Black QBs twice as likely to be benched than whites

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Ray Lewis is a scumbag murderer.

What proof of that do you have?

Not one person has claimed to have witnessed Ray Lewis murder somebody, CAC.


If you think a coach or gm is more worried about preserving the white race at qb then keeping his job then you're a complete idiot :mjlol:

And THIS is why you idiots don't understand racism.

it's not about some dudes sitting around going "Ooooh, we gotta keep the Blacks out".

It's BIAS. It's them saying when a White QB throws an INT, "That receiver needs to run his route better" in his mind and when a Black QB throws one says "He's just not picking up the system quickly enough". Everybody has biases. It's just like if you had a family member playing, you'd see it differently than if you saw some dude you didn't like playing.

Since Tomlin decided that current Arizona Cardinals’ head coach and then Steelers’ offensive coordinator Bruce Arians needed to retire, Tomlin has a 22-20 record. In that same time, Arians has led the Colts (interim head coach) and the Cardinals to a 28-10 record.

dikk LaBeau runs that defense and Todd Haley does the offense. Tomlin is just loved everywhere for no clear reason.

So, I guess guys like Troy Polamalu and all those defensive players getting old and retiring and Ben getting hurt and now Le'veon getting hurt hasn't had anything to do with that.

The Steelers have been in constant flux the past 4 years pretty much and virtually none of that is Tomlin's fault.

Is Manziel considered black? Nobody can explain why he's not starting.

Are you seriously comparing an alcoholic, girlfriend beating, scrub with the average Black QB?

If Manziel was Black, ESPN would be demanding that he be suspended for beating his girlfriend up like they did Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, and Ray McDonald.

Same reason the Raiders moved on from JaMarcus Russell, same reason the Eagles never stayed with Vince. He was probably the best college QB of all-time but in the pros, he was just another Doug Flutie.

Um, Vince was Rookie of the Year and took his team to the playoffs in his first year.

Try again.



If you wanna get mad, get mad about these fukking cops taking advantage of their power and in some cases killing innocent people. Don't complain because RG3 sucks in the NFL. I still believe that love is the best option though, and I try to be fair with police.

That's such a bullshyt liberal CAC answer.

You get to tell us what kind of racism we get to care about.

"Oh, you can't complain about workplace discrimination, you can only care about police brutality, which we are just recognizing exists, after years of telling you it didn't, but now we can't deny it since there's video cameras everywhere catching cops killing you in the streets".



I'm still waiting on the list of QBs who are being screwed over by this predjudice anomaly in the National Football League. Who should be starting that isn't? Or who should've been given a longer leash?

Manziel? Tebow? Kaepernick? Foles in Philly? I'm not seeing any black faces on this list. Maybe the players who got benched just got benched because they actually were not good enough. Has anyone here but me (woo hoo I'm white now) considered it? Or are you too busy putting batteries in socks and starting fires in the neighborhood to realize what's actually real?

Manziel's the living embodiment of this thread. A guy who's girlfriend just told the police he beat her up (in an era where everyone supposedly cares about domestic violence), a guy who got arrested in college, committed all kinds of violations that got him in trouble, has been a drunk for the past 3 or 4 years, and yet gets drafted in the 1st round and gets to start in the NFL, without massive outrage.

Tebow's gotten 3 chances and failed every time.

Foles is the starter in St. Louis

I could see the discrimination angle but couldn't the same case be made vice versa for white WRs and DBs? What about black kickers and Punters?

:mindblown: Where are all the Black coaches to discriminate against White DBs and RBs?

There's only a few Black coaches in college in and the pros.

That's why this whole "reverse racism" thing doesn't work.


Good luck, idiot...AND FOR THE RECORD MFER, I AM BLACK!

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Nope, because the assertion was that modern day QBs who are black are being discriminated against. $100M doesn't seem like lesser treatment. Comment on recent posts as to not disrupt the flow of the discussion

Bullshyt.

During slavery, Black horse jockies were the highest paid athletes in the world, while being slaves. Look it up.

