Boxing heads: Is Adrian Broner the real deal?

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It's a cycle. Divisions get hot & cold periodically. Right now, 135 is extremely cold. My fear is when he finally moves up, the guys at 140 will already be at 147. I'll admit he's good, but to be some sort of legend, which the OP is asking, you have to beat some top tier guys.

I guess we agree to disagree.

You can proclaim he is the real deal now.

I will wait once he beats a top tier fighter before I proclaim he's the real deal.

Canelo is the perfect example. He's a great talent. However, there has been some matching making there. Next fight looks to be Trout. An undefeated, legitimate 154 lber. He beats a guy like that he will look to be the real deal.

Wow. You actually understand the sport. Pretty rare. Keep up the good work.
 

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I'm a big fan of the Ali playbook for selling seats and I really want to like this kid but he takes it too far with his antics...The shimmying after KD'ing dudes is beyond classless and needs to stop asap...He is embarrassing us with that shyt and his jokes are always corny as fukk...

I'm also tired of hearing this dude being compared to Floyd...Floyd never was just speed and reflexes, he is a pure tactician...Aside for the shoulder roll they are nothing alike...Broner takes too many punches and is overly offensive minded...He is getting away with it because there is no one at 135 to test him unlike Floyd who was fighting HOF'ers at LW...

Broner is cut more from Zab's cloth, they share the same instincts and skill set...Zab had them Fast hands with power always looking like a beast against C level fighters he can beat to the punch and overwhelm but he had no intelligence when it came to boxing...He got exposed when he fought a tactician he couldn't offensively overwhelm in Kostya Tszyu...I fear the same fate for Broner...

Also Floyd had a fanbase before he adopted the money monicker and he always slips out of character to reveal his humble self after a fight...Broner has always been on that dumb ignorant embarrassing shyt...Dude needs to grow up and learn how to defend himself better...

How the fukk is HE embarrassing US.

I swear some of you c00nish clowns go too far with that shyt. Unless Broner is your blood brother or your son or your father or something, he can't embarrass you.
 

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I don't see or get all the Zab comparisons.

Zab was a beast no doubt on his way up, but he still had those mental lapses going on during fights. Broner is way more focused than Zab and actually sticks to a game plan during a fight. If Zab couldn't blast you out of their in the 1st half he'd gradually fall apart during the 2nd half or just do enough to win. Broner has way more ring smarts and boxing ability than Zab. If he was like Zab he wouldn't have went the distance with Ponce De Leon and that was a close competitive scrap too. Either guy could have taken it so I don't see how Broner got a gift. It depend on what you prefer. Broner had more clean punching while De Leon was more effective aggressively.

Nah, homey, you're comparing Broner to the full spectrum of Zab's career. Zab Judah on the rise (which is where Broner is at) wasn't falling apart during fights and shyt like that. We haven't seen Broner get to his peak level of cmopetition yet, so only time will tell.
 
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Well according to someone else on here, Rees exposed him last night. Would you agree with that assessment?

exposed him as what? A Dynamic puncher with pin point accuracy.

Broner was very impressive, even Roy Jones said wow.

Dude was literally playing with Rees those first two rounds, only shot he really got caught with was in the middle of that shuffle, I think it was a left hook or something he got hit with, but other then that Yall acting like Rees was lighting his ass up or something. He was just the more active the first two rounds, thats why he won them nothing really happened. The thing about Broner, he talk so much shyt, any time he get touched or it looks like he under fire, people gonna make it a bigger deal, because he suppose to be Mr. Untouchable.

I remember when HBO was trying to hype Devon Alexander, he didn't look nowhere as good as broner.So out of all the young fighters out now, who looks as impressive as Broner.

From the fights I've seen he's looked just as good, I can't think of anybody off hand who can be competition for him.
 

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Broner isn't really all that great, just over-hyped. Broner's defense has always been suspect and his reflexes/parrying aren't good, gets hit way too easy, especially when in a defensive shell or moving.

The lightweight division is also weak with sub-par competition which makes Broner seem much better than he is, but to his credit Broner's world class speed and power as a puncher helps him overcome opponents but if he moves up to another weight class or fights a decent counterpuncher with a little speed (Gavin Rees made Broner look sloppy last night, just had no power to do any damage to hurt Broner) and power it's over for Broner.

No shyt Sherlock! Anyone could Google that Broner got a TKO, but you obviously didn't watch the fight. Even though it was Broner's overall cumulative punching power which got the fight stopped, Broner was still getting popped by Rees and looked like a punching bag in all the other 4 rounds! As stated, if any of Broner's opponents had real power in their hands dude would be in serious trouble.

exposed him as what? A Dynamic puncher with pin point accuracy.

Broner was very impressive, even Roy Jones said wow.

Dude was literally playing with Rees those first two rounds, only shot he really got caught with was in the middle of that shuffle, I think it was a left hook or something he got hit with, but other then that Yall acting like Rees was lighting his ass up or something. He was just the more active the first two rounds, thats why he won them nothing really happened. The thing about Broner, he talk so much shyt, any time he get touched or it looks like he under fire, people gonna make it a bigger deal, because he suppose to be Mr. Untouchable.

