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You cant get a proper perspective with photo manipulation, above is his son. Secondly, youre conflating the term black with african, astronesians are black, african is a meaningless term and jthey are just the remannt of the lost natural diversity the human genome is capable of though epigentic changer rather than the modern brought on through miscegenation. Above is an exmaple of such, so his below which is Hawaii, in pure genetic expression. Not african but hawaiin, whom shared a simialr expression in appearance though would have been geenticcaly different despite convergence in phenotype.

No, dude. When it comes to the New World, "African" is super meaningful. Black as defined now, is connected to having African ancestry. What defines you as a preto, negro, black, in the new world, is your African ancestry, that is mostly from West and Central Africa. Then, what makes you, part of your ethnic group, is the colonial and post-colonial experience in specific regions of the new world. For instance, native Americans went through the colonial American experience, but are not African Americans because they don't have African DNA. Haitians went through the colonial experience in the new world, have African DNA, but are not Black Brazilians or Black Americans, because their experience was in a completely different place in the new world. And vice-versa.

The only place I've seen, with different dynamics, is Mexico. Where the term prietos(black) is applied to indigenous looking people and also to Afro-Mexicans(Because most are already mixed with Indigenous peoples from there).







The dude you posted looks like the average Tongan. I didn't really manipulate anything, just colorized the pic.








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That is the natural and only expression in the human genome, the old world was largely uniform is appearance, the minute changes are largely insignificant compared to the modern world where the human genome has been comprimises and forced to accomodate the "other" with faulty rules of classification. This extends to the americas as weel, the people you speak of are not natives but are migrants from the siberian penisula, they are mongoloid that adopted the culture and customs of the natives , accounting for gentic exchange as well.

This dude also looks like the real native Hawaiians, that are still around. They are austronesians as well.



 

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Lmao, wasn't like last year that he implied that he is jewish or comes from a jewish lineage? :dahell:




Dude, please, research more, and if possible, travel(not only for tourism) more..Both Tupous look like the range you see with Austronesian people.







Samoans and Filipinos are Austronesians and related. Do they look the same to you? Do Samoans have Afro DNA, since they are taller, some have type 4 hair, and are way more likely than Filipinos to develop muscle mass? Of course not. Sorry, but the black and white view of the world, doesn't make sense anymore.


So, these 2 suggested activities will teach you that being dark does not mean being of African descent, and it will also teach you, that looking like African, doesn't mean that the person is of African descent. There are black South Africans that could pass as mixed with Asians, but have zero Asian or non-African ancestry

These below, are Papuans, and I believe they could be placed in different Afro societies and actually pass as locals. Genetically and historically(Not talking about 40-50k years ago), they are still not Afro-descendants...Far from that.













Plus, some of you need to learn how to contextualize. The history of Austronesians and Native Americans, is completely different from each other. Some Austronesians look African, while some do not, despite being dark. Some of you constantly do this, where you simply discard all of the context, in order to fit with your agenda. Something that Cacs constantly do when they try to weaponize anything against black people.




Lol, they still exist, numbering millions and they don't look black. The real indigenous Americans from the US, look like the indigenous groups from Canada, Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, Guatemala, Chile etc. The issue is, they are still being ruled by the descendants of the colonizers, called Criollos, and thus, describe themselves as mestizos, in order to be socially accepted. Stop this bs. Anyone that has interacted with true indigenous Americans in the US and also traveled over Central and South American countries like Bolivia or Peru, can see that they look alike.
These are the scattered children of the Kingdom of Judah. Stop with all that cac classification. "Austronesian, Melanesian" bullsht. Their ancestors didn't go by that name.
 

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No, dude. When it comes to the New World, "African" is super meaningful. Black as defined now, is connected to having African ancestry. What defines you as a preto, negro, black, in the new world, is your African ancestry, that is mostly from West and Central Africa. Then, what makes you, part of your ethnic group, is the colonial and post-colonial experience in specific regions of the new world. For instance, native Americans went through the colonial American experience, but are not African Americans because they don't have African DNA. Haitians went through the colonial experience in the new world, have African DNA, but are not Black Brazilians or Black Americans, because their experience was in a completely different place in the new world. And vice-versa.

The only place I've seen, with different dynamics, is Mexico. Where the term prietos(black) is applied to indigenous looking people and also to Afro-Mexicans(Because most are already mixed with Indigenous peoples from there).







The dude you posted looks like the average Tongan. I didn't really manipulate anything, just colorized the pic.










This dude also looks like the real native Hawaiians, that are still around. They are austronesians as well.




You are posting mutts and pictured portrayals. I am giving a proper representation of natove phenotype sans misgentations.
Lets try it again. Pic below is a tongan woman of pure genetic expression, kosher.



yes, the term is meaningless, native africans have a higher genetic diversity intra racially than interracially, they carry the well spring of human diversity sans miscengation, largely enveloped and subsumed by a non native presence.
You are posting mutts and pictured portrayals, not relevant to the discussion. I am giving a proper representation of native phenotype sans misgentations.
Lets try it again. Pic below is a tongan woman of pure genetic expression, kosher.
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The americas was black prior to mongoloid invasion, the remnants of these people can be found in the artic regions where the inuit roam, the squatting faction that decided to move in land are the people are you reffering to. The indio phenotype (pic beelow)
is a product of black natives mixing with these mongolid visitors, this phenotype doesnt exist outside of thsi context and obvsiouly this is pre colombian presense for many centuries before aanother remant of actual africans were brotught over


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Do you think the average black person in the diaspora is proud of being of African descent?

