"Black Women Won't Date Brothas That LIKE Trans Women, Transphobic" - Angelica Ross ('Pose' Actress)

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How did BW become the target here?

A lot of black women are stupid. In a misguided attempt to extend the boundaries of their fight for acceptance to all marginalized groups accept curiously their own race of men b/c ya know that would sound too much like common sense, these LBTGXYZ caping hoes brought this shyt on themselves.

I have to disagree with you and this statement.

It's not even "a lot of Black women" -- nor wouldn't I call the few who do stupid -- I would call them victims of White Supremacy.

Most Black women are not fighting for acceptance for all marginalize groups.

BW nor Black womanhood as a collective have NEVER been on that -- we have been on -- fighting for our god-given rights/protection and what's due to us as Black people -- meaning Black man, Black woman, Black child -- our Black communities.

We have always been on BW and BM -- not on some just BW forget about BM ish. It's been about BM, BW, BC - since we were brought to this country.

Now, if that means as a BM or BW -- if their child is gay -- then most still want them to be treated right -- whether they agree with their sexual lifestyle or not. Also, some BW are Gay/Lesbian -- and want to live their lives with those same rights/protections -- therefore they are taking up for themselves.

But, really -- what large segment -- or even a noticeable amount of BW out here "caping" like that? Most BW -- young and old -- are not with this ish -- and very vocal about it.

And please let a bytch pretend like they don't know what the hell im talking about. Blk women haven't won the fight for their own concept of womanhood to positively exist, and yet many have become mouthpieces for communities that will gladly hang you from a tree too if it means White acceptance, and at the very least will further attack your womanhood by associating your femininity necessarily with masculine energy.

Well..this bytch don't know what you talking about....

Cause Black women, IMO have won our own fight for womanhood to positively exist --whether others choose to accept or highlight it. Sure, it's not highlighted as much as white womanhood -- but that is because of the WS system and media.

I don't see examples of "masculinity" by BW on display for "White acceptance."

Positively viewed Black womanhood is very well in-tact -- I was raised surrounded by it, I live it 24/7 and see it daily in my family, friends, and content I choose to consume and visit. I would say the same for Black manhood.

The same loud minority of blacks who continue to drive our image in all forms of media while all the other blk women you listed go unacknowledged by the masses.

At some point we can't rely on the cult of the blk woman to keep us from pointing out the obvious. On Twitter, there are countless chicks who are rah rah mouthpieces for anything alternatively sexual, are anti-anything blk male and yet curiously silent when it comes to white indiscretions beyond culturally appropriating a braided hairstyle.

The homosexual community itself is a caricature of black female cultural stereotypes that they appropriated from blk women with nary a peep of acknowledgement.

That same homosexual community is rife with racism that they obscure with their own "struggle". Meanwhile when blk women need something we literally are all we got and have to constantly remind all interest groups of this even since the onset of blk womanism.

But here's what I see as real as I can tell it from my observations. One part of this is that A lot of blk women support homosexuality out of enmity against blk men. It's less about supporting gay rights and more about attacking straight blk males who have hurt them.

But this enemy's enemy is my friend bullshyt doesn't work like that. The association of blk women with the homosexual community is used as a way to further undermine the image of blk femininity. Peep the uptick of representations of blk women as bisexual or gay sidekicks in various shows. While Carrie Bradshaw's happily ever after is a white prince in her own race, Nola Darling's happy ending is with a dyke. Seems petty and we can be stupid enough to be dismissive of little shyt like this but in our current society of sheeple, life imitates art as we are being socially conditioned to further associate normative heterosexual conception of happy, carefree black women either with other women or white men.

The other part of this are the fact that blacks wholesale have an Achilles heel in that we have souls which makes it difficult for us to hate people wholesale. Blacks are accepting of all groups. There is a reason why civil rights starts with us. Unfortunately this penchant for giving a damn about people has been shown to be exploitable.

Instead of wanting a seat at the table, blk women have made a table for themselves. Hell the table barely standing and already their pride, resentment, and brainwashing is making many amenable to allowing snakes to sit with them.

And no. None of this means I'm homophobic or have any hate for their community. But blk chicks trying to shame heterosexual black females into accepting black men who fukk trannies when we already struggling with STDs and caricatures working against traditional black manhood as well is pretty fukking stupid.

