Blasian pizzeria owner gets accused of false flagging

[pickles]

I dont have social media, and I dont mind paying as long as its good

I don't have social media either.

You don't even have to be a follower or be on instagram

Just check the page.

 

[Back4The1stTime]

If she’s biracial. Big IF. She can identify as black. She can identify as Asian. She is both things. Is Tiger Woods not a black man?

Tiger never consider himself black.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

THIS LOOKS LIKE A BLACK WOMAN
WITH CHINKY EYES.

People really gotta stop using this term on 2021

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If she’s biracial. She can identify as black. She can identify as Asian. She is both things. Is Tiger Woods not a black man?

She got the same mix I do. I feel her pain. fukk em. Do you shorty. You already know how it goes.

Yeah, I've known at least 10 people with Blasian background in my life and I don't know a single one who didn't identify as Black. Maybe that's because I was living in Black communities not Asian communities, but you look even at people who didn't grow up in Black communities like Tiger Woods, Hines Ward, Kamala Harris and they clearly were seen by American society as Black before they were seen as Asian.

The only thing i'll say is black people, specifically black-americans, should definitely be "policing" who can and can not call themselves some "black-owned" shyt in America. Some of yall sat up here damn near high-fiving when them Jews pulled up on Nick Cannon because he said "we the real jews" (or something like that). Nobody was crying about them policing shyt, it was celebrated on some "see how united they are" shyt. Black people try to start asking questions and verifying if some restaurant is really black-owned and people start talking about "militants". This is how it should be. People shouldn't be allowed, on a social level, to just make money off of our emotional connection to blackness without it being verified.

Agreed. The issue is when every random online militant makes up new rules on the fly.

Here are some of the rules I've heard on The Coli:

Your dad has to be Black but your mom doesn't
Your mom has to be Black but your dad doesn't
Both parents have to be Black
You have to be at least 50% Black (genetically I guess? even though there's no definitive definition of "Black" in genetics anyway...).
You have to be at least 70% Black
You have to look Black enough
It depends on who you choose to marry

By some of those rules, the following people aren't Black:


Mary Ellen Pleasant

Frederick Douglass

Booker T. Washington:

Charles Drew

John P. Davis

Jimi Hendrix

Bob Marley

James Earl Jones

Louis Farrakhan

Barack Obama:

Even the militants making the new rules wouldn't be able to tell you which ones were "Black" and which aren't. Frederick Douglas looks undoubtedly Black and grew up as a slave in Maryland, yet he had only one partially-Black parent and was well under 50% Black by their supposed "genetic" definition. Charles Drew looks mostly White to my eyes yet both of his parents identified as Black, he worked at Howard, he was involved in the NAACP, he was refused membership into the American Medical Association because he was Black, and he resigned from the American Red Cross because they insisted that Black blood donations be separated from White blood donations.



John P. Davis probably could have passed as white but he had Black parents, grew up in segregated black schools, was literary editor for The Crisis, worked at Fisk, was executive secretary of the JCNR, was one of the original founders of the National Negro Congress, brought the very first lawsuit challenging school segregation in D.C. (on behalf of his own son), was founding publisher of Our World, was the editor of the American Negro Reference Book, and was head of the US delegation at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists. Something James Baldwin said about Davis is worth repeating here:

When The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

So who gets to decide what Black is, are we supposed to ignore James Baldwin and listen to Coli online militants instead?

 

[spliz]

Tiger never consider himself black.

But society damn sure did. And celebrated/shytted on him as such as well.

 

[Luke Cage]

She don’t have to open a soul food(just cause u black don’t mean u auto like soul food) restaurant but she damn sure should have black employees.

you right, that was just an example i was making

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Tiger never consider himself black.

That's not true. There were times when he focused on his mixed ancestry but other times when he definitely considered himself Black.


Woods was a 14-year-old prodigy when an interviewer asked him about his goals as a golfer. Woods answered that he wanted to be a superstar. “Since I’m black, I might even be bigger than Jack Nicklaus,” he said. “I might be even bigger than him, to the blacks. I might be sort of like a Michael Jordan in basketball.”

Asked whether there was a tournament that he wanted to win once he turned professional, Woods did not hesitate. “The Masters,” he said.

Why?

