Black Women....why did u allow Hip Hop to make it cool to call ya'll "Bytches"?

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Probably the same reason why black men allowed rappers to call them nikkas :sas2:


Oh wait the "n-word" was flipped into a positive meaning. Like the same way Missy, Eve, ans Trina flipped the word bytch too, right? :sas1:


What exactly are we talking about here? What's the point?
 

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To be honest, that didn't start with hiphop. They (black men and women) were doing that in the blues and jazz world decades prior. 70 blaxploitation movies used it on film in the same fashion.

miles wife betty

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is the one who named this album

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True.Hip hop culture is just a continuation of the Blaxploitation Media Movement controlled by powerful evil people
the late ‘60s and ‘70s

Notice how all of this coincided with the increase in incarceration of men of color


Wrong. The community did not have a collective co sign were Black woman being called a bytch was considered cool thing until the 90's. Wasnt no "term of endearment" amongst Black women calling each other bytch in the 70's and 80's. 70's Black Power was not having that.

Again..the only place that was acceptable was in the streets and Blaxploitation usually involved street shyt. In The Mack, Pretty Toney refered to Chyna as a bytch because she was a prostitute.


Miles Davis made jazz music.....Miles Didnt have Black women in the audience cheering after asking "where all my live bytches at?"
 
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Most of these current gripes with Hip Hop on social media are phony outrage due to the fact that the same "so called" disregard to the culture went unchecked in the 90's. You mad about it in 2018 while ignoring it in the 90's? :stopitslime:

Yeah right


Dont talk to me about Latino rappers using the N word in 2018 while ignoring Cypress Hill, Fat Joe and Pun all in the 90's. Dont talk about Young Thug and Tekashi feminising Hip Hop while ignoring Biz Markie, Spliff Star and Eminem wearing dresses in 90's videos. Dont talk to me about whites mimicking hip hop culture now as if we didnt see Beastie Boys propped up as the white Run Dmc in the 80's and Vanilla Ice propped up as an MC Hammer clone in the early 90's. None of this shyt is new so stop acting like its new.



There's a poster named @Stacker Pentecost who made a video trying to lump Cardi B into this current urban social media topic of cultural appropriation. But thats a "trending topic." My question.....How you more focused on a "trending topic" of so called cultural appropriation while ignoring one of the biggest moral degrading moments among the community which is rap music making it cool to call Black women bytches all in the 90's?


So we just gonna skip over that huh? Thats not a "trending topic" so we aint focused on that huh? :francis:

The degradation of the Black Woman in Hip Hop is one of the biggest blows to the Black community I have ever seen in my life. In the 80's you called a Black Woman a bytch and that was a fight. Calling a Black woman a bytch was street shyt...If it wasnt street shyt it was "ghetto" which was looked down upon at the time. No person with class would use that amongst Black Women....Atleast thats how I remember it....But something happened in the 90's to were by the time the new millennium kicked it Black women were calling each other bytch like it was ok.


Where the fukk my bytches at? Where my bytches is at? We got the real live shyt
- Busta Rhymes 1997.




1993 Queen Latifah asks"Who you calling a bytch?"





6 years later........1999. Eve makes an anthem called "My Bytches".......




That same year Missy drops a single refering to herself as a "B*tch"....a year later Trina called herself "The Baddest bytch." Now when Roxanne Shante called herself a bytch in her early 90's promo....that was a term more aimed at "bad girls"....Black women werent holding that word on their sleeve like that. BWP (bytches with problems) was underground were it belonged..not in mainstream. In the 80's Dr Huxtable and Gerore Jefferson represented middle class Black Americans. Cliff never called Clair a bytch and neither did George to Weezy. But Redd Foxx kept referring to Della Reese a bytch over and over again in the movieHarlem Nights because they were criminals involved in street shyt. Again...Calling a Black woman a bytch in the 80's was street/ghetto shyt.

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But in todays day....If a concert is turned up or if the party is hype and whoever on the mic/on the record says "where my bytches is at" a bunch of Black women will scream at the top of their lungs.....they wont roll their eyes and say 'who u calling a bytch?" So what happened in the 90's? Why did Black Women allow Hip Hop to make it cool to call Black women bytches. And why did Black Woman allow it to just happen without a fight? Instead of fighting ya'll gave in and accepted it?


Had this same "hiphop/bytches conversation with my boy.
 

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Maybe you nikkas aren't old enough to remember when Black women were railing against being called bytches in rap music in the 90s and all of the Black male rappers finding every excuse in the world to continue doing so.

:patrice:
Clearly you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that the black women who protested against the use of the word “bytch” in rap pales in comparison with the black women who protest the use of the word.
Black women pushed against it and black men called those women bytches.
Bladk women didn’t push back against shyt. A select group of a very small percentage of black women protested against the use of the word and they were in fact......... bytches.
 

