Brand Nubians Lord Jamar: Kanye's Skirt Has No Place in Hip-Hop

[Gravity]

I'm asking you a separate question. One that you are ducking from.

Are you ok with your female relatives being lesbian, but not your male relatives being gay? Yes or no. Simple question.

No, why would you think?

 

[Wild self]

How do you know HOW these kids were raised let alone if the fathers who raised them were hypermasculine or supported violence in music or in general. You seem to have a certain vendetta towards 80s/90s Hip Hop.

I don't blame the kids and of course their parent(s)/guardian(s) should take the lion share of the blame but the puppets ie Kanye/Puffy and their puppet masters ie Jimmy Iovine/Clive Davis should be taken to task for presenting this foolishness to young black people and the black community at whole. We can go back and place blame on every generation dating back to the slave ships but the focus is on what is going today and how it is affecting the new generation and community as a whole.

I don't have a vendetta on 90s rap, just the individuals that got caught up in the image and thought that all that exaggerated shyt is true. Some of the rappers that done that negative shyt admitted to their wrongdoings (Nas, Jay,etc) or fallen off as time went on. They have my props, but the hard headed rappers and their followers that still do the negative shyt they talking about, deserve all the backlash they get. What goes around, comes around.

Trust me, if a parent raises their children to be strong enough mentally, no outside (negative) influence can change their behavior. That is just good parenting. Puff got carried away with the excessive materialism and Kanye ended the gangsta rap vice-grip. And it wasn't Kanye that made fitted/ Skinny jeans popular, it was Stack Bundles that made it available and popular to the streets.

But people don't want solutions. They just want to blame the kids and not the parents/ community that raised them to be that way. No accountability of any form.

 

[Rakim Allah]

I don't have a vendetta on 90s rap, just the individuals that got caught up in the image and thought that all that exaggerated shyt is true. Some of the rappers that done that negative shyt admitted to their wrongdoings (Nas, Jay,etc) or fallen off as time went on. They have my props, but the hard headed rappers and their followers that still do the negative shyt they talking about, deserve all the backlash they get. What goes around, comes around.

Trust me, if a parent raises their children to be strong enough mentally, no outside (negative) influence can change their behavior. That is just good parenting. Puff got carried away with the excessive materialism and Kanye ended the gangsta rap vice-grip. And it wasn't Kanye that made fitted/ Skinny jeans popular, it was Stack Bundles that made it available and popular to the streets.

But people don't want solutions. They just want to blame the kids and not the parents/ community that raised them to be that way. No accountability of any form.

Who are these "old heads" though that promote black on black violence while scolding this generation of kids while raising drake like sons??

 

[Wild self]

Who are these "old heads" though that promote black on black violence while scolding this generation of kids while raising drake like sons??

Read the thread. Especially the ones that talk shyt about today, but ignored the problems of the past where today's problems stemmed from.

 

[mobbinfms]

No, why would you think?

Why would I think what?

 

[Rakim Allah]

Read the thread. Especially the ones that talk shyt about today, but ignored the problems of the past where today's problems stemmed from.

So you're saying there are "old heads" in this thread that are shytting on the new generation of kids for dressing feminine while condoning black on black violence all the while raising soft drake like kids??

Todays problems stem from not only the past(far back than the 90s) but from what is going on today. These kids are dressing feminine because like kids they follow trends. The puppets and puppetmasters are setting these trends by constantly promoting these images thru the airwaves and other media devices.

 

[Wild self]

So you're saying there are "old heads" in this thread that are shytting on the new generation of kids for dressing feminine while condoning black on black violence all the while raising soft drake like kids??

Todays problems stem from not only the past(far back than the 90s) but from what is going on today. These kids are dressing feminine because like kids they follow trends. The puppets and puppetmasters are setting these trends by constantly promoting these images thru the airwaves and other media devices.

They only control the weak minded. There are individuals that risen above that feminine shyt from the young generation, sort of like the Chuck Ds that spoke out the violent bullshyt in the past that a lot of brothas got caught up on since it was "real nikka shyt."

 

[sporticus]

Hip-hop used to be about breaking rules. Now it's about following them.

 

[OG Talk]

You're right. White America doesn't have a problem with racism. They just got jokes about African-Americans and feel uncomfortable around behavior they deem to be stereotypically African American.

So being arrested for a hate crime is your benchmark for prejudice?

Please quote where i said that hip-hop should be a "rest haven for sissies".

And don't quote from the Mack either.

I'm not gonna touch that bizzare comment about poking my azz with a stick with a ten foot pole.

And if you think that my mentality is foreign - you've just made my argument that hip-hop does have a problem with homophobia.

There is a middle ground between pro fakkit and anti gay...The majority of nikkas don't care.. You're obviously not one of them, which makes your mentality foreign...

 

[Rakim Allah]

They only control the weak minded. There are individuals that risen above that feminine shyt from the young generation, sort of like the Chuck Ds that spoke out the violent bullshyt in the past that a lot of brothas got caught up on since it was "real nikka shyt."

