Black QBs twice as likely to be benched than whites

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The dog mess happened before he went to Philly and Vick only got a shot because Kevin Kolb got hurt. Of course he stood by McNabb, he was a beast and had folks acting like Reid was some genius. He still didnt' hesitate to give McNabb the :camby: at 34 coming off an NFC championship game appearance and another playoff appearance in favor of that same Kevin Kolb. But when it comes to white QBs fukking up with nowhere near the resume that McNabb had and better weapons all you hear is "bu...bu...but who you gonna replace him with".

Got damn I love y'all brothas.....:wow:. Y'all kats in here speaking nothing but gospel and straight truth....16 pages of knowledge being dropped on institutional racism at the QB position.
 

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What?? So when McNabb was benched against the Ravens that wasn't some bull shyt.

It was so fukked up that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed both called out Andy Reid and the philly media and they were opposing players.

Lewis and Reed said how Andy was setting up McNabb to fail and called out how predictable the plays were.

Not to mention the Eagles trading McNabb (when he finally got some young weapons) so Kolb could start. Plus McNabb too the Eagles to the NFC Championship game and first round of the playoffs the two years before he was traded in the offseason.
umm.....nut that same year mcnabb was benched...he came back the next game and got us to the NFC championship no?
 

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umm.....nut that same year mcnabb was benched...he came back the next game and got us to the NFC championship no?

Yes that is what I am was saying. That is the year he took the Eagles to the NFC championship game. He was benched against the Ravens and Reid started him on that Thursday night game against the Cardinals. The Eagles blow out the Cardinals that game.

But they would lose to the cardinals in the NFC Championship game. But the next year McNabb takes the Eagles to the 1st round of the playoffs losing to the Cowboys. He had a rookie McCoy and a rookie Maclin that year. McNabb also missed some games because of the dirty spear hit he took the first game against the Panthers when they broke his rips.

My point is he was traded the offseason after the previous two years taking the Eagles to the NFC championship game and 1st round of the playoffs with a bunch of green skilled players. Only for the Eagles to give the keys to the white QB once all the skilled players were set and had matured.
 

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I'd hate to watch sports with your point of view.

Can you provide an example.

I don't give a flying fukk what color my qb is I want to win.

When are fans happy with a white qb going 6-10?
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The poster I quoted was suggesting that racial biases at the QB position don't exist because coaches simply wouldn't sabotage their own job security by choosing lesser skilled QBs.

Again, because biases do in fact exist, the manner by which coaches DECIDE on which QB to pick is the crux of the issue. I gave an example of how 2 different scenarios could play out. In option 2 (going with the more popular white QB), that coach would likely keep his job because ownership and management have biases in place that lean towards keeping the white QB. This is also fed by the fanbases of course - the people paying for tickets (majority white) would prefer that QB as well, making that decision a "safer" one with respect to his job security.

Bottom line is that it's not as basic as W-L record. Keeping your job in the NFL means making decisions that keep your bosses happy.
 

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Where is the example of the Black Jay Cutler or Black Matthew Stafford?

Or the Black Jeff George

See my responses inline in bold.


Fair enough?

No way you're Black and too naive to understand implicit bias.

I made up the fact that people see one group of people doing one thing differently than another group of people doing the same thing?

Really?

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You want a racist sport why not look at Hockey.

Black people don't play hockey, whereas we're 70% of the NFL
 

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Ya'll are just soft, cry more about ridiculous asinine issues when the media tells you to. Fall in line.

Meanwhile, be ignorant to the fact that an officer was just reinstated after disconnecting his lapel cam before murdering a young man. His excuse "it just happened to disconnect before the incident".

But you want to complain because some shytty QBs got benched. Implicit bias goes both ways and will probably never go away until people become more intelligent and rationale. Everybody deals with implicit bias all the time, all ages, genders, ethnicities, and orientations. It's just people being drawn to things that are "like them". This is due to people being controlled by fear and specifically the fear of change. You will need to perservere through implicit bias, point blank.

Right now y'all wanna group up against me, another black man, because I have a different opinion. Y'all need that support, that pat on the back, I don't need shyt because I have a brain.
 
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Ya'll are just soft, cry more about ridiculous asinine issues when the media tells you to. Fall in line.

Meanwhile, be ignorant to the fact that an officer was just reinstated after disconnecting his lapel cam before murdering a young man. His excuse "it just happened to disconnect before the incident".

But you want to complain because some shytty QBs got benched. Implicit bias goes both ways and will probably never go away until people become more intelligent and rationale. Everybody deals with implicit bias all the time, all ages, genders, ethnicities, and orientations. It's just people being drawn to things that are "like them". This is due to people being controlled by fear and specifically the fear of change. You will need to perservere through implicit bias, point blank.

Right now y'all wanna group up against me, another black man, because I have a different opinion. Y'all need that support, that pat on the back, I don't need shyt because I have a brain.

You fukking idiot. WERE always mad about the police killing Black people. Why the fukk can it only be one or the other.

You don't see nikkaz, marching and protesting across the country. One of my friend's families is suing the police for over 7 million dollars for killing his son, you don't think I was mad about that shyt? Really? We were all mad about that shyt.

