Boston Marathon Explosions...

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I CAN BARELY READ THAT IMAGE FROM WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM, BROTHER! WHAT IS IT, DUDE?
 

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what do you think they could have done to stop it?

so your saying this couldnt have been stopped? then why have security in the 1st place? anyone who fails at their job usually loses it...am i correct?
 

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They did exactly what they were supposed to do, but the question is, what the hell were they tasked with doing and why hasn't their presence been addressed in press conferences?

this is the million dollar question right here....
 

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I CAN BARELY READ THAT IMAGE FROM WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM, BROTHER! WHAT IS IT, DUDE?

It's a redacted field report but look carefully, brother.

"OSMAN/OSSMAN = UBL/OBL" means in the context of this report, any reference to "Tim Osman" is a actually Osama. It's a cover name.

"Stinger sales/transfer via Mujahadeen" a transaction occured in reference to the procurement of infantry operated anti-air missiles used to shoot down Soviet choppers during "the war".

"Osman and Ralph Olberg meet with US govt officials" = Osama and an American businessman met with government officials.

Bottom is authorizing gear, training, etc.
 

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I UNDERSTAND NOW, BROTHER! BUT NONE OF THAT SUGGESTS THAT THE CIA WAS DOWN WITH OSAMA 4 LYFE, DUDE! THEY WERE ARMING ANYBODY THEY COULD CONVINCE TO OPPOSE THE SOVIETS, MEAN GENE! AND IT ISN'T HARD TO CONVINCE RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS TO FIGHT INVADING GODLESS COMMUNISTS, JACK! HAVING A CODENAME IS LIKE A JOBBER HAVING A PSEUDONYM, BROTHER!
 

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I UNDERSTAND NOW, BROTHER! BUT NONE OF THAT SUGGESTS THAT THE CIA WAS DOWN WITH OSAMA 4 LYFE, DUDE! THEY WERE ARMING ANYBODY THEY COULD CONVINCE TO OPPOSE THE SOVIETS, MEAN GENE! AND IT ISN'T HARD TO CONVINCE RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS TO FIGHT INVADING GODLESS COMMUNISTS, JACK! HAVING A CODENAME IS LIKE A JOBBER HAVING A PSEUDONYM, BROTHER!

That's my point, they weren't down for life, brother. You made an assumption. When I said he was a "trusted asset" it doesn't mean he wasn't expendable at some point. He was trusted to carry out their bidding, but they (CIA) were thinking about the long con.

Read my post about the CIA and private entities exploiting religious fundamentalists (most recently radical Muslims) with a lot of influence as pawns, dude.

This is a prime example. As soon as Osama served his purpose the inevitable heel turn happened and Osama was made into the enemy of the state.

That's all I'm saying, brother.

I'd love to continue having a semi-serious text conversation with a forum alias at 2:00 AM on a saturday but I got an exam in the morning b. :pachaha:
 

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"MOST TRUSTED ASSETS" IS STILL A BIT CONTENTIOUS BUT I SEE YOUR POINT, BROTHER!

The fact that it's been reported that loudspeakers announced a bomb drill being run near the time the bombs went off rubs me the wrong way.
IS THIS A DOCUMENTED FACT, DUDE?

The fact that people are being conditioned and coerced into giving up their rights to shield them from the radical Muslim bogeyman rubs me the wrong way.
THIS IS MORE OPINION THAN FACT, MEAN GENE! AND FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMISTS AREN'T A BOGEYMAN, BROTHER! THAT MOVEMENT REALLY EXISTS AND HAS REALLY REACHED OUT AND TOUCHED THE U.S., DUDE!
 

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"MOST TRUSTED ASSETS" IS STILL A BIT CONTENTIOUS BUT I SEE YOUR POINT, BROTHER!


IS THIS A DOCUMENTED FACT, DUDE?


THIS IS MORE OPINION THAN FACT, MEAN GENE! AND FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMISTS AREN'T A BOGEYMAN, BROTHER! THAT MOVEMENT REALLY EXISTS AND HAS REALLY REACHED OUT AND TOUCHED THE U.S., DUDE!

http://blog.al.com/live/2013/04/boston_marathon_explosion_univ.html

He was an eye witness who was at the finish line before most of the runners and is just one eyewitness, but I feel his side of the story should be investigated. There was an original local news report that took his statement, but I can't find it, and I think a lot of the conspiracy/tin-foil sites are being a bit careless with how they quote the context of his statements

Again, we have no proof of drills, but I feel his story should be verified. I never claimed it to be fact (the existence of drills on Patriot's day), but if there is an eyewitness, it's important to verify the claim. But yes, it is a fact that someone has made a report, but now it's time to verify the accuracy of said report. Whether or not the media will do their job is the question.

Just to clarify, the Boston police commissioner addressed the question ("Were there exercises or prior knowledge blah blah) when some boor from InfoWars.com asked him, but he pivoted the question with double-talk and didn't really answer it. They appeared unwilling to answer this point. I strongly encourage you to look this information up because there's a full-on interview with him on InfoWars.com (I know, I know :snoop:) but it's very in-depth.

He's just some regular cac marathon runner and I doubt he has a reason to lie or make shyt up, but again, who knows, brother. I just wish mainstream media sources would be more willing to pry deeper and hear his side of the story out.