Majority of kids are weak minded and easily manipulated.

Another generation of kids are caught up in the some horseshyt and it obvious who is promoting it. One of it's promoters got called out by a EMCEE who wasn't a gangster rapper and a thread was made. If you wanna talk about horseshyt that went on in 90s hip hop then make a thread about it. If MC Eiht or Spice 1 called out Kanye while raising a son who wore feminine clothes then you would have somewhat of a point. But U have been reaching a lot in this thread.

 

[OG Talk]

Hip-hop used to be about breaking rules. Now it's about following them.

Yes and it's also becoming more politically correct and generally sensitive which wasn't the case in the past..There will no longer be any tolerance for the intolerant (depending on the situation of course)...

It's a result of the liberal agenda having its hands on every aspect of pop culture..The slippery slope began with Eminem caving to the criticism and Salansky styled organized pressure and performing with Elton John...

Then grew with the intellectual dishonesty of Kanye saying rappers should no longer use the word fakkit, while using the words bytch and nikka countless times on his albums...

If these guys aren't being used or influenced then I don't know what to call it...If they are leaders I don't think they really know where they are taking their sheep...

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Did you just call me "bratty"...IDK what to say...I can see you rollin your neck as you said that...

Lemme guess you were in the same shoes as Ye...since you were raised by a single mother you picked up her habits and the guys at school "mistaken" you were gay because you suck your teeth and roll your neck when heated?

Son it don't matter if a man fukk bad bytches...if he's gay then he is...

Stop making excuses for unacceptable behvior...

Wrong again. I'm just not a bigoted ass hole.

Raised by both parents from one of the arguably most homophobic countries on earth. Miss me with that.

Enlightenment knows no boundaries. Except your doorstep, that is...

Please tell me whats "unacceptable" for a grown ass man to wear.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not it doesn't.. Hip hop doesn't have a problem with homophobia.. That's the biggest lie the white man ever told you.. We just got jokes and feel uncomfortable around effeminate behavior ...

How many rappers have been arrested for gay bashing or hate crimes?

Now..

How many rappers have been arrested for violence against women and other straight Black men?

Hip hop is a culture of brash, opinionated, testosterone fueled alpha males.. You expecting it to become a rest haven for sissies is unreasonable..

That's why dudes are poking your fruity azz with the proverbial stick.. pause...

Your mentality is foreign and always will be...

Is this an excuse?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

In all actuality you're correct that wearing a dress doesn't make one gay. It does cast a suspicion in our society that you are however. Reason being cos we have NEVER in our culture had men wearing skirts. I'm sure even kac's in the 19th century called Scott's queer for doing so!

So?

So when people call men wearing a dress gay they are speaking in terms of OUR society.

So?

I don't think Wayne is gay, but he did some gay shyt by kissing Baby right?

So?


See this is my fukking point.

If you all had ACTUAL ROLE MODELS then you'd just realize its entertainment at the end of the day and you wouldn't take it seriously.

I don't hold heath ledger seriously for not actually being the joker.

Its that mentality that allows me to enjoy Pac just as much as Rick Ross or Lupe.

I value ENTERTAINMENT.

They're musicians. I value their music. Thats all they're worth to society. Stop asking for them to do more than what they are doing.

Thats the entire point of free speech. Unless you want to endorse book burning as well.

If he takes dikk on the side, I could care less as long as I can consume the music that I like.

Frank Ocean can fukk aout all the nikkas he wants, as long as I like the music he makes and it doesn't make it seem like i'm singing to another guy, then I could care less.

I don't like music guys make for other guys, but i'm not out here trying to hate on them...I simply don't listen to it.

You're not getting it. I don't oppose them. I let them be. If you were raised to actually do the same you'd let them be instead of trying act like you can prevent gay people from...being gay.

I understand the desire to not enable perverted people, but not all gays are pedophiles and even further, not all gays want to tempt other people to be gay.

Its about respect at the end of the day.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yes and it's also becoming more politically correct and generally sensitive which wasn't the case in the past..There will no longer be any tolerance for the intolerant (depending on the situation of course)...

It's a result of the liberal agenda having its hands on every aspect of pop culture..The slippery slope began with Eminem caving to the criticism and Salansky styled organized pressure and performing with Elton John...

Then grew with the intellectual dishonesty of Kanye saying rappers should no longer use the word fakkit, while using the words bytch and nikka countless times on his albums...

If these guys aren't being used or influenced then I don't know what to call it...If they are leaders I don't think they really know where they are taking their sheep...

So the alternative is to force gays underground and deny them rights?

In your eyes, why don't we just kill them like in Uganda? Might as well right? Whats stopping us from going that far?

You can't have it both ways.

I don't think gays should force themselves onto others, but nor do I think guys should harass women when they're denied. You've got to stop with this slippery slope bullshyt. It goes both ways.

Its a balancing act of respect and you don't seem to understand this.