"Black Women Won't Date Brothas That LIKE Trans Women, Transphobic" - Angelica Ross ('Pose' Actress)

[Booker T Garvey]

Would you date a bi woman that fukks trannies?

 

[Matt504]

I'm not so sure these words are actually here to stay. Well they may in academia or social theory. As common vernacular? Nah. The base level reasoning in even the most educated/unlearned adult anywhere on this planet will hear the explanation concerning "cis, fluid, etc" and the shyt out of general decency for the person making the claim. 3 years from now...the shyts gonna be done. Calling it...so will the commercialized feminism wave. It's an attention hustle for clicks/cash in the shock attention era. 2023 the most avid speakers, pages, and articles will be ghost.

If the language is done away with in 3 years it's because we no longer make any distinctions between cis gender and trans gender women. That's not a bright future.

 

[Caribbean lover]

Not all gay people like anal sex.

Hes actually right guys anal sex isn't exclusively done by gay persons.

 

[Black Sinatra]

If the language is done away with in 3 years it's because we no longer make any distinctions between cis gender and trans gender women. That's not a bright future.

It was a bright enough recent past tho. "Cis" wasn't a word 8 years ago. Transsexual was tho....or trans....and unfortunately tranny. Which all meant a person behaving or altering oneself to appear as the other. By "other" I'm speaking in binary male/female "identification" as the overwhelmingly biological, cultural, and populations per square inch of the globe as standard. It's 2018 and technically....the definition hasn't changed, unless you digest wantonly the current idealized theoretical poetry presented as fact. It's an exercise in semantics and inclusivity....good intent but bad execution.

 

[Eclipser]

I know I'm not attracted to them because I actually put some thought into it, which is my point. Some of you nikkas just have a knee jerk reaction and clearly some of yall are out there fukking these ladies. It became a problem when other naturally born women wouldn't fukk you after you fukked them which is how this thread started. I'm not giving myself a pat on the back or asking for YOUR approval. I just gave yall my true feelings about it and you are trying your best to smiley your way through this because you don't agree or are just too insecure to consider the possibility that you may be attracted to a trans person. You'd be correct to assume that trans people want to be with people that actually want them. But I'd also guess that they would not want to be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration. You wouldn't be attracted to a trans woman because you don't actually see that person as a woman. You see that person as a man. I'm presenting to you my honest conflicting emotions about it. On the one hand I do see them as women. On the other hand I know I could not bring myself to date a trans woman. But I at least tried to give them consideration and be understanding of their reality in the process instead of being outright dismissive. I'm not doing that because I give a shyt what YOU think of me. I'm doing it because I care about them on a human level and I'm secure enough in my manhood to at least think on it as opposed to just reacting without thinking, which I feel like is what happens a lot.

"I know I'm not attracted to them because I actually put some thought into it, which is my point"
You shouldn't have to sit down and convince yourself to be attracted to someone or not. Either you are or you aren't, which is my point.

"Some of you nikkas just have a knee jerk reaction and clearly some of yall are out there fukking these ladies. It became a problem when other naturally born women wouldn't fukk you after you fukked them which is how this thread started."
This is not the reality for 100% of straight men. No straight man has this issue.

"I'm not giving myself a pat on the back or asking for YOUR approval."
You are though, your entire post is a virtue signaling mess. And who cares about MY approval?
I only quoted your post because it highlights a disturbing trend of people putting radical, unquestioning empathy over basic logic.

"I just gave yall my true feelings about it and you are trying your best to smiley your way through this because you don't agree or are just too insecure to consider the possibility that you may be attracted to a trans person."
How am I smiley-ing my way through anything? The fact that I posted smilies doesn't take away from my argument or make it any less cogent. Also, telling you that you shouldn't date trans people to virtue signal, especially if you aren't attracted to them means that I am somehow too insecure to admit I am attracted to trans people? PLEASE MAKE THIS INCREDIBLE LEAP OF LOGIC MAKE SENSE.

"You'd be correct to assume that trans people want to be with people that actually want them. But I'd also guess that they would not want to be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration."

No one, INCLUDING trans people, is entitled to anyone's attraction/affection, so yes they can certainly be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration. They do deserve respect as human beings though, which is why you shouldn't use them as social justice experiments to make yourself appear more inclusive even though you aren't attracted to them.

"You wouldn't be attracted to a trans woman because you don't actually see that person as a woman. You see that person as a man."
Of course I see them as men.
No rational, person who has a basic grasp of science or identity sees trans women as women.
They are not GENETICALLY women, as they have Y chromosomes. They are genetically men.
They don't have the same lived experience of actual women, and are not considered by women OR men to be women,
thus are not SOCIALLY women.
Not genetically women.
Not socially women.
Not accepted as women by people who are genetically and socially women.
Not accepted as women by men who mate with people who are genetically and socially women.
Accepted as MEN by both groups.
Verdict: NOT WOMEN.