To be honest, I'm not sure why what I'm saying is even incendiary. shyt just too obvious to me.
And as soon as a young black girl expresses a desire to see positive representation of a normal black female romantic experience with one of her own, those same jokers at her table will be close enough to fukk her over.
Wanna see blk love? You closed-minded. A pick me.
Wanna see a normal heterosexual romance coming of age story? You a cis-gendered yadda, yadda, yadda.

This shyt ain't in my head.

 

[Gold]

you dont feel that way bc you dont run in those circles or know people in them.

black women arent making company policies and laws/precedents for white men to feel free to dress like women. you see black women on twitter and protests and think they are the ones signings papers for some reason and attributing your anger over another persons ability to exercise their choices to them.

I'm not angry about anything. Once you again you seem to not be able to understand the definition of the word "co-opt"
Usually its people in power who co-opt the movement and voices of those without power.

That's... kinda how co-opting works.

Everything you just said bolsters my point.. once again.

tweets contain words, correct? you were referencing the op tweet? + how else are people supposedly starting to question their sexuality in your opinion? its only words and actions my g and people arent being raped out of their sexuality.

"Tweets contain words correct?"
Yes, which is why I tried to draw your attention back to words actually stated in the tweet.
But since you feel adamant on discussing your strawman and ignoring what i've said, i'll leave you to it.
You can be as obstinate as you want.

No one is talking about "raping" people out of their sexuality
No one is talking about tweeting at someone to make them "gay"

I specifically said "guilt" and "shame" into being more accepting.
Which is exactly the purpose of the tweet in the OP.

You dont want to discuss that tweet, you want to keep going off the deep end with your strawman.

That's cool with me, do you.

no. this is what you said.


"That's how they get ya'll. Issa fukking setup.
Now that the narrative has been set, you HAVE to be accepting of it "

and i kindly pointed out to you that this is not the narrative. only you, the imaginary white woman from your post and the transwoman in the op have demonstrated these feels that you CHOSE to conjure up and that individual black women are free to accept who they want and fukk who they want and the two are not connected just like they wouldnt be for any man or woman of any other race.

again

I didn't mean that literally.
But if i'm going to concede any point, it would be this one. You dont have to accept it, I was being somewhat facetious/dramatic.

And yes I would use that same tone if the genders were reversed.

Hell i'm pretty sure i've said something similar about men this week

 

[xoxodede]

The same loud minority of blacks who continue to drive our image in all forms of media while all the other blk women you listed go unacknowledged by the masses.

At some point we can't rely on the cult of the blk woman to keep us from pointing out the obvious. On Twitter, there are countless chicks who are rah rah mouthpieces for anything alternatively sexual, are anti-anything blk male and yet curiously silent when it comes to white indiscretions beyond culturally appropriating a braided hairstyle.

The homosexual community itself is a caricature of black female cultural stereotypes that they appropriated from blk women with nary a peep of acknowledgement.

That same homosexual community is rife with racism that they obscure with their own "struggle". Meanwhile when blk women need something we literally are all we got and have to constantly remind all interest groups of this even since the onset of blk womanism.

But here's what I see as real as I can tell it from my observations. One part of this is that A lot of blk women support homosexuality out of enmity against blk men. It's less about supporting gay rights and more about attacking straight blk males who have hurt them.

But this enemy's enemy is my friend bullshyt doesn't work like that. The association of blk women with the homosexual community is used as a way to further undermine the image of blk femininity. Peep the uptick of representations of blk women as bisexual or gay sidekicks in various shows. While Carrie Bradshaw's happily ever after is a white prince in her own race, Nola Darling's happy ending is with a dyke. Seems petty and we can be stupid enough to be dismissive of little shyt like this but in our current society of sheeple, life imitates art as we are being socially conditioned to further associate normative heterosexual conception of happy, carefree black women either with other women or white men.

The other part of this are the fact that blacks wholesale have an Achilles heel in that we have souls which makes it difficult for us to hate people wholesale. Blacks are accepting of all groups. There is a reason why civil rights starts with us. Unfortunately this penchant for giving a damn about people has been shown to be exploitable.