From my experience, it depends on the ethnic group. There are ethnic groups in the new world, that are comprised mostly of people that are super proud of their African ancestry, then you have ethnic groups that the majority is just okay with it. I don't know any racially black group, in the new world, where the majority is just full of self-hate...What I've noticed is, the self-haters are usually super loud about it, but they are not the majority, not even close to that. And, many of us have no issues with dismissing every logical component, when analyzing other black people. We don't care about stats and studies anymore, it is just "Look at this black person from this ethnic group saying this...It is how they all think. shyt, I can find you 5 or 10 more people from this ethnic group saying this, and it proves my point."

Because, in reality, how do we quantify the average without specific studies, and so many distinct groups and different experiences? With many that don't even speak English at all. People, here, inside this platform, are mostly connected to the Anglo-world, where everything is in English. How many here have traveled to a city where Afro-Colombians are the majority to see how proud or not they are on their African roots? How many have interacted with a range of different Afro-Cubans? Afro-Brazilians? Haitians? How many studies did they read, that are focused on this?

Some of us have been completely manipulated, that we can't even see how problematic it is, the way we also engage in the simplification of ourselves, identities and experiences. Propaganda, is always based on simplifying complex subjects as much as possible. And many of us lack the ability to easily separate reality from propaganda.
 
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yes, the term is meaningless, your enot pinnin the tail on that donkey, native africans have a higher genetic diversity intra racially than interracially, they carry the well spring of human diversity sans miscengation, largely enveloped and subsumed by a non native presence.
You are posting mutts and pictured portrayals, not relevant to the discussion. I am giving a proper representation of native phenotype sans misgentations.
Lets try it again. Pic below is a tongan woman of pure genetic expression, kosher.
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The americas was black prior to mongoloid invasion, the remnants of these people can be found in the artic regions where the inuit roam, the squatting faction that decided to move in land are the people are you reffering to. The indio phenotype (pic beelow)
is a product of black natives mixing with these mongolid visitors, this phenotype doesnt exist outside of thsi context and obvsiouly this is pre colombian presense for many centuries before aanother remant of actual africans were brotught over


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Okay, cool. When did black people arrive then? And when did the mongoloid invasion happen? Can you give me specific timelines?




Because you can find faces like these above all over the indigenous peoples in the entire Americas...
 
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These are the scattered children of the Kingdom of Judah. Stop with all that cac classification. "Austronesian, Melanesian" bullsht. Their ancestors didn't go by that name.
They didn't go by 'Children of Judah', either, since those are English terms created by, you guessed it, CACs....

 

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Okay, cool. When did black people arrive then? And when did the mongoloid invasion happen? Can you give me specific timelines?




Because you can find faces like these below, all over the indigenous peoples in the entire Americas...


corrrect, those are mongoloids with native admixture, not natural fauna of the american continent, timelines are amorphous since coventional science considers the species a million years old when that is purposeful misinformation. Pic below is what actual natives resembled, actual self depcitions in their art found in monuments. Non -Mongolid, but black, this range in phneotype is not possible in the genome of the other, they are the product of these people and the migrants that came and later occupied the land, creating the indio classificatiom not too dissimar from the creation of the sea asian identity

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I mean, that's true, but I don't see the point in talking about it. You won't change minds :yeshrug:
 

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Its so sad, how little people know about the History off these United States
 

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Y’all do know Africans traveled to the Americas.

It’s documented that Africans been here since the 1500’s.

There have always been colonies of free blacks that blended with native Americans. Especially in coastal areas.
The Atlantic slave trade had already started in the 1500s so of course africans were in the americas by then
 

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Native Americans owned black slaves as well.
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Native Americans did mix with some blacks, this resulted called "Zambo". The Black Seminoles are a result of this ancestral mixture. This is also common in Central America.
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On Youtube, there's a lot of misinformation. Unfortunately, a lot of black folks are being gullible to this ignorance. The lack of scientific evidence and geographic knowledge is alarming. We have black folks saying "Trans Alantic Slave Trade was a hoax":childplease:



Native Americans​

Native Americans are mongoloids, they are not black. The study of phenotype vs genotype is essential. Phenotype are your observation traits such as physical characteristics -- skin tone, nose, facial shape etc.

Most of their brown pigmentation came from mixing with Denisovans
Mysterious Denisovan Genes Found in Native Americans

Denisovans were an extinct species of ancient humans that occupied Eurasia.

This is how Denisovans looked
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Native Americans came from two migrations: Siberia (East Asia) and Southeast Asia

https://www.science.org/content/art...enes-traveled-back-siberia-new-genomes-reveal
Native American Ancestors Came From Asia In Three Migrations

The first migration was through the Land Bridge towards North and Central America. The second migration sailed to the Caribbean (Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Haiti etc.) These end up being the Arawak, Taino indians.

Caribbean Blacks also have a certain % of Native American DNA.

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Most Native Americans look like this
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Self haters are the loudest ones. They're mostly operating out of emotion instead of rationality.

The Out of Africa theory has never been disproven.
 
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