Brand Nubians Lord Jamar: Kanye's Skirt Has No Place in Hip-Hop

[mobbinfms]

Not only dressing like biitches, but actually wearing womens clothes.........


And folks are acting like Jamar is wrong for speaking about it?


Can't wait to see the next generation 20 yrs from now. Dudes just gonna be blatantly sucking ea others diicks in the "straight" clubs and when you complain they gonna say "you're out of touch"

So wearing women's clothes will transform every straight dude gay? Then you would fall into that category as well if you started rocking women's clothes - your sexual orientation would switch up overnight? That's a universal truth - is that your argument?

 

[mobbinfms]

Jamar just bodied this track

[ame=http://youtu.be/u4kt_d7vfuc]KMD Nitty Gritty ft Brand Nubian - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Firefly]

So wearing women's clothes will transform every straight dude gay? Then you would fall into that category as well if you started rocking women's clothes - your sexual orientation would switch up overnight? That's a universal truth - is that your argument?

100% of men who wear women's clothes are gay friend. Let's not parse words. It's called cross-dressing. Google and look it up and do some research.

If they wearing women's clothes to begin with they pretty much screaming to get out the closet and be free. The switch happened before they started wearing the clothes breh.

 

[surv2syn]

Couldn't dudes back in the 80s just buy pants a few sizes bigger if they wanted them baggy?

Let's not front like fitted clothing wasn't in style back then.

no. because if you were a 32W, you would look like a damn fool wearing 2 sizes up in straight leg. fitted yes...tight...no. we was clownin yo ass if you had on some nuthuggers or your ass fit tighter in some jeans than the next chick. not cool.

I was on the basketball team, and you wore what uniform they gave you in the 80's and its not like we as individuals had the money to buy new bball uniforms that matched everyone else and the school I went to didnt have money like that either. Economics plays a part in this as well.

 

[surv2syn]

What I take issue with is the argument that straight dudes are going to see Kanye wearing a skirt and transform overnight and become gay. Or if straight dudes wear effeminate fashion that is going to turn them gay. That is completely unsubstantiated opinion and stems from homophobia.

I dont know how old you are or your background...but its like someone said here....you need to study. Nothing happens overnight but its the perpetuation and planting of the seed that influences. Be it voluntary or involuntary. Whether the subjects are willing or unsuspecting/unaware.

I also take issue with the homophobia. There isn't anything inherently wrong with homosexuality. Do you disagree with that? If you do - how does other people being attracted to the same sex harm Wacky D?

Him disagreeing has nothing to do with whether something harms him directly or indirectly....but at the same time it could have everything to do with it. I just hate the use of the word homophobia being thrown around. Just look at how many times you have used the word in this thread. Its a verbal assault at trying force someone to believe or admit that there is something psychologically wrong with them just because they dont agree with a particular stance. Its a play (actually a war) on words.

 

[Real N Quotes]

I dont know how old you are or your background...but its like someone said here....you need to study. Nothing happens overnight but its the perpetuation and planting of the seed that influences. Be it voluntary or involuntary. Whether the subjects are willing or unsuspecting/unaware.



Him disagreeing has nothing to do with whether something harms him directly or indirectly....but at the same time it could have everything to do with it. I just hate the use of the word homophobia being thrown around. Just look at how many times you have used the word in this thread. Its a verbal assault at trying force someone to believe or admit that there is something psychologically wrong with them just because they dont agree with a particular stance. Its a play (actually a war) on words.

They want to pimp our culture to promote their demonic lifestyle...we are not having that. Man and Woman create life. Life is good. Good is doing Godly things. Man and man create chaos. Chaos is evil. Evil is living backwards. Do the knowledge.

 

[mobbinfms]

100% of men who wear women's clothes are gay friend. Let's not parse words. It's called cross-dressing. Google and look it up and do some research.

If they wearing women's clothes to begin with they pretty much screaming to get out the closet and be free. The switch happened before they started wearing the clothes breh.

Are you stating that as a fact? Was that the source of a study? My understanding has always been: not all cross-dressers are gay, not all gay people cross dress. I'd be happy to look it up - but first confirm that you haven't. If you've got a study or something I'll just look at that.

Your second part here actually supports my argument that wearing clothes doesn't make you turn gay - you are arguing here that people who choose to wear women's clothes are already gay.

 

[mobbinfms]

no. because if you were a 32W, you would look like a damn fool wearing 2 sizes up in straight leg. fitted yes...tight...no. we was clownin yo ass if you had on some nuthuggers or your ass fit tighter in some jeans than the next chick. not cool.

I was on the basketball team, and you wore what uniform they gave you in the 80's and its not like we as individuals had the money to buy new bball uniforms that matched everyone else and the school I went to didnt have money like that either. Economics plays a part in this as well.

That's what I said - "Fitted". Fitted clothes were in style back in the 80s.