JaMarcus Russell

JaMarcus Russell had the potential to be great. He didn't want it.

He still was 6'5 with a rocket arm and had all the physical tools to be great.

Can't really say Johnny has those attributes

Nfl teams want to make money and win.

Nobody says they don't. Everybody wants to make money and win in life. That's not the issue. The issue is bias. Bias isn't overt in people's minds. Bias is subconscious. If I see a Black person do something, I view it differently than when a White person does something. That's not something malicious, that's just how people's brains work.

Keep piling on, handegg deserves it

:comeon:Yeah, and soccer, a sport where Black players get attacked and have bananas thrown at them while being called racial slurs on a regular basis doesn't:camby:

Rg3 numbers in his "bad" year which was actually avg.

Was light years better than cousins but was still benched

Exactly, earlier this year, they showed a graphic on Monday Night Football, where Cousins had thrown the same number of INTs as RG3 with 600 fewer attempts.

I was watching that like:ohhh:
 

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How is it a fair statement if you've never watched him play for real? And its not a fair statement in the slightest...... what criteria is this based on...?

Manziel is the closest to Vick as far as skills. I know that doesn't help the "they're out to get us" argument, but Manziel is the new Vick and he's not starting.

I have watched Vince Young for real? Huh? I said he's probably the greatest college QB of all time and he played for my Philadelphia Eagles. He did not translate into even a mediocre starting NFL QB.
 

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What proof of that do you have?

Not one person has claimed to have witnessed Ray Lewis murder somebody, CAC.

He was at the very least an accomplice to murder. He got away with it completely. I can be black and know he is a piece of shyt. This much is true, be real w/ yourself.


It's BIAS. It's them saying when a White QB throws an INT, "That receiver needs to run his route better" in his mind and when a Black QB throws one says "He's just not picking up the system quickly enough". Everybody has biases. It's just like if you had a family member playing, you'd see it differently than if you saw some dude you didn't like playing.

Nobody ever said this, sounds like something that you think in your head. The black QBs in the league don't care about you and you aren't there family. You have the same skin color, big whoop.

So, I guess guys like Troy Polamalu and all those defensive players getting old and retiring and Ben getting hurt and now Le'veon getting hurt hasn't had anything to do with that.

The Steelers have been in constant flux the past 4 years pretty much and virtually none of that is Tomlin's fault.

I'm over this point. He got an easy SB ring and his coordinators do all the work. He is probably good at pep talks. Yay Mr. Pep Talk, that's not that great though. This is my personal opinion. Moving on...

Are you seriously comparing an alcoholic, girlfriend beating, scrub with the average Black QB?

If Manziel was Black, ESPN would be demanding that he be suspended for beating his girlfriend up like they did Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, and Ray McDonald.

I don't give a shyt about comparing people on a basis of skin color or personal life. Greg Hardy should be in prison with Big Ben Roethilisberger the rapist. Manziel is a punk but his play style is closest to Vick. If the outdated, narrow-minded, pathetic, label "black QB" means anything then Manziel is that guy. I am not bringing personal life choices into that comparison, strictly talent and play style. Yes, this is true.


Um, Vince was Rookie of the Year and took his team to the playoffs in his first year.

Try again.

This was a decision Jeff Fisher made, ULTIMATELY, even after a few more opportunities Vince never showed much and like JaMarcus "seemed to not want it". Do you blame Jeff Fisher for being right because the player he benched is black? That's a stupid way to think.


That's such a bullshyt liberal CAC answer.

Yet, I'm black and educated. Liberal and conservative are meaningless to me. Let's take the issues 1 by 1.

You get to tell us what kind of racism we get to care about.

Yet, you care about stupid shyt.

"Oh, you can't complain about workplace discrimination, you can only care about police brutality, which we are just recognizing exists, after years of telling you it didn't, but now we can't deny it since there's video cameras everywhere catching cops killing you in the streets".