Instead of wanting a seat at the table, blk women have made a table for themselves. Hell the table barely standing and already their pride, resentment, and brainwashing is making many amenable to allowing snakes to sit with them.

And no. None of this means I'm homophobic or have any hate for their community. But blk chicks trying to shame heterosexual black females into accepting black men who fukk trannies when we already struggling with STDs and caricatures working against traditional black manhood as well is pretty fukking stupid.

To be honest, I'm not sure why what I'm saying is even incendiary. shyt just too obvious to me.
And as soon as a young black girl expresses a desire to see positive representation of a normal black female romantic experience with one of her own, those same jokers at her table will be close enough to fukk her over.
Wanna see blk love? You closed-minded. A pick me.
Wanna see a normal heterosexual romance coming of age story? You a cis-gendered yadda, yadda, yadda.

This shyt ain't in my head.

I get what you are saying but.....nah.

BW aint the issue here.

 

[GoldCoastSaint]

the day has finally come.

the more mainstream gay/trans lifestyles and cultures are getting, people had to know this was coming

black women do NOT play this shyt on any level. Tell a sista you're talking to that you USE to or that you like trannies - you're DONE.

she could have 5 or 6 openly gay/trans friends, go to drag shows every weekend, but they ain't touching no bi-dudes

Period. Love the gays, but not fukking em.

 

[djkumbaya]

I'm not angry about anything. Once you again you seem to not be able to understand the definition of the word "co-opt"
Usually its people in power who co-opt the movement and voices of those without power.

That's... kinda how co-opting works.

Everything you just said bolsters my point.. once again.



"Tweets contain words correct?"
Yes, which is why I tried to draw your attention back to words actually stated in the tweet.
But since you feel adamant on discussing your strawman and ignoring what i've said, i'll leave you to it.
You can be as obstinate as you want.

No one is talking about "raping" people out of their sexuality
No one is talking about tweeting at someone to make them "gay"

I specifically said "guilt" and "shame" into being more accepting.
Which is exactly the purpose of the tweet in the OP.

You dont want to discuss that tweet, you want to keep going off the deep end with your strawman.

you dont know what co-opting means. black transexuals are not excluded some how from coming out. like you i said, you see TWEETS as your barometer of whats happening when clearly HR departments arent making loarge corporation changes based on a black woman's tweets instead of a white VP's ability to sue

even if this "co-opting" is the case, every black american movement have been co-opted because we are not the only ones who benefit from our fights agaisnt racism/classism/sexism/etc and often others (you arent american right?) get benefit of the work weve done. if its been "co-opted", what do you consider you and your people's rights in this country and how should black americans feel about you? keep that same energy in threads related to such on this board. just note, i dont agree with you though.

and i am discussing the tweet. in fact, originally, you were the one trying to act like your post had nothing to do with that tweet at all. "i think youu are talking to the wrong person" lol. no, i had the right one as evidence of our convo now.

finally YOU CANNOT BE SHAMED OUT OF YOUR SEXUALITY UNLESS YOU WERE ALREADY GAY

 

[Marti]

Really? I guess that's why on those recordings they always have the STD and housing shyt. Asked because I'm volunteering for an LGBT Life Center as an ally. Called and spoke to the dude again today.

Yes

A lot of trans women catch hiv when they were men and then transition into a woman as of means to start a new life

This story is very common amongst trans women

Also there not as many down low man in the black community as we are lead to think.

There’s literally one down low man fukking multiples tranny’s and women

 

[Gold]

you dont know what co-opting means. black transexuals are not excluded some how from coming out. like you i said, you see TWEETS as your barometer of whats happening when clearly HR departments arent making loarge corporation changes based on a black woman's tweets instead of a white VP's ability to sue

even if this "co-opting" is the case, every black american movement have been co-opted because we are not the only ones who benefit from our fights agaisnt racism/classism/sexism/etc and often others (you arent american right?) get benefit of the work weve done. if its been "co-opted", what do you consider you and your people's rights in this country and how should black americans feel about you? keep that same energy in threads related to such on this board. just note, i dont agree with you though.

and i am discussing the tweet. in fact, originally, you were the one trying to act like your post had nothing to do with that tweet at all. "i think youu are talking to the wrong person" lol. no, i had the right one as evidence of our convo now.

finally YOU CANNOT BE SHAMED OUT OF YOUR SEXUALITY UNLESS YOU WERE ALREADY GAY

Yeah....

