Brazil’s 2018 Election: Bolsonaro defeats Haddad to become President of Brazil

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we returning to Reagan era meddling in Latin America?:hhh: We were talking to some coup members in Venezuela too right?
right wingers are rapidly gaining ground all through south america. the US is happy to oblige of course. it could be a very ugly situation in like five years if this guys still in power
 

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I wanted to make a both sides joke in relation to the armored carriers being sent but the situation is too grim.
 

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i mean damn things aren't that bad out there. people are being seduced by these evangelicac right wingers because they want to be seduced by them.

that's why i always hated kaka.
 

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I don’t live in Brazil but I can understand why he’s popular. It’s very easy for those of us who live in comfort in the west to scorn but they live in a country where violence and crime is extreme, corruption is a way of life and inequality is even worse than the west. Coupled that with massive poverty etc and you can see why even those that may not like him will vote for anyone that promises something radically different than the norm.

Let him come in and if he fails to change anything, which I expect he will, at least his politics will no longer seem attractive anymore.


The problem is that they don’t move on. If they succeed then they think they should continue forever and if they fail they blame others and keep power.


Like i get why militarism is attractive. People associate the military with order and merit.
 

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The reason Bolsonaro is so popular is the huge elephant in the room that politicians fail to speak about: the country isengulfed in a multifactional drug war, murder rate is one of the highest in the globe and only 10% of crimes are investigated.

I mean, if you look to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, safety is right on the top, alongside food, shelter, and water. If you don't feel safe, it's completely normal to overlook everything else. Plus the economy is in a severe recession. Add all of this plus it explains why there is massive support for Bolsonaro.
 

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The reason Bolsonaro is so popular is the huge elephant in the room that politicians fail to speak about: the country isengulfed in a multifactional drug war, murder rate is one of the highest in the globe and only 10% of crimes are investigated.

I mean, if you look to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, safety is right on the top, alongside food, shelter, and water. If you don't feel safe, it's completely normal to overlook everything else. Plus the economy is in a severe recession. Add all of this plus it explains why there is massive support for Bolsonaro.

This is true, but I wouldn't argue the crime isn't an elephant in the room in Brazil--everyone talks about how bad it is down there. The big reason Bolsonaro won is that every other non-PT party was delegitimatized and shown as corrupt by the Lava Jato investigation. In a normal election, other parties like the PSDB would have taken over from the PT but given the corruption of Michel Temer and others, the whole establishment is tainted and makes any alternative look better.

Also, not the crime and violence hits poor and Blacks most and they, especially in the Northeast, were least likely to vote for Bolsonaro. The sad fact is most of the 60k murders are poor Black kids in favela gangs. Of course there are many robberies, carjackings, shootings, arrastãoes (mass robberies of groups or buildings by gangs), etc. but the places in the Southeast and central Brazil going for Bolsonaro aren't the worst hit areas. The crime is awful but the fear, and the prejudice it gins ups, is what motivates.
 

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This is true, but I wouldn't argue the crime isn't an elephant in the room in Brazil--everyone talks about how bad it is down there. The big reason Bolsonaro won is that every other non-PT party was delegitimatized and shown as corrupt by the Lava Jato investigation. In a normal election, other parties like the PSDB would have taken over from the PT but given the corruption of Michel Temer and others, the whole establishment is tainted and makes any alternative look better.

Also, not the crime and violence hits poor and Blacks most and they, especially in the Northeast, were least likely to vote for Bolsonaro. The sad fact is most of the 60k murders are poor Black kids in favela gangs. Of course there are many robberies, carjackings, shootings, arrastãoes (mass robberies of groups or buildings by gangs), etc. but the places in the Southeast and central Brazil going for Bolsonaro aren't the worst hit areas. The crime is awful but the fear, and the prejudice it gins ups, is what motivates.

exactly
 
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