"I'm presenting to you my honest conflicting emotions about it. On the one hand I do see them as women. On the other hand I know I could not bring myself to date a trans woman."
You clearly don't see them as women if you have no problem dating real women but couldn't bring yourself to date a trans woman.
Just admit it. Don't let your desire to be what is considered by someone else to be a radically empathetic person cloud your true feelings about something.

"I'm not doing that because I give a shyt what YOU think of me. I'm doing it because I care about them on a human level and I'm secure enough in my manhood to at least think on it as opposed to just reacting without thinking, which I feel like is what happens a lot."
This has nothing to do with being secure in your manhood.
This has everything to do with caring about them on a human level.
We are just going about it differently.
YOU believe that caring about them means humoring whatever unsound theory/argument they have out of a sense of radical empathy.
I believe that humoring them is dangerous and has serious and deadly consequences to THEM, specifically. They should get help for what is so clearly a mental disorder, but people are guilted into believing that if they suggest that then they're bad people.

I have thought about this a lot, as have you. I have given the benefit of the doubt to trans arguments. I want to understand where people are coming from. But the fact remains that their theories and arguments just don't pass the logic/smell test, and so they get rejected. I have NO PROBLEM rejecting ideology that is not sound.

You do you though

 

[UpAndComing]

OP Just come out that you're gay. Enough already

 

[The Phoenix]

I know I'm not attracted to them because I actually considered it, which is my point. Some of you nikkas just have a knee jerk reaction and clearly some of yall are out there fukking these ladies. It became a problem when other naturally born women wouldn't fukk you after you fukked them which is how this thread started. I'm not giving myself a pat on the back or asking for YOUR approval. I just gave yall my true feelings about it and you are trying your best to smiley your way through this because you don't agree or are just too insecure to consider the possibility that you may be attracted to a trans person. You'd be correct to assume that trans people want to be with people that actually want them. But I'd also guess that they wouldn't not want to be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration. You wouldn't be attracted to a trans woman because you don't actually see that person as a woman. You see that person as a man. I'm presenting to you my honest conflicting emotions about it. On the one hand I do see them as women. On the other hand I know I could not bring myself to date a trans woman. But I at least tried to give them consideration and be understanding of their reality in the process instead of being outright dismissive. I'm not doing to because I give a shyt what YOU think of me. I'm doing it because I care about them on a human level and I'm secure enough in my manhood to at least think on it as opposed to just reacting without thinking, which I feel like is what happens a lot.

"I know I'm not attracted to them because I actually put some thought into it, which is my point"
You shouldn't have to sit down and convince yourself to be attracted to someone or not. Either you are or you aren't, which is my point.

"Some of you nikkas just have a knee jerk reaction and clearly some of yall are out there fukking these ladies. It became a problem when other naturally born women wouldn't fukk you after you fukked them which is how this thread started."
This is not the reality for 100% of straight men. No straight man has this issue.

"I'm not giving myself a pat on the back or asking for YOUR approval."
You are though, your entire post is a virtue signaling mess. And who cares about MY approval?
I only quoted your post because it highlights a disturbing trend of people putting radical, unquestioning empathy over basic logic.

"I just gave yall my true feelings about it and you are trying your best to smiley your way through this because you don't agree or are just too insecure to consider the possibility that you may be attracted to a trans person."
How am I smiley-ing my way through anything? The fact that I posted smilies doesn't take away from my argument or make it any less cogent. Also, telling you that you shouldn't date trans people to virtue signal, especially if you aren't attracted to them means that I am somehow too insecure to admit I am attracted to trans people? PLEASE MAKE THIS INCREDIBLE LEAP OF LOGIC MAKE SENSE.

"You'd be correct to assume that trans people want to be with people that actually want them. But I'd also guess that they would not want to be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration."

No one, INCLUDING trans people, is entitled to anyone's attraction/affection, so yes they can certainly be immediately dismissed without any sort of consideration. They do deserve respect as human beings though, which is why you shouldn't use them as social justice experiments to make yourself appear more inclusive even though you aren't attracted to them.

