up 5% today already
If its low GREAT....then it will rise once again..
the stockcharts chart I'm looking at screams buy
Boiler Room: The Official Stock Market Discussion
If its low GREAT....then it will rise once again..
the stockcharts chart I'm looking at screams buy
@Shugg Ross
Two things you should know... EPE options are not very liquid and EPE is rarely moved by earnings. EPE has a pile of debt and has reported good earnings for the past few quarters, but there's never a breakout probably due to that debt. For the 1.5 years I've been watching, it's closely tied to WTI. If WTI is up 3% expect a 10% increase and vice versa. If you're betting on EPE, you're betting on it as a proxy to WTI.
Let me talk you through buying some options before you do it because if you make the wrong choice, you have a good chance of losing, perhaps everything. I can take a look at the chart I've made for EPE and try to tell you if you buy a certain strike price, where you're anticipating WTI to be as well.
If you're bullish on oil, I might buy out of the money calls that expire in November or February. Probably $12.50... maybe even a $15 strike. $17.50 is probably pushing it. Short term bets are dangerous.
Two things you should know... EPE options are not very liquid and EPE is rarely moved by earnings. EPE has a pile of debt and has reported good earnings for the past few quarters, but there's never a breakout probably due to that debt. For the 1.5 years I've been watching, it's closely tied to WTI. If WTI is up 3% expect a 10% increase and vice versa. If you're betting on EPE, you're betting on it as a proxy to WTI.
Let me talk you through buying some options before you do it because if you make the wrong choice, you have a good chance of losing, perhaps everything. I can take a look at the chart I've made for EPE and try to tell you if you buy a certain strike price, where you're anticipating WTI to be as well.
If you're bullish on oil, I might buy out of the money calls that expire in November or February. Probably $12.50... maybe even a $15 strike. $17.50 is probably pushing it. Short term bets are dangerous.
Futuristic Eskimo
All Star
Valuation isn't all that attractive given their balance sheet issues.
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Didn't really look at it too closely other than the P/E
Someone school me on the steps into investing in emerging markets, primarily african companies? And is 1k to start off good enough?
You just have to wonder when these companies start dropping like flies with sustained downturn in oil prices. Hedging futures contracts is the only thing saving some of these companies and that can't last forever.
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
do you have a brokerage account?
here's an article on some interesting Africa Funds that are out there.
Ride 'African Lion' Economies With an ETF
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
may have to go long AAPL here. Don't fight the trend on this one much like AMZN, NFLX, GOOG.
I dont have anything besides a 401k, will read this when i get home. Are there any legit black run companies that can do the ground work for me and i just put in funds?
Futuristic Eskimo
All Star
How many of these producers could realistically be effectively hedged deep into the year? Every time I read about a different company, a point is made that they are almost fully hedged through the rest of this year at like $85-$95 a barrel. If that's not bs, whoever is on the other end of those trades must be
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
not that I really know of off the top of my head. It's something I'd have to look into.
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Pacific Crest, Wunderlich and Needham all have "buys" or "outperforms" on LifeLock. These analysts are useless. Which one is going to come out with a downgrade tomorrow?
Opened a position in Michael Kors options
2017 January Calls...
$47.50 strike
Paid about $4.50 for both contracts
In essence if this shyt can go back up to $60 even by then I will triple up. Yea....its almost 50% but this shyt is extremely undervalued. Company is still growing, expectations are extremely low and the P/E is high. Great cash balance and book value too...i wonder if they'll offer dividends at all eventually
2017 January Calls...
$47.50 strike
Paid about $4.50 for both contracts
In essence if this shyt can go back up to $60 even by then I will triple up. Yea....its almost 50% but this shyt is extremely undervalued. Company is still growing, expectations are extremely low and the P/E is high. Great cash balance and book value too...i wonder if they'll offer dividends at all eventually
tesla Motors Inc (TSLA) Stock Is Falling: Five Reasons UBS Says It’s Time To Sell
By Angelo Young @angeloyoung_ a.young@ibtimes.com on July 21 2015 12:30 PM EDT
Visitors walk to the booth of U.S. electric carmaker Tesla Motors, during the Geneva Car Show on March 4, 2015. Tesla Motors shares plummeted Tuesday after UBS recommended that investors sell the company’s stock. Fabrice Coffrini/AFP/Getty Images
Tesla Motors Inc. (Nasdaq:TSLA) shares hit their second-highest price on record this week, but a prominent Wall Street analyst says it's now time to sell. The research unit of the Swiss bank UBS is casting doubt on the Model S luxury electric carmaker's ability to meet its 2015 sales targets for cars and electricity-storage units.
“We expect both storage and auto volume growth to disappoint,” UBS' Colin Langan, wrote in a research note released early Tuesday. The equities analyst downgraded the stock's rating from Neutral to Sell and lowered its 12-month price target from $220 to $210 per share.
Tesla's shares fell 4.72 percent to $268.95 after the downgrade.
The news came days after CEO Elon Musk introduced new Model S options and said the upcoming Model X crossover SUV was “on track” to start delivering the vehicles to pre-order customers in September. Tesla shares hit an all-time high of $286.04 on Sept. 4, 2014, when the company announced the location of its “gigafactory” battery plant near Reno, Nevada.
