Brand Nubians Lord Jamar: Kanye's Skirt Has No Place in Hip-Hop

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This is what he talking about




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I never called Jamar a has been. To me he's a legend. I'm a huge fan of Brand Nubian and I respect that he's voicing his opinion on a subject like this because it adds to the dialogue on the issue.

But his argument is silly. I'd've you listen to what he's saying - he has a very detailed and nuanced dress code he expects rappers to follow. One earring okay, but not two. Gold okay, but not diamonds. The skirt thing is easy to pick on but Jamar just comes across as obsessed with gender roles.

And why didn't he call out Dipset and 3 Stacks!!!

the parts about the earrings and diamonds was him detailing how we got to the point where people think they can get away with being super-bold.

he didnt call out dipset and 3 stacks because they dont dress like fakkits.
 

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the parts about the earrings and diamonds was him detailing how we got to the point where people think they can get away with being super-bold.

he didnt call out dipset and 3 stacks because they dont dress like fakkits.

Dre and Cam my nikkas but come on my nikka really :rudy:

this isn't any worst than Asap?? lol

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don't get me wrong though..i'm all for freedom of expression, but not calling out them as well is str8 BS.
 

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its crazy, but nowadays rappers are so out there, and wearing jeggings, blouses, dresses, seriously ... you might ask yourself since the lines are so blurred - what would a gay rapper wear to distinguish himself from the pack?

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Dre and Cam my nikkas but come on my nikka really :rudy:

this isn't any worst than Asap?? lol

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camron-pink1-e1271347359190.jpg

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:smugYe:

don't get me wrong though..i'm all for freedom of expression, but not calling out them as well is str8 BS.

andre just wears wierd stuff for attention. and i can vouch for those 2 pics. the first pic represents our ancestry and when we were kings. the 2nd pic is that p-funk/bootsy collins type stuff. i always looked at that as a salute to the artists that influenced him. now theres alot of stuff that he wears that i wont vouch for, but he never struck me as a fruitcake.

cam falls under the category of pushing the limits, but he was so street with his that you had to accept it. hes just a fly nicca. and other fly niccas can relate.

now this asap rocky/kanye west/lil wayne stuff is just gay chit.
 

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andre just wears wierd stuff for attention. and i can vouch for those 2 pics. the first pic represents our ancestry and when we were kings. the 2nd pic is that p-funk/bootsy collins type stuff. i always looked at that as a salute to the artists that influenced him. now theres alot of stuff that he wears that i wont vouch for, but he never struck me as a fruitcake.

cam falls under the category of pushing the limits, but he was so street with his that you had to accept it. hes just a fly nicca. and other fly niccas can relate.

now this asap rocky/kanye west/lil wayne stuff is just gay chit.

bet i'll give u that with Cam. But how is Asap (from Harlem as well obviously) not simply pushing limits. Why can Dre do weird shyt for attention but Asap and Ye can't?? I can dig the Egyptian imagery but did Dre really have to go all out with the glitter and mascara.

shyt this "skirt/hoodie" (i don't know what the fukk it is) lol Asap is rocking has egyptian imagery..
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i just feel its a bit of a double standard yo
 

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Not only dressing like biitches, but actually wearing womens clothes.........


And folks are acting like Jamar is wrong for speaking about it?


Can't wait to see the next generation 20 yrs from now. Dudes just gonna be blatantly sucking ea others diicks in the "straight" clubs and when you complain they gonna say "you're out of touch" :huhldup:
 

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We need a modern DMX type figure to sell 5 mill and put an end to this modern day fakkitry


I have no idea who could fulfill that role tho


No one under 40 these days.
 

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Not only dressing like biitches, but actually wearing womens clothes.........


And folks are acting like Jamar is wrong for speaking about it?


Can't wait to see the next generation 20 yrs from now. Dudes just gonna be blatantly sucking ea others diicks in the "straight" clubs and when you complain they gonna say "you're out of touch" :huhldup:

:laff:
 

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the parts about the earrings and diamonds was him detailing how we got to the point where people think they can get away with being super-bold.

he didnt call out dipset and 3 stacks because they dont dress like fakkits.

It's true that the examples I gave were part of a detailing of how hip hop fashion became more and more effeminate, but he cited the examples he did because he considered those things to be feminine and thus not something a male hip hop fan should wear. So technically we are both right.
 

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its crazy, but nowadays rappers are so out there, and wearing jeggings, blouses, dresses, seriously ... you might ask yourself since the lines are so blurred - what would a gay rapper wear to distinguish himself from the pack?

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Kanye-West-Wears-Ladies-Blouse-For-Coachella-Set.jpg


ASAP-Rocky-Dress.jpg

Lil Wayne is another prime example of someone Jamar should have called out. In this case for wearing skin tight women's jeggings.
 

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andre just wears wierd stuff for attention. and i can vouch for those 2 pics. the first pic represents our ancestry and when we were kings. the 2nd pic is that p-funk/bootsy collins type stuff. i always looked at that as a salute to the artists that influenced him. now theres alot of stuff that he wears that i wont vouch for, but he never struck me as a fruitcake.

cam falls under the category of pushing the limits, but he was so street with his that you had to accept it. hes just a fly nicca. and other fly niccas can relate.

now this asap rocky/kanye west/lil wayne stuff is just gay chit.

Isn't that the whole point though? That Kanye and ASAP are wearing weird stuff to make themselves stand out and garner more attention? How is it any different than Andre rocking the skirt with the football pads and helmet? Or Cam incorporating pink into everything he wore? Or Dipset adopting the rock star look and wearing fitted clothing?

Pushing the limits - even on a street level - was directly denounced by Jamar in the video. Maybe you disagree with Jamar on that point - but you would have to acknowledge that there is no harm in rocking certain effeminate styles (2 earrings and diamonds).

If you want to call people out for wearing gimmicky fashion to seek attention that's fine - but be consistent.

What I take issue with is the argument that straight dudes are going to see Kanye wearing a skirt and transform overnight and become gay. Or if straight dudes wear effeminate fashion that is going to turn them gay. That is completely unsubstantiated opinion and stems from homophobia.

I also take issue with the homophobia. There isn't anything inherently wrong with homosexuality. Do you disagree with that? If you do - how does other people being attracted to the same sex harm Wacky D?
 
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