“The way blacks have been treated there. [Like] they shouldn’t be there,” he said. “If I win that tournament, it will be really big for us.”

But society damn sure did. And celebrated/shytted on him as such as well.

Yup

Woods has said he also faced racial hostility back when he started school in Orange County, California. On his first day of kindergarten, he said, a group of sixth-graders tied him to a tree, spray painted the N-word on him and then threw rocks at him. He said his teacher “didn’t do much of anything” about the assault. The former teacher has dismissed the story, which Woods has recounted in several interviews, saying it never happened.

Through the years, Woods has paid tribute to the black pros who paved the way before him: Lee Elder, Teddy Rhodes, Bill Spiller, Calvin Peete, and most of all, the late Charlie Sifford, the first African-American to play on the PGA Tour. Woods would refer to Sifford as his grandfather and went on to name his son, Charlie Axel, after the golfing pioneer.

Tiger Woods can call himself what he wants to call himself -- to most of America, he's black," said Karen Narasaki, executive director of the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium. "Asian-American groups have thought to give him awards, but as far as I know he hasn't showed up to pick one up."

Woods, she notes, has shown up to receive awards from African-American organizations.

" Woods has since released a statement proclaiming that he is "equally proud to be both African-American and Asian.




And when he came up and did win The Masters, remember how they treated him?

“He’s doing quite well, pretty impressive. That little boy is driving well and he’s putting well. He’s doing everything it takes to win,” Zoeller said of Woods. “So, you know what you guys do when he gets in here? You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not to serve fried chicken next year. Got it. Or collard greens or whatever the hell they serve.”

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Black Americans following the world when it comes to judging and determining blackness is silly, given our history, and would be a mistake.

Folks are determined, for whatever reason, to cut our numbers down even further.

 

[8WON6]

Yeah, I've known at least 10 people with Blasian background in my life and I don't know a single one who didn't identify as Black. Maybe that's because I was living in Black communities not Asian communities, but you look even at people who didn't grow up in Black communities like Tiger Woods, Hines Ward, Kamala Harris and they clearly were seen by American society as Black before they were seen as Asian.




Agreed. The issue is when every random online militant makes up new rules on the fly.

Here are some of the rules I've heard on The Coli:

Your dad has to be Black but your mom doesn't
Your mom has to be Black but your dad doesn't
Both parents have to be Black
You have to be at least 50% Black (genetically I guess? even though there's no definitive definition of "Black" in genetics anyway...).
You have to be at least 70% Black
You have to look Black enough
It depends on who you choose to marry

By some of those rules, the following people aren't Black:


Mary Ellen Pleasant

Frederick Douglass

Booker T. Washington:

Charles Drew

John P. Davis

Jimi Hendrix

Bob Marley

James Earl Jones

Louis Farrakhan

Barack Obama:

Even the militants making the new rules wouldn't be able to tell you which ones were "Black" and which aren't. Frederick Douglas looks undoubtedly Black and grew up as a slave in Maryland, yet he had only one partially-Black parent and was well under 50% Black by their supposed "genetic" definition. Charles Drew looks mostly White to my eyes yet both of his parents identified as Black, he worked at Howard, he was involved in the NAACP, he was refused membership into the American Medical Association because he was Black, and he resigned from the American Red Cross because they insisted that Black blood donations be separated from White blood donations.



John P. Davis probably could have passed as white but he had Black parents, grew up in segregated black schools, was literary editor for The Crisis, worked at Fisk, was executive secretary of the JCNR, was one of the original founders of the National Negro Congress, brought the very first lawsuit challenging school segregation in D.C. (on behalf of his own son), was founding publisher of Our World, was the editor of the American Negro Reference Book, and was head of the US delegation at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists. Something James Baldwin said about Davis is worth repeating here:


So who gets to decide what Black is, are we supposed to ignore James Baldwin and listen to Coli online militants instead?

most of these people come from a time when the social-rules were simpler and people weren't playing fast and loose with "black" and "biracial" or whatever their other side(s) is. And you didn't have the complexities of non-black people or biracial people using "black" to sell products or collect donations. But in 2021, some of these situations would have to be case by case due to race-mixing (and i hate using that phrase because it sounds ).