Earlier this year, Tesla unveiled its Powerwall and Powerpack energy storage systems for home, business, utility and off-grid purposes. The Nevada gigafactory is being constructed to produce 35 gigawatt hours (GWh) of battery storage capacity, including 15 GWh for energy storage. (One GWh is a standard energy measurement that represents 1 million kilowatt hours; a high-end Model S uses a 90 kWh battery pack.) UBS estimates that Tesla would need to capture 75 percent of the energy storage market in 2020 to utilize its planned storage capacity.
Here are five takeaways from UBS’s bearish note on Tesla’s prospects.
* Tesla would need to grow its luxury car market share from 0.6 percent today to 8.5 percent by 2020, making it six times larger than Porsche, twice as large as Lexus and just behind Audi and BMW in terms of annual sales. “These automakers will not cede share easily,” says the note.
* UBS’s best-case scenario, based on the company's projected future sales and profit margins, suggests the company's 12-month stock price should be $300, or roughly $31 less than the current stock price. The downside scenario, where future sales and profit margins are less than expected, would put the company's 12-month price at $48 a share, way under its current price.
* The company’s current stock price assumes it will be selling 1.5 million cars and using all of its battery production capacity annually by 2025. UBS believes this is “unlikely.”
* To sell 1.5 million cars by 2025 “would require adding two more assembly plants and probably two more gigafactories” at a cost of $6 billion to $9 billion.
* Early orders for Tesla’s Powerwall and Powerpack energy storage units are misleading. “Customers did not put down deposits, so these are just solicitations of interest,” says the report. Early adopters will drive up initial orders, but making a leap to the mass market will be a big challenge.
I agree that the firm is overvalued. I however feel that the error of UBS is valuing this company as an Automotive company rather than a tech stock. So meh...I still wouldnt bother shorting this. It's like valuing Amazon the same way you value Walmart....the market will punish you for doing such a thing.
By Angelo Young @angeloyoung_ a.young@ibtimes.com on July 21 2015 12:30 PM EDT
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Visitors walk to the booth of U.S. electric carmaker Tesla Motors, during the Geneva Car Show on March 4, 2015. Tesla Motors shares plummeted Tuesday after UBS recommended that investors sell the company’s stock. Fabrice Coffrini/AFP/Getty Images
Tesla Motors Inc. (Nasdaq:TSLA) shares hit their second-highest price on record this week, but a prominent Wall Street analyst says it's now time to sell. The research unit of the Swiss bank UBS is casting doubt on the Model S luxury electric carmaker's ability to meet its 2015 sales targets for cars and electricity-storage units.
“We expect both storage and auto volume growth to disappoint,” UBS' Colin Langan, wrote in a research note released early Tuesday. The equities analyst downgraded the stock's rating from Neutral to Sell and lowered its 12-month price target from $220 to $210 per share.
Tesla's shares fell 4.72 percent to $268.95 after the downgrade.
The news came days after CEO Elon Musk introduced new Model S options and said the upcoming Model X crossover SUV was “on track” to start delivering the vehicles to pre-order customers in September. Tesla shares hit an all-time high of $286.04 on Sept. 4, 2014, when the company announced the location of its “gigafactory” battery plant near Reno, Nevada.
Earlier this year, Tesla unveiled its Powerwall and Powerpack energy storage systems for home, business, utility and off-grid purposes. The Nevada gigafactory is being constructed to produce 35 gigawatt hours (GWh) of battery storage capacity, including 15 GWh for energy storage. (One GWh is a standard energy measurement that represents 1 million kilowatt hours; a high-end Model S uses a 90 kWh battery pack.) UBS estimates that Tesla would need to capture 75 percent of the energy storage market in 2020 to utilize its planned storage capacity.
Here are five takeaways from UBS’s bearish note on Tesla’s prospects.
* Tesla would need to grow its luxury car market share from 0.6 percent today to 8.5 percent by 2020, making it six times larger than Porsche, twice as large as Lexus and just behind Audi and BMW in terms of annual sales. “These automakers will not cede share easily,” says the note.
* UBS’s best-case scenario, based on the company's projected future sales and profit margins, suggests the company's 12-month stock price should be $300, or roughly $31 less than the current stock price. The downside scenario, where future sales and profit margins are less than expected, would put the company's 12-month price at $48 a share, way under its current price.
* The company’s current stock price assumes it will be selling 1.5 million cars and using all of its battery production capacity annually by 2025. UBS believes this is “unlikely.”
* To sell 1.5 million cars by 2025 “would require adding two more assembly plants and probably two more gigafactories” at a cost of $6 billion to $9 billion.
* Early orders for Tesla’s Powerwall and Powerpack energy storage units are misleading. “Customers did not put down deposits, so these are just solicitations of interest,” says the report. Early adopters will drive up initial orders, but making a leap to the mass market will be a big challenge.
I agree that the firm is overvalued. I however feel that the error of UBS is valuing this company as an Automotive company rather than a tech stock. So meh...I still wouldnt bother shorting this. It's like valuing Amazon the same way you value Walmart....the market will punish you for doing such a thing.
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
look at VXX today. market is down and VXX is down today as well. august futures prices way too high to make any money in this etf anytime soon.