I remember when HBO was trying to hype Devon Alexander, he didn't look nowhere as good as broner.So out of all the young fighters out now, who looks as impressive as Broner.

From the fights I've seen he's looked just as good, I can't think of anybody off hand who can be competition for him.
 
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Broner did not look like a punching bag all 4 rounds

after the first two rounds shyt was an ass beating with extra sauce.

He's not Mayweather, nobody is, nobody got defense look like that.

But the way he puts his punches together is spectacular.

The old guard of boxing is gone so the names aren't there anymore, but now there is one with Broner. Who looks as good as him, I want to see some of their fights, because he's the most impressive young fighter I've seen in a while.
 

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broner looks to be the real deal- but he just has to tighten up the defense some- he did get hit a little too much, and does sometimes to set up his chance to attack. i think in the 140 weight class- you could get caught slipping like that.

he's very talented and looks as if he can improve a lot more than he's at now, which is scary. he gotta sharpen the trash talk, the can man stuff was classic though. very entertaining fighter
 

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Yall nikkas need to calm down :beli:

Broners best win so far is against DeMarco....N while that performance was impressive DeMarco aint all that great....anyone who thought DeMarco had a chance was either jus hating on Broner or hyped off his 1st rd ko in his fight against Molina

135 is weak af Ricky Burns:stopitslime: & Vazquez boring ass:heh:

Hopefully Broner moves to 140 while its hot N makes some good fights...if hes doin the same thing to them nikkas then we can crown him
 

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Adrien Broner is a monster and Im Broners #1 stan. I have him #3 currently in the P4P list:manny:
 

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Broner's talent is there to see, he is real, but he needs to tighten up his defence. I want to seem him at 140
 

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If i was Broner i would stay in the division and fight one more fight than move to 140 by the end of the year. Take a tough but winnable matchup and see how he stacks up there with some of those heavy hitters. But on another note could anyone see him and Gary Russell possibly fighting one day? Or is Gary a little bit too small.
 

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His style won't translate to 140, he needs to tighten up that D


He needs to understand that you can't be a stalker and used the shoulder roll without getting touched, while in the shoulder roll stance, you either are in position to punch, or simply in position to defend, it's hard to accomplish both at the same time with that stance. There is a reason Mayweather use conventional D, or the high guard when stalking and being offensive, coupled with his footwork ducks, and pivots, it aint all about the shoulder roll with him.

Broner is good but he's young, overrated as fukk and need to stay away from 140, please believe Khan, Matthysse, and Garcia superbly edjucated strikers, will lay hands on him. Had he took that flush left hook with his mouth wide open from Rios, Garcia, or LM it would have been fight over, broken jaw, luckily he was fighting the light hitting Rees, and still he looked beatable and human, he needs to stay at 135 from at least 2 yeasr or until 140 clears out, he has about 3 or 4 l's waiting there for him
 

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Nah, homey, you're comparing Broner to the full spectrum of Zab's career. Zab Judah on the rise (which is where Broner is at) wasn't falling apart during fights and shyt like that. We haven't seen Broner get to his peak level of cmopetition yet, so only time will tell.


I don't think nikkas truly understood the point I was making.

Judah never fought someone as good as Ponce De Leon before he got a real world title. Judah didn't fight nikkas like that until after he became world champion. The fact Broner was able to scrape by someone as dangerous as Ponce De Leon while coming up shows you how skilled and talented he is and that the comparisions to Zab are wrong seeing that he beat someone more skilled than Zab ever did at that point in his career. That's all I'm saying. I'm comparing Broner at this stage to Zab back at his early stage.

Zab has had mental lapses. He got dropped against Terron Millet in prolly one of his best offensive performances. The ref even had to tell Zab to step it up during his fight with Reggie Green because Zab went through a stretch of not doing shyt. Now those 2 examples were after he got the IBF belt and before the Tsyzu fight. So dude was already a world champ doing shyt like that.

Now, he may have not been necessarily falling apart back then but the whole mental lapse shyt was evident. nikkas can agree to this disagree cuz it don't matter. I personally feel that Broner is boxing at a higher level than Zab was when he was at that age and coming up. So nah, I'm not talking about Zab's full career spectrum. I'm talking about when he was coming up and fighting on Showtime back in the day and listed two examples.

The verdict still out on Broner and Ring mag did him a disservice of putting him top 10 p4p because if he don't live up to that soon, cats are going to be hating and discrediting him like they do Donaire sometimes and he's already done 3x as much as Broner has in his career.
 

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If i was Broner i would stay in the division and fight one more fight than move to 140 by the end of the year. Take a tough but winnable matchup and see how he stacks up there with some of those heavy hitters. But on another note could anyone see him and Gary Russell possibly fighting one day? Or is Gary a little bit too small.


Russell too small, but that's one dude who needs to step his competition up asap.
 
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