Blasian pizzeria owner gets accused of false flagging

[13473]

Why are you only looking at #1 and ignoring #2/3

If Logic's father is Black, and Logic identifies as Black, and society treats Logic as if he were Black, then why wouldn't he be Black? Let me go back to that James Baldwin quote:

"He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

You want to dispute Baldwin and claim, "But then some 1/64th Black person could call himself Black!" No, he wouldn't, not unless society recognized him as Black and he had lived the Black experience in the USA. Why would you try to claim that someone who had a Black parent, who identified as Black, and who had lived the Black experience in the USA....somehow isn't Black? What do you gain by excluding them from the community that their own life experience has placed them in?

my argument was addressing your logic. this has more logical fallacies.

no opinion was stated. your logic was pointed out

 

[Professor Emeritus]

my argument was addressing your logic. this has more logical fallacies.

If you think you have a clearer idea of the definition of Blackness than James Baldwin, you're basically saying that being born Black to a Black man, affirming your own Blackness, living the Black experience in America and fighting for your own Black community still doesn't make you black. But you haven't said why your version is more correct than his or even defined what line you're excluding other Black folk by.

no opinion was stated. your logic was pointed out

But you didn't address my logic. You only looked at one criteria and ignored the other two. If one criteria was supposed to work in isolation then there would have been no need for 3 criteria.

 

[13473]

But you didn't address my logic. You only looked at one criteria and ignored the other two. If one criteria was supposed to work in isolation then there would have been no need for 3 criteria.

Yes, I did. you simply read over/dismissed my point & jumped to lots of conclusions about my personal stance that ftr was unstated in my response.

I will address your other points, but let's address the first one

first, what are u meaning by has a black parent? Let's say someone like Drake can say yes to all 3. Drake is a black man then. No one can tell him different according to your post. Okay. That's fine. So that means someone like his son Adonis can say yes to point #1? If not, why is drake considered black but not black when it comes to point #1?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Yes, I did. you simply read over/dismissed my point & jumped to lots of conclusions about my personal stance that ftr was unstated in my response.

I will address your other points, but let's address the first one

first, what are u meaning by has a black parent? Let's say someone like Drake can say yes to all 3. Drake is a black man then. No one can tell him different according to your post. Okay. That's fine. So that means someone like his son Adonis can say yes to point #1? If not, why is drake considered black but not black when it comes to point #1?

If a man is Black, then that man's son has a Black father. That's pretty obvious. You're just wasting time right now.

 

[13473]

If you think you have a clearer idea of the definition of Blackness than James Baldwin, you're basically saying that being born Black to a Black man, affirming your own Blackness, living the Black experience in America and fighting for your own Black community still doesn't make you black. But you haven't said why your version is more correct than his or even defined what line you're excluding other Black folk by.
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again u are missing my point. i have not presented a single definition of blackness in this thread. i pointed out the flaw in low of YOUR definition - i didn't even say i disagreed with your final conclusion of them being black or not. i said your argument made no sense.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

again u are missing my point. i have not presented a single definition of blackness in this thread. i pointed out the flaw in low of YOUR definition - i didn't even say i disagreed with your final conclusion of them being black or not. i said your argument made no sense.

Do you just like listening to yourself talk? You just keep repeating yourself and you're still not saying anything. You haven't pointed out any flaws at all, you just tried to use 1 of the 3 rules in isolation when rules don't work that way. If a rule could be used in isolation then there wouldn't be a need for more than 1 rule.

 

[13473]

Do you just like listening to yourself talk? You just keep repeating yourself and you're still not saying anything. You haven't pointed out any flaws at all, you just tried to use 1 of the 3 rules in isolation when rules don't work that way. If a rule could be used in isolation then there wouldn't be a need for more than 1 rule.

literally the first thing i said to you was "your definition of black relies on a definition of black." that addressed my point. your criteria included circular reasoning. i'm pretty sure when u look up something in the dictionary u do not intend to see the actual word you're looking up in the definition. i gave u an example why that isn't logical that you took to be my argument, then u continued bringing up james baldwin while claiming that you were logical



i asked the other question to confirm whether or not the "black" in your criteria points listed included predominantly white people since u seemed to dismiss the idea someone 1/64 black would fit your list. @ the bolded sorry for getting on your nerves i'll end the conversation.

 

[KingFreeman]

The only race where a mixed person is automatically considered fully part of the group. Try that with a predom white family and watch what the kids go through

 

[lochead]

This 'half and half equals Black' was a bad idea from the start.
Now you can see why..

You can blame cac’s for that

 

[get these nets]

The only race where a mixed person is automatically considered fully part of the group. Try that with a predom white family and watch what the kids go through

The man in your avi with his biracial girlfriend

After screaming on Quincy Jones for serial pawging.


Do you consider Kidada Jones Black? Or was Tupac pawging here too?

 

[ultraflexed]

The man in your avi with his biracial girlfriend

After screaming on Quincy Jones for serial pawging.


Do you consider Kidada Jones Black? Or was Tupac pawging here too?

I consider her what she is = biracial, dna wise she probably more white then black being that Quincy's father was biracial.

 

[KingFreeman]

The man in your avi with his biracial girlfriend

After screaming on Quincy Jones for serial pawging.


Do you consider Kidada Jones Black? Or was Tupac pawging here too?

Biracial like you said. Don't leave out the white family

 

[Peter Popoff]

#StopAsianHate

 

[ultraflexed]

#Stopblackfacefraud

Fixed

 

[Dad]

I don’t see anything wrong with this tweet