Boxer Andre Ward Explains Hiatus and Dispute w/ Promoter Dan Goosen

[HARLEM AL]

He could just fight his contract out. But instead he wants to got to court to see if he can get out is of it. It's actually hurting him by not fighting.

 

[Black Ball]

He could just fight his contract out. But instead he wants to got to court to see if he can get out is of it. It's actually hurting him by not fighting.

Did you watch the video?

 

[HARLEM AL]

Did you watch the video?

Why would I watch the video when I already know the deal. This is dude did this 2 times already. He thinks he is bigger than what he is.

 

[Black Ball]

Why would I watch the video when I already know the deal. This is dude did this 2 times already. He thinks he is bigger than what he is.

That's what I thought. He said in the video that he's tried to make fights with mad dudes but Goosen don't want to make any fights. He said even though the fights are steps backwards in his career, he just wants to fight period.

 

[HARLEM AL]

That's what I thought. He said in the video that he's tried to make fights with mad dudes but Goosen don't want to make any fights. He said even though the fights are steps backwards in his career, he just wants to fight period.

Why would his promoter get him a fight when he is suing him? Do you know this isn't his first time trying to do this?

Some of you nikkas man asking me did I watch the video fukk I need to watch this video for if I seem this movie. nikka did this shyt 2 times already. fukk would his promoter keep trying to business with him. He ain't only boxer to get put on ice.

And he knows HBO isn't going to deal with him when is suing his promoter.

 

[Black Ball]

Why would his promoter get him a fight when he is suing him? Do you know this isn't his first time trying to do this?

Some of you nikkas man asking me did I watch the video fukk I need to watch this video for if I seem this movie. nikka did this shyt 2 times already. fukk would his promoter keep trying to business with him. He ain't only boxer to get put on ice.

And he knows HBO isn't going to deal with him when is suing his promoter.

Why you putting it on Ward like he is the shady one here? Goosen owes the other Promoter money. Goosen would make a fight if he was gonna cake heavy on it. If not, he's on some fukk you shyt.

 

[Newzz]

Why you putting it on Ward like he is the shady one here? Goosen owes the other Promoter money. Goosen would make a fight if he was gonna cake heavy on it. If not, he's on some fukk you shyt.

Exactly.

Im just tired of explaining it

The crux of Ward's issue with Goossen is this: For the last few years, Ward has been co-promoted by Goossen and Antonio Leonard. Goossen, the face of Goossen-Tutor promotions, has been the front man. Leonard has worked behind the scenes. Leonard has been instrumental in building support for Ward in Oakland. For many Ward fights, Leonard moves to the area a six weeks early, pushing Ward at local events, building his brand at the grassroots level.

In 2011, Ward re-signed with Goossen and Leonard. The two promoters split the signing bonus--$550,000--and agreed to continue sharing the promotional profits. However--and this is where things get a little murky--only Goossen's name was on the promotional agreement. According to Leonard, Goossen agreed to add Leonard to the promotional agreement once he was licensed in California. A December, 2010 email exchange between Goossen and Leonard--a copy of which was obtained by SI.com--show Goossen indicating it would be "no problem" adding Leonard to the paperwork once he was licensed.

Last summer, Ward, believing Leonard and his manager, James Prince, were being excluded from discussions about future fights, went to arbitration to break his contract with Goossen. Ward lost. Then, this: Last fall, Leonard received a California license. He asked Goossen to be added to the agreement. Goossen declined. Last November, Leonard claims that Goossen refused to pay him his share of the promotional revenue from Ward's super middleweight title defense against Edwin Rodriguez, revenue that Leonard estimates to be worth nearly $300,000. Then, Leonard alleges, Goossen informed him he would no longer be sharing any of the profit from Ward's fights.

When asked why he didn't insist on being included in the co-promotional agreement in the first place, Leonard cited a longstanding relationship with Goossen.

"I didn't have a problem with Dan," Leonard told SI.com. "I always felt he was a very trustworthy person. I never thought he wasn't. He said as long as I got my promoters license, I would get what I was supposed to get."

Goossen was not immediately available for comment.

None of this has sat well with Ward. To Ward, Goossen's actions were tantamount to a betrayal. Last December, Ward filed a lawsuit to void his contract. That case is still pending. Last month, Ward lost his second try at arbitration. While Goossen has publicly expressed a desire to move on, Ward has steadfastly maintained that Leonard needs to be involved in the process.

"I took Goossen's money," Ward said. "I took Leonard's money. I can't in good conscience walk away from [Leonard]. I can't take his money and know that he is not being compensated or ignored. That's the root of the issue. That's a friend of mine, that's a business partner of mine. For whatever reason, Dan decided to walk away and exclude him. I refuse to do it."

Battling a promoter in court carries risk. This isn't Judge Judy. A lawsuit could take months, years to be resolved. However Ward maintains that he is willing to fight for Goossen while the lawsuit plays out. But he says he has not had one legitimate offer from Goossen since December.

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People dont wanna read or watch. They just wanna blame SOG when he just trying to do what's right



#SOGGang


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[krackdagawd]

Exactly.

Im just tired of explaining it






People dont wanna read or watch. They just wanna blame SOG when he just trying to do what's right



#SOGGang

these demons can't relate to being an angelic stand up guy, that's why they hate on SOG

 

[HARLEM AL]

Why you putting it on Ward like he is the shady one here? Goosen owes the other Promoter money. Goosen would make a fight if he was gonna cake heavy on it. If not, he's on some fukk you shyt.

He owes the other promoter money. Does he owe ward bread? No....

You nikkas are gullible....

 

[HARLEM AL]

these demons can't relate to being an angelic stand up guy, that's why they hate on SOG

That's what we doing? Yeah I'm outta here...

 

[krackdagawd]

That's what we doing? Yeah I'm outta here...

He has two promoters who split signing him and Goosen isn't paying the other dude. He even said he was willing to fight jobbers as long as dude gets his cut. This isn't the first time he has said this.

Dude's want to make it seem like he doesn't want to fight and that's not the case.

 

[Black Ball]

He owes the other promoter money. Does he owe ward bread? No....

You nikkas are gullible....

shyt on a brother because he has integrity brehs

 

[Big Boss]

ward is black excellence

 

[HARLEM AL]

nikkas talking about Andre ward and fukking integrity. fukk outta here. They knew chad couldn't make 168 when they fought him. Matter of fact they tried to do a catch weight dude said no. Not to mention he suing the promoter who got him all his fights in the super six in Oakland.

You nikkas better go ahead b. do that shyt to a casual fan. You know I know better.

 

[Newzz]

nikkas talking about Andre ward and fukking integrity. fukk outta here. They knew chad couldn't make 168 when they fought him. Matter of fact they tried to do a catch weight dude said no. Not to mention he suing the promoter who got him all his fights in the super six in Oakland.

You nikkas better go ahead b. do that shyt to a casual fan. You know I know better.

Did Chad Dawson NOT agree to fight Ward at 168?


The he got that ass whopped and complained like a bytch afterwards when SOG made him quit