Brand Nubians Lord Jamar: Kanye's Skirt Has No Place in Hip-Hop

[OG Talk]

So - you don't challenge the opinions of the KKK - those opinions are fine with you?

No I ignore them.. Just like you should do with all these dudes trolling you..

This isn't even a serious topic... An attention whoring half a sissy rapper dresses like a weirdo so people will notice him...

This has nothing to do with gay rights, hiv, the Black community, prison industrial complex or KKK..

 

[Statik]

The burden is on your end you have nothing. plain and simple.

 

[OG Talk]

The burden is on your end you have nothing. plain and simple.

I don't know if he's gay and honestly could care less...

But to say that Kanye isn't suspect is in itself a suspect statement...

 

[mobbinfms]

No I ignore them.. Just like you should do with all these dudes trolling you..

This isn't even a serious topic... An attention whoring half a sissy rapper dresses like a weirdo so people will notice him...

This has nothing to do with gay rights, hiv, the Black community, prison industrial complex or KKK..

You are right that Kanye wearing a skirt shouldn't be a serious topic. Unfortunately, it has exposed the rampant and ugly homophobia within the hip hop community. That is a serious topic.

Also - whether or not people are trolling in this thread is one thing - but rest assured that the KKK and other like minded groups are not!

When you confront injustice (especially amongst friends) you should not remain silent.

 

[OG Talk]

You are right that Kanye wearing a skirt shouldn't be a serious topic. Unfortunately, it has exposed the rampant and ugly homophobia within the hip hop community. That is a serious topic.

Also - whether or not people are trolling in this thread is one thing - but rest assured that the KKK and other like minded groups are not!

When you confront injustice (especially amongst friends) you should not remain silent.

Not it doesn't.. Hip hop doesn't have a problem with homophobia.. That's the biggest lie the white man ever told you.. We just got jokes and feel uncomfortable around effeminate behavior ...

How many rappers have been arrested for gay bashing or hate crimes?

Now..

How many rappers have been arrested for violence against women and other straight Black men?

Hip hop is a culture of brash, opinionated, testosterone fueled alpha males.. You expecting it to become a rest haven for sissies is unreasonable..

That's why dudes are poking your fruity azz with the proverbial stick.. pause...

Your mentality is foreign and always will be...

 

[Dzali OG]

What excuses? hes pretty much right. wearing a fukking kilt does not make you gay in the slighest FHO.You seem to wish for Kanye to be gay imo. funny thing is theirs no shred of evidence to confirm or even suspect that he is. its always been his obession with female models.

In all actuality you're correct that wearing a dress doesn't make one gay. It does cast a suspicion in our society that you are however. Reason being cos we have NEVER in our culture had men wearing skirts. I'm sure even kac's in the 19th century called Scott's queer for doing so!

So when people call men wearing a dress gay they are speaking in terms of OUR society.

I don't think Wayne is gay, but he did some gay shyt by kissing Baby right?

 

[Gravity]

I got you. So you'd be ok with your female relatives being lesbian but not your male relatives being gay?

No, I'm personally disgusted by the thought of 2 men and not 2 women. You don't have to re-word or rephrase my comments, I'm speaking clearly.

I think that the this whole gay trend is getting out of control regarding lesbians and gays though. There's definitely some kind of gay agenda being pushed on the public IMO.

 

[Rakim Allah]

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The hypermasculine generation aka Generation X. How you claiming that you hard, but raised a Drake type son?

How do U know a hypermasculine male raised a drake like son or raised him period?? You're reaching like a mug with that one. With all the single moms out there chances are the soft kid was raised by the mother, grandmother or the state.

 

[Rakim Allah]

You know damn well that black-on-black violence is something that the oldheads supported heavily in the past cause it was "real" and " keeping it street." They don't even utter a word about black folk dying in large numbers over shyt like colors, crews, etc. but go out their way to scold harmless kids, who were
raised by them, who wear feminine clothing. Hypocrisy at its best.

Stop reaching with that horseshyt. Plenty of old heads/generation x people have and con't to speak out on the ills of violence whether in music or in the streets.

Who are these old heads that support violence and black people dying while scolding this generation that they are raising??