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Wrong. The community did not have a collective co sign were Black woman being called a bytch was considered cool thing until the 90's.

It still isn't a collective cosign on the usage. It's more of a popular undercurrent just like it was in the blues and jazz era


Wasnt no "term of endearment" amongst Black women calling each other bytch in the 70's and 80's.


yes it was, it's just most people didn't pay attention as much to it


70's Black Power was not having that.

They were definitely using it during that era. Even people within the party lol




Again..the only place that was acceptable was in the streets and Blaxploitation usually involved street shyt. In The Mack, Pretty Toney refered to Chyna as a bytch because she was a prostitute.

Again, that's why it was an undercurrent. Even now, it's an undercurrent and only used it certain situations just like the word "nikka"


Miles Davis made jazz music.....Miles Didnt have Black women in the audience cheering after asking "where all my live bytches at?"

miles davis wife that you see on this cover talked about how he routinely, called her and other black women (white ones too), bytches

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Blame black women 4 black mens actions brehs

Ignore that charismatic men misuse their influence to lead women into believing shyt they typically wouldn't brehs
 

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It still isn't a collective cosign on the usage. It's more of a popular undercurrent just like it was in the blues and jazz era

:what:

Hell no...

....That word bytch was not protested in jazz and blues on the level of what we saw with hip hop at one point. You reaching. If we talking blues we talking about elders refering to it as "devil music" for the most part...that was the biggest protest we saw from the elders...not no calling black women "bytch."


Also...I'm using examples from my own accounts. Shyt I seen with my own eyes. I'd rather u tell me what u seen...not what Miles Davis wife said from a 3rd party.
 

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The real reason that black women "lost" the whole bytch debate of the 90's is that they have no real unity. (no pun intended)

Say what you want about men having more powerful voices, but females are the ultimate consumers of music. They stop listening/buying and change happens.

I remember in college these women at Spelman were protesting Nelly coming to their campus because of the Tip Drill video. We even had a town hall about it at my school. But I was sitting in the audience like :sas2: because a lot of the women that were protesting were the same ones shaking their asses to this type of music beforehand. Ultimately that movement came and went too. shyt went back to normal... rap music disrespecting women.

All in all, I don't blame black women tho. Because their voice is even smaller than that of black people as a whole. And black people as a whole struggle with uniting in order to fight against our oppressors. But when you look at the forces against us, the shyt can be exhausting so most black people would rather not be bothered and just live their lives. I would imagine the fight against misogyny in rap felt the same for black women.
 

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Yeah op is dikkhead. That shyt was very controversial


You werent clubbing in the mid 90's....this conversation isnt for you.

C Deloris Tucker obviously wasnt accepting of the word....I'm not talking about the ones who didnt accept it...i'm talking about the ones who did.

:camby:
 

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Maybe you nikkas aren't old enough to remember when Black women were railing against being called bytches in rap music in the 90s and all of the Black male rappers finding every excuse in the world to continue doing so.

:patrice:
The big homie had the best political campaign on BP2, bytches & Sisters, classic shyt :mjlol:

) Sisters get respect, bytches get what they deserve
SIsters work hard, bytches work your nerves
Sisters hold you down, bytches hold you up
Sisters help you progress, bytches will slow you up
Sisters cook up a meal, play their role with the kids
bytches in street with their nose in your biz
Sisters tell the truth, bytches tell lies
Sisters drive cars, bytches wanna ride
Sisters give-up the ass, bytches give-up the ass
Sisters do it slow, bytches do it fast
Sisters do their dirt outside of where they live
bytches have ******s all up in your crib
Sisters tell you quick "you better check your homie"
bytches don't give a fukk, they wanna check for your homie
Sisters love Jay cuz they know how 'Hov is
I love my sisters, I don't love no bytch
 

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You werent clubbing in the mid 90's....this conversation isnt for you.

C Deloris Tucker obviously wasnt accepting of the word....I'm not talking about the ones who didnt accept it...i'm talking about the ones who did.

:camby:
Not just C Delores Tuck muffin head.

It was a hot button topic amongst our community.

Just like when Lil Kim did her album cover and Black a women were mad at her.

But the media forced it on them.

There’s videos about this shyt on YouTube. Do some research dikkhead.
 

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Not just C Delores Tuck muffin head.

It was a hot button topic amongst our community.

Just like when Lil Kim did her album cover and Black a women were mad at her.

But the media forced it on them.

There’s videos about this shyt on YouTube. Do some research dikkhead.


This is your 2nd response that has absolutly nothing to do with the topic.

U totally ignoring me posting the Latifah video or me speaking on how there was Black women fighting against the B word proves you're not even payint attention to the topic at hand. If u were paying attention u wouldnt have even wrote that.



GTFO my conversation troll :camby:
 
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