One thing i do know for sure is when it's something negative everybody is quick to label a mixed person as black. And black people have to eat that failure or that negative stat.

 

[Peak]

Chick about to hit the

This clip never fails to make me laugh. That smirk

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

Black Americans following the world when it comes to judging and determining blackness is silly, given our history, and would be a mistake.

Folks are determined, for whatever reason, to cut our numbers down even further.

That is a pretty silly premise. Why add folks who dont even want to be included?

Some of ya'll are so eager to welcome people who generally don't consider themselves 'black' until its convenient (as many have already mentioned). These people add very little value to our cause, and in many cases, their presence can be insidious.

 

[DrBanneker]

This whole article sounds like a Coli thread twist from a troll poster 2hrs after the original thread flops.






But in all seriousness , this topic is typical divide and conquer, trying to get black people to attack ourselves, rather than progress forwards and outwards. It’s actually a decent pattern weve seen from the dominant society. They do this especially after a period of black unity and protest. They did it in 92’ after the Rodney king protests. Multiple white owned publications from the NYT, to theBaltimore sun to the WashPost started printing nonesense about “what does it mean to be black?” Or “racial confusion within black society” or even whether black people could decide these things for themselves. Keep in mind that the SF chronicle (where @Get These Nets article came from) is also a white owned media outlet. The editors got a puppet to write this thing out for them cause cacs couldn’t do it themselves.


They also signal boosted MJ’s “black or white” (from the prior year 1991) and MJ’s own brand of weirdness after Rodney King protests , the same way they are currently highlighting that mixed nfl player. It’s the same WS playbook. Wash rinse and repeat.




It bothers me that black people are still repeating history nearly 2 generations later. Cause when we are talking about this, nobody is talking about building

Yeah, I have literally known at least a dozen Blasian people from college and career and never have I once heard anyone question their Blackness. Hell, almost all of them had Black SOs and spouses.

That some lame Negro did this in Cali of all places too. Probably 50% of Blasians are out there.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

most of these people come from a time when the social-rules were simpler and people weren't playing fast and loose with "black" and "biracial" or whatever their other side(s) is. And you didn't have the complexities of non-black people or biracial people using "black" to sell products or collect donations. But in 2021, some of these situations would have to be case by case due to race-mixing (and i hate using that phrase because it sounds ).

One thing i do know for sure is when it's something negative everybody is quick to label a mixed person as black. And black people have to eat that failure or that negative stat.

If the definition of Black changes over time then it's definitely a social construct. And I agree on that.

To evaluate on a "case by case basis", you have to agree on the rules. And to me at least these rules make the most sense. No one else has to take my definition for it, but this seems to be what makes someone Black in America.

1. Is one of your parents Black?
2. Do you identify as Black?
3. Has society treated you as Black?

If you say yes to those three questions, then I don't see how someone else can come in and say you ain't Black. Maybe you yourself can turn around one day and claim you ain't Black, but if you have a Black parent and grew up Black as a kid and society treated you as Black then whatever you say as an adult only carries so much weight.

 

[8WON6]

If the definition of Black changes over time then it's definitely a social construct. And I agree on that.

To evaluate on a "case by case basis", you have to agree on the rules. And to me at least these rules make the most sense. No one else has to take my definition for it, but this seems to be what makes someone Black in America.

1. Is one of your parents Black?
2. Do you identify as Black?
3. Has society treated you as Black?

If you say yes to those three questions, then I don't see how someone else can come in and say you ain't Black. Maybe you yourself can turn around one day and claim you ain't Black, but if you have a Black parent and grew up Black as a kid and society treated you as Black then whatever you say as an adult only carries so much weight.

i could agree to those and
4. do you have a consistent history of identifying as black.

and i'm saying this just about people trying to make money off of their blackness as a public figure or running a business labeled "black owned" in the attempt to gain black customers.

 

[Deuterion]

i could agree to those and
4. do you have a consistent history of identifying as black.

and i'm saying this just about people trying to make money off of their blackness as a public figure or running a business labeled "black owned" in the attempt to gain black customers.

‘Yup. We need to look at actions too... looking at skin color and parentage has allowed snakes to get into the mix. If both parents are black but you marry white and have all white employees...you effectively white at that point. Kamala Harris is a good example...