 

[mobbinfms]

Not it doesn't.. Hip hop doesn't have a problem with homophobia.. That's the biggest lie the white man ever told you.. We just got jokes and feel uncomfortable around effeminate behavior ...

How many rappers have been arrested for gay bashing or hate crimes?

Now..

How many rappers have been arrested for violence against women and other straight Black men?

Hip hop is a culture of brash, opinionated, testosterone fueled alpha males.. You expecting it to become a rest haven for sissies is unreasonable..

That's why dudes are poking your fruity azz with the proverbial stick.. pause...

Your mentality is foreign and always will be...

You're right. White America doesn't have a problem with racism. They just got jokes about African-Americans and feel uncomfortable around behavior they deem to be stereotypically African American.

So being arrested for a hate crime is your benchmark for prejudice?

Please quote where i said that hip-hop should be a "rest haven for sissies".

And don't quote from the Mack either.

I'm not gonna touch that bizzare comment about poking my azz with a stick with a ten foot pole.

And if you think that my mentality is foreign - you've just made my argument that hip-hop does have a problem with homophobia.

 

[mobbinfms]

No, I'm personally disgusted by the thought of 2 men and not 2 women. You don't have to re-word or rephrase my comments, I'm speaking clearly.

I think that the this whole gay trend is getting out of control regarding lesbians and gays though. There's definitely some kind of gay agenda being pushed on the public IMO.

I'm asking you a separate question. One that you are ducking from.

Are you ok with your female relatives being lesbian, but not your male relatives being gay? Yes or no. Simple question.

 

[mobbinfms]

In all actuality you're correct that wearing a dress doesn't make one gay. It does cast a suspicion in our society that you are however. Reason being cos we have NEVER in our culture had men wearing skirts. I'm sure even kac's in the 19th century called Scott's queer for doing so!

So when people call men wearing a dress gay they are speaking in terms of OUR society.

I don't think Wayne is gay, but he did some gay shyt by kissing Baby right?

You are by far the most reasonable person on your side of this debate.

People can kiss without it being romantic. Paid actors kiss all the time on camera (two straight men even).

I find it interesting that Jamar isn't talking about Cam wearing pink and Baby and Wayne kissing - he's going after the easy target - I'd respect his position more if he was calling out everybody he should be.

 

[The Dust King]

Another thing is.

Kanye was not the trend haven for skinny jeans..it was new boys and the jerk era is what brought that trend along. When kanye came out he was wearing pants that fit.


@ MC Metaphyscial Nice trolling. i know you cant be that dumb.

I never trolled in my life.

its convenient to make a vague sentence as opposed to an honest rebuttal. I deal in facts only.

ain't that the ngga who wore a dress in ya avi?

FYI kanye and pharell and lupe etc carried that skinny jeans style from the west after it was popular. so you have no point.

nice trolling.

 

[Wild self]

Stop reaching with that horseshyt. Plenty of old heads/generation x people have and con't to speak out on the ills of violence whether in music or in the streets.

Who are these old heads that support violence and black people dying while scolding this generation that they are raising??

a few People in this thread and some posters. Read carefully and you find out who.

Face it, there are more kids today that are on that feminine shyt that were raised by their fathers than kids of the 80s/90s that were raised by their fathers during the crack epidemic. What pisses off people so much about these female centered fashions is that it is always a reminder on the parents and how they failed to raised their sons properly.

 

[Rakim Allah]

a few People in this thread and some posters. Read carefully and you find out who.

Face it, there are more kids today that are on that feminine shyt that were raised by their fathers than kids of the 80s/90s that were raised by their fathers during the crack epidemic. What pisses off people so much about these female centered fashions is that it is always a reminder on the parents and how they failed to raised their sons properly.

How do you know HOW these kids were raised let alone if the fathers who raised them were hypermasculine or supported violence in music or in general. You seem to have a certain vendetta towards 80s/90s Hip Hop.

I don't blame the kids and of course their parent(s)/guardian(s) should take the lion share of the blame but the puppets ie Kanye/Puffy and their puppet masters ie Jimmy Iovine/Clive Davis should be taken to task for presenting this foolishness to young black people and the black community at whole. We can go back and place blame on every generation dating back to the slave ships but the focus is on what is going today and how it is affecting the new generation and community as a whole.