I agree with you that there is a difference between fitted and nuthuggers. Although by the time I cared about what I was wearing - if your pants weren't at least two sizes too big we called them nuthuggers.

 

[mobbinfms]

I dont know how old you are or your background...but its like someone said here....you need to study. Nothing happens overnight but its the perpetuation and planting of the seed that influences. Be it voluntary or involuntary. Whether the subjects are willing or unsuspecting/unaware.



Him disagreeing has nothing to do with whether something harms him directly or indirectly....but at the same time it could have everything to do with it. I just hate the use of the word homophobia being thrown around. Just look at how many times you have used the word in this thread. Its a verbal assault at trying force someone to believe or admit that there is something psychologically wrong with them just because they dont agree with a particular stance. Its a play (actually a war) on words.

I'm 32 years old and from the Bay Area. I don't dispute what you are saying on a general level - but no one wants to answer my follow up question that I've posed numerous times now - can viewing images of men in effeminate clothing actually change a person's sexual orientation? I'm aware of no evidence that it can.

Well - we approach what is right or wrong based on some sense of morality correct? And the underpinnings of morality, if you think about it - I would venture have to do with harm to others. That's why we as a society deem murdering, killing, cheating and drug dealing bad. So then - the question remains - how does homosexuality harm others?

Homophobia - to me - means you view homosexuality as inferior or morally wrong. Homophobia can be manifested through something subtle like language - or something more explicit like gay bashing. I don't believe that homophobic people are psychologically disturbed. And I can respect the viewpoints of others that have a basis in fact and are logically consistent. For example, I'm pro-choice - but I can respect a pro-life person's viewpoint if they are consistent - i.e. - they don't agree with abortion under any circumstances, even rape or incest - if you think that abortion is killing a human - then it shouldn't matter what the circumstances of conception are.

 

[mobbinfms]

They want to pimp our culture to promote their demonic lifestyle...we are not having that. Man and Woman create life. Life is good. Good is doing Godly things. Man and man create chaos. Chaos is evil. Evil is living backwards. Do the knowledge.

Here we go - what is the chaos that is created?

 

[Firefly]

Are you stating that as a fact? Was that the source of a study? My understanding has always been: not all cross-dressers are gay, not all gay people cross dress. I'd be happy to look it up - but first confirm that you haven't. If you've got a study or something I'll just look at that.

Your second part here actually supports my argument that wearing clothes doesn't make you turn gay - you are arguing here that people who choose to wear women's clothes are already gay.

Not gonna argue with you breh, but these men dressing and acting like women are gay friend.

U basically going in circles, loz. "So if this person sucks cockks doesn't make them gay"

Ok You win.

 

[Wacky D]

bet i'll give u that with Cam. But how is Asap (from Harlem as well obviously) not simply pushing limits. Why can Dre do weird shyt for attention but Asap and Ye can't?? I can dig the Egyptian imagery but did Dre really have to go all out with the glitter and mascara.

shyt this "skirt/hoodie" (i don't know what the fukk it is) lol Asap is rocking has egyptian imagery..

i just feel its a bit of a double standard yo

its a big difference.

i dont know if yall caught it, but what jamar said at the end was the most telling part and it illustrates the difference with people like asap & kanye. the difference is that these dudes are agenda-pushing puppets. and in return, everything they do gets pushed to the moon and theyre allowed in these little secret societies.

asap rocky was a complete unknown taking center-stage at the VMAs. kanye & wayne been washed for a long time now. why are they still presented at the forefront? they dont even hide this stuff no more because they already pulled the whooly over peoples heads so well.

lol. i didnt know that was mascara in the andre pic. i glanced at it and assumed it was face-paint. but still tho. i cant say that he looked gay. and im not a fan of his attention-whoring, for the record.

and while i can vouch for killa cam, i understand where oldheads are coming from when they look down on 2 ear-rings and stuff like that. hell, alot of young people still dont f**k with the 2 ear-ring bit.

 

[FluffyCorleone]

Things don't happen overweight. It's all social engineering and takes years to manifest itself.

I'm also bothered when some black people go out of their way to defend homosexuals ("OMG UR BEING HOMOPHOBIC STOP IT"). Why are you so preoccupied with defending gays? (that's the job of the white liberals) Worry about your own community first. I doubt gays care about you.

 

[Wild self]

Things don't happen overweight. It's all social engineering and takes years to manifest itself.

I'm also bothered when some black people go out of their way to defend homosexuals ("OMG UR BEING HOMOPHOBIC STOP IT"). Why are you so preoccupied with defending gays? (that's the job of the white liberals) Worry about your own community first. I doubt gays care about you.

Removal of the black father in the household started it in the 70s.

 

[Man On Fire]

I like Kanye's music...but I do now believe he's a complete full fledged fakkit who goes both ways...he acts too much like a bytch