Its clear you aren't reading anything i'm saying.
Or.. better yet you reading 1/4 of what i'm saying and focusing on that instead of comprehending the entire post.

And your final sentence still makes no sense because no one is talking about shaming someone into being gay.
I guess you gonna stick with that particular strawman till death do you part.
I keep trying to bring you back to the topic at hand, you keep going elsewhere because you don't want to discuss the topic at hand (i guess?)

Either way, I can only repeat my points so many times before it becomes futile.

 

[JQ Legend]

Why is it ok for trannies to only prefer biological men but wrong for men to only prefer biological women?

Aren't they discriminating against their own kind by preferring biological men over biological females that identify as men?

 

[SirReginald]

Yes

A lot of trans women catch hiv when they were men and then transition into a woman as of means to start a new life

This story is very common amongst trans women

Also there not as many down low man in the black community as we are lead to think.

There’s literally one down low man fukking multiples tranny’s and women

So, they don't 'transition' off the means of always feeling like a woman? That's what I always thought and was led to believe.

 

[djkumbaya]

Yeah....

Its clear you aren't reading anything i'm saying.
Or.. better yet you reading 1/4 of what i'm saying and focusing on that instead of comprehending the entire post..

nah. im reading very clearly. black women should stop supporting trans because its been co-opted by whites. you just dont like it when you are acknowledged for your own version of co-opting what black americans have worked for. its okay for you to be accepted because of someone else's work, but not trannies

And your final sentence still makes no sense because no one is talking about shaming someone into being gay.
I guess you gonna stick with that particular strawman till death do you part..

ok. you said "accept"

i dont get why youre so aggy about another person being seen/treated as a full human just because they are different from you and trying to extrapolate that into any other feeling/version of consent.

like seriously, who complains about someone else having rights and freedom?

what does it take away from you, someone else being accepted? i hope you dont respond with something similar to "i dont what my future kids to know about that" which again goes back to knowledge of self and knowing your sexuality enough to accept others.

 

[Black Barbie]

Op a fakkit. And why wouldnt a woman bush a nikka that fukks other men?

This.

let them fight

Sometimes I just wanna as my grandmother says "knock you for a flop [Sp?]"



Anyways I was just talking about this. I don't go along with "cis" (I know it's an actual scientific term before anybody tries it) I'm not a "cis"-woman. I am a woman with an XX chromosome, I am woman that wants a man, not a chopped and screwed "man" a biological male with an X and Y chromosome. I don't have any gay/bi friends so I don't do any of this LGBTQrstuv stuff. I had a friend who wanted to show me some drag race stuff . I don't like seeing men wear makeup.

EDIT: Because I forgot because stuff like this has me heated. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't date men who mess with other men and yes, that includes men who mutilate themselves to try and pass as real women.

 

[The Phoenix]

If you wouldnt call yourself transphobic for not dating one then why would you need to date one to prove that you are not transphobic?

I'm confused, who are you trying to prove this to if not yourself?

I never said dating one would prove that I wasn't transphobic. I just said that if I was being PC I'd probably try or to phrase it better, give it real meaningful thought. But in the end I know I wouldn't go through with it. The way I see it, not even giving it thought or considering it, would be signs of a phobia. Understanding myself and knowing that just isn't my preference isn't.

 

[Elle Driver]

This is ridiculous.

 

[Gold]

I never said dating one would prove that I wasn't transphobic. I just said that if I was being PC I'd probably try or to phrase it better, give it real meaningful thought. But in the end I know I wouldn't go through with it. The way I see it, not even giving it thought or considering it, would be signs of a phobia. Understanding myself and knowing that just isn't my preference isn't.

That's an interesting take.
Not one that I share, but interesting nonetheless.

I did the same thing with a fat chick so who am i to judge

 

[Marti]

So, they don't 'transition' off the means of always feeling like a woman? That's what I always thought and was led to believe.

That is a reason too but a lot of the ones I know of did it off the simple fact of contracting hiv early as a man.

Their world is really sad and crazy

THE life most of them lead is real dangerous