Secondly, everybody DOES have implicit bias, which is EXACTLY what I was arguing. The difference is that WE don't have the power that White people do, so when WE have implicit biases, it can't have the same impact because WE are not the ones with all the power. You're making my argument for me, jerkass. You're the one acting like nobody can have implicit biases and the only way they could be racist is to literally make a decision to hurt their own teams bottom line just to discriminate against Black people

I'm the one who's telling you that the biases they have aren't on purpose often, they're subconscious, genius.
 

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Ya'll are just soft, cry more about ridiculous asinine issues when the media tells you to. Fall in line.

Meanwhile, be ignorant to the fact that an officer was just reinstated after disconnecting his lapel cam before murdering a young man. His excuse "it just happened to disconnect before the incident".

But you want to complain because some shytty QBs got benched. Implicit bias goes both ways and will probably never go away until people become more intelligent and rationale. Everybody deals with implicit bias all the time, all ages, genders, ethnicities, and orientations. It's just people being drawn to things that are "like them". This is due to people being controlled by fear and specifically the fear of change. You will need to perservere through implicit bias, point blank.

Right now y'all wanna group up against me, another black man, because I have a different opinion. Y'all need that support, that pat on the back, I don't need shyt because I have a brain.
Don't worry about the Coli. You made good points at times. These motherfukkers would ignore a 1000 bill on the ground if an actual intelligent brother told them there was a prize if they tied their shoes. They focus on group think and validation only, pretending they're intelligent because they're popular. They can write term papers disagreeing with other brothers, but cry about knowledge being given back.

I didn't agree with a lot of your earlier posts, but I do this one. Coli dudes are on some extreme bias shyt. It's not fun when you're talking about real world issues and implications. The cac media can never be taken down, because EVERYONE knows what each representation of Blacks are going to say at any given time: the risk adverse "safe" brother is always going to play the middle for his job, the "militants" dude will ignore all facts and focus primarily on race and identity politics in his bubble, and the c00n who will berate his own people. These are our media representations, because they fully represent our collective mindset.

I tried to find different, and thought it was Coli, but same shyt, different Blacks. And no, it's likely they don't know about the lapel cam officer, I'd admit I didn't either, but still act like they did. Coli dudes know everything, at an instant, all the times, and anyone else is a cac or c00n (sadly, they exist here too, cac trolls I mean-a lot of people watch the Coli, and cac's have a right to contribute if open-minded). We're pretty much going to fail anyway, because of the bias, I just didn't think it'd be so boring.
 
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Don't worry about the Coli. You made good points at times. These motherfukkers would ignore a 1000 bill on the ground if an actual intelligent brother told them there was a prize if they tied their shoes. They focus on group think and validation only, pretending they're intelligent because they're popular. They can write term papers disagreeing with other brothers, but cry about knowledge being given back.

I didn't agree with a lot of your earlier posts, but I do this one. Coli dudes are on some extreme bias shyt. It's not fun when you're talking about real world issues and implications. The cac media can never be taken down, because EVERYONE knows what each representation of Blacks are going to say at any given time: the risk adverse "safe" brother is always going to play the middle for his job, the "militants" dude will ignore all facts and focus primarily on race and identity politics in his bubble, and the c00n who will berate his own people. These are our media representations, because they fully represent our collective mindset.

I tried to find different, and thought it was Coli, but same shyt, different Blacks. And no, it's likely they don't know about the lapel cam officer, I'd admit I didn't either, but still act like they did. Coli dudes know everything, at an instant, all the times, and anyone else is a cac or c00n (sadly, they exist here too, cac trolls I mean-a lot of people watch the Coli, and cac's have a right to contribute if open-minded). We're pretty much going to fail anyway, because of the bias, I just didn't think it'd be so boring.
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Don't worry about the Coli. You made good points at times. These motherfukkers would ignore a 1000 bill on the ground if an actual intelligent brother told them there was a prize if they tied their shoes. They focus on group think and validation only, pretending they're intelligent because they're popular. They can write term papers disagreeing with other brothers, but cry about knowledge being given back.

I didn't agree with a lot of your earlier posts, but I do this one. Coli dudes are on some extreme bias shyt. It's not fun when you're talking about real world issues and implications. The cac media can never be taken down, because EVERYONE knows what each representation of Blacks are going to say at any given time: the risk adverse "safe" brother is always going to play the middle for his job, the "militants" dude will ignore all facts and focus primarily on race and identity politics in his bubble, and the c00n who will berate his own people. These are our media representations, because they fully represent our collective mindset.

I tried to find different, and thought it was Coli, but same shyt, different Blacks. And no, it's likely they don't know about the lapel cam officer, I'd admit I didn't either, but still act like they did. Coli dudes know everything, at an instant, all the times, and anyone else is a cac or c00n (sadly, they exist here too, cac trolls I mean-a lot of people watch the Coli, and cac's have a right to contribute if open-minded). We're pretty much going to fail anyway, because of the bias, I just didn't think it'd be so boring.

Honestly @Swamp Thing 's post isn't persuasive. He basically says that implicit bias exists everywhere, but that doesn't mean it is expressed equilateral across and among people. The NFL's brain trust is largely white so it is white bias which has the most pervasive effect on players and coaches. Moving on, @Swamp-Thing didn't disprove the study. He just identified some variables and brought up the question of whether they would affect for the discrimination effect, which I think is unlikely because of how many variables were already controlled for by the study's economist author.
 
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