Again, sounds like something you think in your head but is not reflected in real life. Nobody thinks the cops are being fair to us. Nobody can do shyt about it though because the only reason cops can get away with it is because they have the power and abuse it. The way to improve things is to make sure that when/if you have the power, you act righteously with mercy and love. Otherwise, the saga continues with that eye for an eye mentality.




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FUCC YOU ho!

During slavery, Black horse jockies were the highest paid athletes in the world, while being slaves. Look it up.

I respect this and was not aware. Thank you and I admit the L on that angle.



JaMarcus Russell had the potential to be great. He didn't want it.

He still was 6'5 with a rocket arm and had all the physical tools to be great.

Can't really say Johnny has those attributes

You think Manziel "wants it"? I don't not really. JaMarcus was not accurate and became a fat fukk. He had 2 full years to run the show, had 12 fumbles the first year then 9 fumbles and 11 INTs in 9 games the second year. His QBR was abyssmal both seasons and then he got even bigger and couldn't play at all. He just failed; no discrimination at all. If a white QB goes that same path he will lose his job for good too.



Nobody says they don't. Everybody wants to make money and win in life. That's not the issue. The issue is bias. Bias isn't overt in people's minds. Bias is subconscious. If I see a Black person do something, I view it differently than when a White person does something. That's not something malicious, that's just how people's brains work.

Fair enough, my point was this particular case is stupid and half-cooked and is probably just distracting us from things that matter.


:comeon:Yeah, and soccer, a sport where Black players get attacked and have bananas thrown at them while being called racial slurs on a regular basis doesn't

The entire world is racist, it doesn't stop until we ALL stop being racist.


Exactly, earlier this year, they showed a graphic on Monday Night Football, where Cousins had thrown the same number of INTs as RG3 with 600 fewer attempts.

Cousins sucks but again like with Manziel and his coach, or Vince Young and Jeff Fisher. It's a personal decision by one person and I'd be really surprised if race factored into it with any of these situations. On a side note, RG3 is bad but his organization is worse. I would definitely like to see him try out for the Eagles.

I was watching that like:ohhh:

Kirk Cousins sucks.

Fair enough?
 
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I don't know man Andy Reid stood behind Mike Vick even with the dog mess. And McNabb all those years

:dwillhuh:

The dog mess happened before he went to Philly and Vick only got a shot because Kevin Kolb got hurt. Of course he stood by McNabb, he was a beast and had folks acting like Reid was some genius. He still didnt' hesitate to give McNabb the :camby: at 34 coming off an NFC championship game appearance and another playoff appearance in favor of that same Kevin Kolb. But when it comes to white QBs fukking up with nowhere near the resume that McNabb had and better weapons all you hear is "bu...bu...but who you gonna replace him with".
 

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@Emperor_ReinScarf @mrken12 @blackestofpanthers @Sk3ptical @Guwopaveli Threads like this make you see how many cacs are in the green posting on this site

I already know. :francis: People can make all the excuses they want but black QBs are expected to bring almost immediate results regardless of unfavorable circumstances. In relation to this topic, I would take a one legged RG3 over Kirk Cousins anyday.

And don't tag Emperor because he was saying that bullshyt about Cousins being better than RG3.
 

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I already know. :francis: People can make all the excuses they want but black QBs are expected to bring almost immediate results regardless of unfavorable circumstances. In relation to this topic, I would take a one legged RG3 over Kirk Cousins anyday.

And don't tag Emperor because he was saying that bullshyt about Cousins being better than RG3.
shyt is crazy how all these cacs just come out of no where :dwillhuh: ready to come in here saying all this research is shyt and when posters give them examples they just deflect it.... then you have one posters saying he is not a cac :mjlol: but he defending them we might have the @Pifferry of the coliseum now.
 

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shyt is crazy how all these cacs just come out of no where :dwillhuh: ready to come in here saying all this research is shyt and when posters give them examples they just deflect it.... then you have one posters saying he is not a cac :mjlol: but he defending them we might have the @Pifferry of the coliseum now.
that's the way of esau breh. They'll argue against research and statistics if it fits their agenda
 
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