Black residents reject Trader Joe’s because it would attract too many white people

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:yeshrug: sorry hogan i read your post and the letter and cant find no truth to the claim of corruption although AM SURE it is happening somewhere, at least nothing backed by facts , but the claims by this organization seems to be fishy also
THE PROPERTY WAS VALUED AT $2.9 MILLION AND WAS SOLD FOR HALF A MILLI, BROTHER! I ALSO JUMPED THE GUN ON BELIEVING THAT THE SUBSIDIZATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM CITY FUNDS INTENDED FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE, DUDE! IF I CAN FIND EVIDENCE BACKING THAT CLAIM, I'LL POST IT, MEAN GENE!
 

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Trader Joe’s would increase displacement of low-income residents and “increase the desirability of the neighborhood,” for “non-oppressed populations,” PAALF wrote.
This statement kinda blows me. Why do we fight so hard to maintain low income housing, instead of trying to attract middle and upper class BLACKS into the area. I'm not saying we can't do both, but the fights to maintain a lower level on the totem pole see backwards. When are we going to raise or standard of living?
 

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This statement kinda blows me. Why do we fight so hard to maintain low income housing, instead of trying to attract middle and upper class BLACKS into the area. I'm not saying we can't do both, but the fights to maintain a lower level on the totem pole see backwards. When are we going to raise or standard of living?

Its the result of the slave mentality many blacks suffer from. So used to mediocrity and handouts that anything potentially good gets labeled "non-black". When in reality, black leaders should be teaching its people the best ways they can benefit economically by this. The community has a lot of strong hands it can play to force these companies to address its issues. As long as there is a potential for money to be made, people will work out their differences.
 

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Its the result of the slave mentality many blacks suffer from. So used to mediocrity and handouts that anything potentially good gets labeled "non-black". When in reality, black leaders should be teaching its people the best ways they can benefit economically by this. The community has a lot of strong hands it can play to force these companies to address its issues. As long as there is a potential for money to be made, people will work out their differences.

True. but also there are other stores and chains just as big as trader joes. They could lobby for a big pathmark like they got in harlem.
 

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True. but also there are other stores and chains just as big as trader joes. They could lobby for a big pathmark like they got in harlem.

pathmarks are sh*tty grocery stores... trader joes are way better.
 

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THE PROPERTY WAS VALUED AT $2.9 MILLION AND WAS SOLD FOR HALF A MILLI, BROTHER! I ALSO JUMPED THE GUN ON BELIEVING THAT THE SUBSIDIZATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM CITY FUNDS INTENDED FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE, DUDE! IF I CAN FIND EVIDENCE BACKING THAT CLAIM, I'LL POST IT, MEAN GENE!

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/11/portland_development_commissio_22.html

See the problem with this is ironically no one is going to pay $3 million to purchase land to build in a disenfranchised black neighborhood, just not going to happen, so the city used subsidies to get them this land for $500,000 and again am sureeeeee there was some payola somewhere here but the deal seems pretty straight forward at most I agree with what @Hiphoplives4eva said they should have pushed more for guaranteed jobs for blacks, instead they was pushing harder for public housing , which is mind blowing to me, ok u get public housing in the area, you get more black people in the area now how do u expect these ppl to pay rent? (even its low), feed and clothes families? how are they going to do that with out jobs?
 

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This is a tough situation. I've seen so many make it cut and dry, or that people have some slave mentality or black people don't want anything. I don't think its that simple. The store won't just automatically make the neighborhood a better place. Yes, it will bring a few jobs, but at the same time you risk raising property values so much that local residents either can't afford rent or their taxes. My own area has this exact problem. We love to see the area develop and clean up, but at the same time its just becoming a place that the current businesses can't afford because the new residents aren't interested in those businesses, while the new business are often unaffordable to a lot of people living here. We've seen a lot of the great food places just simply not be able to afford the taxes. Of course you want economic development, but in such an area, what you'd like probably like is more of a job creator that can grow with residents. I love Trader Joe's and I shop there, but I can see that its not a place for a low income family to get actual groceries, nor do the jobs pay or create the type of experience that might lift one from their position. I dunno. Its just not that black and white. Job creators are generally not at the neighborhood level anymore anyway. It could be a good thing if its a locally owned franchise, but that's not normal at all for groceries. I just don't know that this is something that will help that community. Do you want to be gentrified out of your area(remember a lot of people are older or even live a decent life in the hood. Its not as automatically Iraq like American Whites like to make things)
 

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This is a tough situation. I've seen so many make it cut and dry, or that people have some slave mentality or black people don't want anything. I don't think its that simple. The store won't just automatically make the neighborhood a better place. Yes, it will bring a few jobs, but at the same time you risk raising property values so much that local residents either can't afford rent or their taxes. My own area has this exact problem. We love to see the area develop and clean up, but at the same time its just becoming a place that the current businesses can't afford because the new residents aren't interested in those businesses, while the new business are often unaffordable to a lot of people living here. We've seen a lot of the great food places just simply not be able to afford the taxes. Of course you want economic development, but in such an area, what you'd like probably like is more of a job creator that can grow with residents. I love Trader Joe's and I shop there, but I can see that its not a place for a low income family to get actual groceries, nor do the jobs pay or create the type of experience that might lift one from their position. I dunno. Its just not that black and white. Job creators are generally not at the neighborhood level anymore anyway. It could be a good thing if its a locally owned franchise, but that's not normal at all for groceries. I just don't know that this is something that will help that community. Do you want to be gentrified out of your area(remember a lot of people are older or even live a decent life in the hood. Its not as automatically Iraq like American Whites like to make things)

Yep alot of people living here on fixed salaries and shyt because they cant afford other neighborhoods.
 

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:what:Trader Joes is the shyt. Given the sheer pervasiveness of shytty fast food in many predominately black areas we need to welcome quality food at good prices. I mean its not grossly overpriced like fukkin' Whole Foods. Whose sponsoring these clowns?
While I agree with this (I'm a hardcore Trader Joe's shopper), I understand why a neighborhood would reject it. The store would bring whites. Whites WILL bring higher prices for everything from food to rent.
 
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