To your last point, yes, it isn't a statistical, verifiable piece of data , it's merely conjecture on my part, but if you fail to see that radical Islam is being exploited by forces within our government to further their agenda then you're not paying attention. Living in this country since 9/11 there is a prevalent fear and ignorance of Islam by and large. We have been conditioned and manipulated to associate Islam with violence and terrorism and nothing more.

Again, I am not denying the existence of Islamic radicals, and I am certainly not denying they have never been exploited to attack us. However, I strongly believe that forces within our government are yet again using these fundamentalists to strengthen their control.

The "islamic terrorist" is a bogeyman and our ignorant populace has eaten it up. By bogeyman I am not implying they don't exist, but I am implying that they are used as an over simplified enemy to justify wrongful preemptive military action and authoritarian legislation and create an air of paranoia and fear. If you think it's Islamic terrorists alone then you're missing the full picture, dude.

In my opinion the CIA is the most dangerous terrorist organization on the planet. I absolutely have to go now, if you have another point to make it, make it quickly, otherwise I'll respond to it later today, dude.
 

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so your saying this couldnt have been stopped? then why have security in the 1st place? anyone who fails at their job usually loses it...am i correct?

I'm asking how you stop this. you got 1000's of people with backpacks. how do you find the 2 with bombs?
 

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Boston Marathon explosion: University of Mobile coach offers first-hand reports from scene | al.com

He was an eye witness who was at the finish line before most of the runners and is just one eyewitness, but I feel his side of the story should be investigated. There was an original local news report that took his statement, but I can't find it, and I think a lot of the conspiracy/tin-foil sites are being a bit careless with how they quote the context of his statements

Again, we have no proof of drills, but I feel his story should be verified. I never claimed it to be fact (the existence of drills on Patriot's day), but if there is an eyewitness, it's important to verify the claim. But yes, it is a fact that someone has made a report, but now it's time to verify the accuracy of said report. Whether or not the media will do their job is the question.

Just to clarify, the Boston police commissioner addressed the question ("Were there exercises or prior knowledge blah blah) when some boor from InfoWars.com asked him, but he pivoted the question with double-talk and didn't really answer it. They appeared unwilling to answer this point. I strongly encourage you to look this information up because there's a full-on interview with him on InfoWars.com (I know, I know :snoop:) but it's very in-depth.

He's just some regular cac marathon runner and I doubt he has a reason to lie or make shyt up, but again, who knows, brother. I just wish mainstream media sources would be more willing to pry deeper and hear his side of the story out.

This is ridiculous. So dude points out that there's bomb sniffing dogs around at the start of a huge event like the Boston Marathon...and that's cause for concern. We should pry deeper into his story?

Why are you suggesting there's some hidden details? He isn't.

When people make huge stretches like this it makes me believe they're seeing what they want to see and looking for any tiny piece of "evidence" to support it.
 

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This is ridiculous. So dude points out that there's bomb sniffing dogs around at the start of a huge event like the Boston Marathon...and that's cause for concern. We should pry deeper into his story?

Why are you suggesting there's some hidden details? He isn't.

When people make huge stretches like this it makes me believe they're seeing what they want to see and looking for any tiny piece of "evidence" to support it.

:what: No... reading comprehension, please. I'm not suggesting any hidden details, I'm giving an anecdotal recollection of interviews I've been listening to, reports I've read, and press conferences I've seen while giving my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

I'm referencing statements he made to InfoWars.com in an interview. He was an eyewitness whose testimony is interesting. I can't figure what his motive would be to lie about hearing them announce a drill.

He reports hearing that there were loudspeakers announcing that there was a bomb drill going on at the SAME TIME as the marathon. Drills are basically simulated situations that mimic an actual attack or situation. Clearly if there were simulated "bombs" planted police or whatever personnel in the area would have their guard down.

He said he heard them announcing this towards the end of the race, by the finish line where the infamous bomb video at the finish line was recorded. He was there earlier than most of the runner because he was a coach.

Do you not see why it's troubling to have an actual bomb go off in the same location where a supposed bomb drill/exercise was taking place? Again, this is under the assumption he's telling the truth.

Journalists are not mouthpieces, they are investigators. I just feel that his story shouldn't be ignored, if you feel that way fine, but it's simply my opinion.
 

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so called alqaeda is not only a bogeyman to cement US gov's control over islamic and african countries but also US cia death squads recklessly murdering as much muslims as possible.
 

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so your saying this couldnt have been stopped? then why have security in the 1st place? anyone who fails at their job usually loses it...am i correct?

No, not really. With that logic any sports team that doesn't go undefeated would be fired. Any salesman with less than a 100% success rate would be fired. Any cop in a district with even one crime would be fired. Any teacher without a 100% pass rate would be fired. Etc...

People are people. No one is perfect (except Ancient Egyptians of course :troll:).

Whats strange is that Americans are so disillusioned that many of us think we can, and are supposed to achieve 100% safety. This world is a dangerous place. Always has, and always will be.

so called alqaeda is not only a bogeyman to cement US gov's control over islamic and african countries but also US cia death squads recklessly murdering as much muslims as possible.

source?
 

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we classified this as extremist terrorism connected to world wide organizations, before we even knew all the facts. We didn't even consider that they could have just been some Columbine type sh1t.
 
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