"You wouldn't be attracted to a trans woman because you don't actually see that person as a woman. You see that person as a man."
Of course I see them as men.
No rational, person who has a basic grasp of science or identity sees trans women as women.
They are not GENETICALLY women, as they have Y chromosomes. They are genetically men.
They don't have the same lived experience of actual women, and are not considered by women OR men to be women,
thus are not SOCIALLY women.
Not genetically women.
Not socially women.
Not accepted as women by people who are genetically and socially women.
Not accepted as women by men who mate with people who are genetically and socially women.
Accepted as MEN by both groups.
Verdict: NOT WOMEN.

"I'm presenting to you my honest conflicting emotions about it. On the one hand I do see them as women. On the other hand I know I could not bring myself to date a trans woman."
You clearly don't see them as women if you have no problem dating real women but couldn't bring yourself to date a trans woman.
Just admit it. Don't let your desire to be what is considered by someone else to be a radically empathetic person cloud your true feelings about something.

"I'm not doing that because I give a shyt what YOU think of me. I'm doing it because I care about them on a human level and I'm secure enough in my manhood to at least think on it as opposed to just reacting without thinking, which I feel like is what happens a lot."
This has nothing to do with being secure in your manhood.
This has everything to do with caring about them on a human level.
We are just going about it differently.
YOU believe that caring about them means humoring whatever unsound theory/argument they have out of a sense of radical empathy.
I believe that humoring them is dangerous and has serious and deadly consequences to THEM, specifically. They should get help for what is so clearly a mental disorder, but people are guilted into believing that if they suggest that then they're bad people.

I have thought about this a lot, as have you. I have given the benefit of the doubt to trans arguments. I want to understand where people are coming from. But the fact remains that their theories and arguments just don't pass the logic/smell test, and so they get rejected. I have NO PROBLEM rejecting ideology that is not sound.

You do you though

Bruh, I refuse to even read all of that trash. Damn you got issues. It ain't that serious. You have a good one, keep it movin homie.

 

[Arris]

I'm presenting to you my honest conflicting emotions about it. On the one hand I do see them as women. On the other hand I know I could not bring myself to date a trans woman. But I at least tried to give them consideration and be understanding of their reality in the process instead of being outright dismissive.

this is the sticking point

you don't truly see them as women but you wanna be accepting so bad you try to maneuver around in your own head so you don't feel as bad about it.

I'd say that goes for the vast majority of people, accepting and fighting for their rights, which is fine. But they're not just fighting for that, they truly want to be seen as women with no distinction.

so when you "appear" to be fully supportive of them, but go when faced with the question of dating or having sexual experiences they are understandably confused. they're biological males and your not attracted to them pre-op or post-op it's ok to say that

 

[The Phoenix]

this is the sticking point

you don't truly see them as women but you wanna be accepting so bad you try to maneuver around in your own head so you don't feel as bad about it.

I'd say that goes for the vast majority of people, accepting and fighting for their rights, which is fine. But they're not just fighting for that, they truly want to be seen as women with no distinction.

so when you "appear" to be fully supportive of them, but go when faced with the question of dating or having sexual experiences they are understandably confused. they're biological males and your not attracted to them pre-op or post-op it's ok to say that

But I did say that. But since this is a message board, I expounded on it. And it's not that I WANT to be accepting. I am accepting. But just because I'm accepting of someone, whether it's racial or otherwise, does not mean that I have to be attracted to them sexually. And I don't think they are as confused as you say. But clearly naturally born women as well as I'm sure a number of people are trying to wrap their heads around all of this.

 

[Eclipser]

Bruh, I refuse to even read all of that trash. Damn you got issues. It ain't that serious. You have a good one, keep it movin homie.

I have issues but you're the one negging a post you supposedly didn't read calling me a "fukking idiot"
I don't want to get you anymore in your feelings. Like I said, do you

 

[SirReginald]

OP Just come out that you're gay. Enough already

I'm not in the mood. Act your damn age.

 

[True Darkseid]

 

[mag357]

I feel like im the only nikka that gets confused by reading shyt about trans sexuals...
Ill just say 1 thing b4 i get way the fukk outta here...
im an old head... and im disappointed in u muthafukaz... you let our world get like this... our black world.
nikkaz out here fukkin trans nikkaz... and nobody checked them. yall let our young ppl think all this fruity shyt was cool...
We use to be strong ppl... we aint shyt now
muthafukaz on here debating about tranny shyt...
When is enough going to be enough? when are we going to look around and see how far we've fallen?
If u a gay nikka, or a tranny luvin nikka, cool... thats ur business. Thats ur personal business in ur bed room. keep it there...
But there is no room for ur debauchery in our communities.

 

[Take It In Blood]

Breh makes so many tranny LBGT threads he had to drop a disclaimer

 

[Rawtid]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: transgenderism undermines feminism.

You’re so right! There is more to being a woman than just looking like one.