing before him, all types of exertion with lung cancer, his family being taken care of, and getting revenge on all of his enemies before dying is his beloved lab.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Part of me thinks the show should have ended with Walt waking up from a dream of snapping out of a day dream right after he gets told he has cancer. A lot of things that happen seem like a fantasy for a middle-aged, weak man with no real understanding of the underworld. Nazis, giant magnets, cartels, gentleman crime bosses, train robberies, poison.

It feels like a man who was raised on golden and silver comics fantasy about the last year of his life.

That's a plausible analysis, but its better left as a theory than actually saying "this is what happened." The whole "it was all a dream" ending is probably the most overdone and trite twist ending of all time and actually doing that on the show would've pretty much ruined the whole thing. This way its left open to interpretation without making the past 5 years feel like a pointless cheat.

 

[hex]

are you listening

QUESTION HIM... HE NEVER EVEN QUESTIONS 1 OF 4 PEOPLE WITH ACCESS


so the chemistry teacher can't be a hard core killer... but the fukking janitor with weed in his car can




i mean it's not some plot breaking point... but just stop... walt would have been questioned like everyone else... this the damn dea


the LEAST they could have done is have him jokingly ask or have the spanish dude say "maybe your brother in law" and then hank laugh it off... not just NEVER ask nothing


"hey this came from _____ school... that's where my brother teaches"

"wasn't he the one who came on the ride along... could he be in on this"

"nah he's a nerd breh.. plus he got cancer"

"well that sounds like a reason"

"nah trust me.... it ain't him"

"ok breh"

Breh your original post got several facts wrong.

Walt wasn't "1 of 4" people with access to the lab equipment. The exact quote was:

The science faculty, the staff, Carmen, the vice principal has the master, and me.

So that's potentially a dozen people, if not more. You're saying they should've questioned Walt, when Hank questioned NONE of those people.

The sole reason he targeted the janitor is because he had a criminal record.

Now, if you want to argue that's lazy police work but there was never some big ass orchestrated investigation. Hank said "he fit the profile" in relation to the janitor. They never even questioned him.

Lastly, you keep saying "it's the DEA!"....aight cool but the DEA as an organization didn't give a fukk about catching Heisenberg. It was so low priority for them they completely derailed Hank's investigation and sent him to Mexico. The first time they took Hank seriously is when he got shot and blue meth started popping up all over the surrounding states. Prior to that he was McNulty status.

Fred.

 

[hex]

This is why I believed Norm MacDonald's theory about the finale being all a dream. Even tho everyone denied it, it just makes so much more sense that way...

Was The "Breaking Bad" Finale All Just A Fantasy In Walter White's Head?

It's interesting to me that he thinks that the fantasy starts after a middle-aged cancer patient has won a war against a cartel boss, destroyed evidence with a giant magnet and robbed a train.

I always thought the Norm McDonald shyt was silly. It reminded me of this Grant Morrison rant at people trying to shoehorn reality into fiction:

Grant Morrison: Psychedelic Superhero

Kids understand that real crabs don’t sing like the ones in The Little Mermaid. But you give an adult fiction, and the adult starts asking really fukking dumb questions like “How does Superman fly? How do those eyebeams work? Who pumps the Batmobile’s tires?” It’s a fukking made-up story, you idiot! Nobody pumps the tires!

I have to agree, and this seems to be a relatively recent trend. Nobody back in the day was like "'Macbeth' would be 100x better if the witches never showed up".

Fred.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

I always thought the Norm McDonald shyt was silly. It reminded me of this Grant Morrison rant at people trying to shoehorn reality into fiction:

Grant Morrison: Psychedelic Superhero



I have to agree, and this seems to be a relatively recent trend. Nobody back in the day was like "'Macbeth' would be 100x better if the witches never showed up".

Fred.

and nobody today is saying "'Game of Thrones' would be 100x better if Danaerys never birthed dragons"


It's the logical fallacies within a fictitious world that irks some (myself included) especially when they're only used to shield certain characters or advance certain plots.

 

[hex]

and nobody today is saying "'Game of Thrones' would be 100x better if Danaerys never birthed dragons"


It's the logical fallacies within a fictitious world that irks some (myself included) especially when they're only used to shield certain characters or advance certain plots.

These aren't problems for people who actually write fiction for a living. They understand exactly what the show was going for.

Everyone from David Milch to David Simon has praised "Breaking Bad". Everyone from Rian Johnson to Guillermo Del Toro.

It's directly influenced the next generation of prestige dramas, from "Fargo" to "Mr. Robot".

Speaking of "Game Of Thrones", those writers think "BB" is the GOAT.

So I'm kinda confused why the complaints would hold weight, beyond "I'd prefer if 'BB' was more realistic". Because that's all you can say really. There is no objective way you can argue "BB" is inferior due to lack of realism.

fukk what I'm talking about....the writers of your favorite shows wouldn't even agree with you.

Fred.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

These aren't problems for people who actually write fiction for a living. They understand exactly what the show was going for.

Everyone from David Milch to David Simon has praised "Breaking Bad". Everyone from Rian Johnson to Guillermo Del Toro.

It's directly influenced the next generation of prestige dramas, from "Fargo" to "Mr. Robot".

Speaking of "Game Of Thrones", those writers think "BB" is the GOAT.

So I'm kinda confused why the complaints would hold weight, beyond "I'd prefer if 'BB' was more realistic". Because that's all you can say really. There is no objective way you can argue "BB" is inferior due to lack of realism.

fukk what I'm talking about....the writers of your favorite shows wouldn't even agree with you.

Fred.

but they aren't complaints... reminds me of hip hop with "hating" anytime somebody raises a concern, it's automatically a complaint.. no it isn't

i wouldn't be watching the same 6 seasons from scratch if it was a complaint... i wouldn't be paying that much attention to even point stuff out

people have discussions on nonsense parts of movies/tv shows/etc all the time. doesn't make it any less than. nobody is perfect.. nothing is perfect.. and having a little fun pointing out minor shyt that makes you say "oh hell nah.. they tripping with this part" is a little funny



yes it's an amazing show... but as someone who worked in air traffic control, i know good and damn well those planes would never have hit each other.... but it advanced the story and made for a lot of underlying things as the show went on... so they made good tv out of it... doesn't change the fact it was total bullshyt, fiction or not.. and it's ok to discuss it and poke a little fun at it


you gotta lighten up breh



but yes you were right about the staff part... and hank did go back to the school and have that big ass staff meeting