Bonds, Sosa and Clemens to appear on hof ballot for the first time

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Yeah, I know, but still the holdover nikkas from the previous year should have made it perfectly clear what was expected. If I was in the dugout I would not have been happy after that.

Estes: I did it guys!

Mets nikkas: :childplease: You ain't even hit him...

Estes: But I came close!

Mets nikkas: :pacspit::stopitslime:
haha yea it was pretty ridiculous but that is the Mets way....have someone who wasn't even on the 2000 team attempt to hit him.....and FAIL

At least he hit a HR off Clemens in that game I think :skip:
 

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honestly at some point they need to do away with voting altogether

do some computer-based stat crunching and be done with it. baseball is all stats anyway.

Im tired of old ass farts dictating shyt in a sport that is all about getting numbers. fukk outta here with that moral shyt, we aint inducting them to heaven for christs sake.

baseball reference HoF meter > HoF voters.
 

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honestly at some point they need to do away with voting altogether

do some computer-based stat crunching and be done with it. baseball is all stats anyway.

Im tired of old ass farts dictating shyt in a sport that is all about getting numbers. fukk outta here with that moral shyt, we aint inducting them to heaven for christs sake.

baseball reference HoF meter > HoF voters.

Forget all of that. All they need to do is really eliminate the character clause. Because of that, writers get to do the one thing we'd all love to do in life in some official capacity: play moral police.
 

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Forget all of that. All they need to do is really eliminate the character clause. Because of that, writers get to do the one thing we'd all love to do in life in some official capacity: play moral police.

there is a character clause ? I honestly didnt know

still with any kind of human voting you get moral police whether we like it or not. just like a jury is supposed to be impartial but really isnt

in a sports where stats rule supreme its extremely easy to institute computer voting. now in football thats impossible, but in baseball, at least for hitters and pitchers who have numbers, it should be just fine
 

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there's no point in discussing this. none of them are getting in. palmeiro already set the PED standard for them to be like :whoa: when it comes to the MLB hall of fame.
 

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there's no point in discussing this. none of them are getting in. palmeiro already set the PED standard for them to be like :whoa: when it comes to the MLB hall of fame.

The difference is Palmeiro a) actually failed a test and b) was arguably a compiler.


If it were me, the only 2 things that would be cause for exclusion is failing a drug test (so Palmeiro, Manny NOT in) and betting on baseball.
 

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2014 is gonna be piff though

2014: Moises Alou, Armando Benitez, Sean Casey, Jose Cruz Jr., Ray Durham, Damion Easley, Keith Foulke, Eric Gagne, Tom Glavine, Luis Gonzalez, Scott Hatteberg, Jacque Jones, Todd Jones, Jeff Kent, Jon Lieber, Esteban Loaiza, Paul Lo Duca, Greg Maddux, Matt Morris, Mike Mussina, Trot Nixon, Hideo Nomo, Jay Payton, Kenny Rogers, Richie Sexson, J.T. Snow, Shannon Stewart, Frank Thomas, Mike Timlin, Steve Trachsel, Jose Vidro

Hatteberg :yes: They made a MOVIE out of him brehs
 

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Did anyone see Pedro Gomez say he didn't vote for PED users and then defended the players who are in due to amphetamine use?

First, this guy's whole career is based off him rummaging through Barry Bonds' trash. Secondly, how did this dude get a vote for the baseball HOF? Who is he? Third, so a certain level of illegal drug use is ok Pedro? This dude is a complete joke.
 

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Did anyone see Pedro Gomez say he diet vote for PED users and then defended the players who are in due to amphetamine use?

First, this guy's whole career is based off him rummaging through Barry Bonds' trash. Secondly, how did this dude get a vote for the baseball HOF? Who is he? Third, so a certain level of drug use is ok Pedro? This dude is a complete joke.


The ish I don't get is the justification for pitchers like Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford.

ESPN.com - Page2 - Biggest cheaters in baseball
:wtf:
 
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