Can you nikkas please use the spoiler button if you're gonna give away shyt that happens?
Black Mirror: Bandersnatch (Official Thread)
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Norrin Radd
To me, my board!
oh baby!!
For real for real.
DaRealness
I think very deeply
I just started watching this recently. Dope viewing. I have like three episodes to go.
The first episode was
. No fukkING WAY would I do that shyt for someone that's not even my kid. fukk the princess and what everyone else thinks. 
Nosedive is the funniest episode out of all of them. That airport scene had me
If I had to choose a favourite episode it would probably be Hated In The Nation. That was just fiyah and a dope concept. That 50 Cent type troll rapper.
Shut up and Dance was dope. I kind of had a feeling that's how it would end.
Playtest was dope.
San Junepiro was well done. It wasn't as bleak as other episodes but they really recreated the 80s better than most modern shows/movies I've seen. It really felt like the 80s and not a movie pretending to be the 80s.
As for Season 4, Hang the DJ and Black Museum was good. The others ehhh.....
The first episode was
. No fukkING WAY would I do that shyt for someone that's not even my kid. fukk the princess and what everyone else thinks. Nosedive is the funniest episode out of all of them. That airport scene had me
If I had to choose a favourite episode it would probably be Hated In The Nation. That was just fiyah and a dope concept. That 50 Cent type troll rapper.
Shut up and Dance was dope. I kind of had a feeling that's how it would end.
Playtest was dope.
San Junepiro was well done. It wasn't as bleak as other episodes but they really recreated the 80s better than most modern shows/movies I've seen. It really felt like the 80s and not a movie pretending to be the 80s.
As for Season 4, Hang the DJ and Black Museum was good. The others ehhh.....
If I had to choose a favourite episode it would probably be Hated In The Nation. That was just fiyah and a dope concept. That 50 Cent type troll rapper.
Robot bees could be deployed if natural population continues to collapse
Fred.
DaRealness
I think very deeply
This show does a good job portraying how technology can fukk up mankind.
Recca Gatsby
LWO
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
I need to get my script in Charlie Brooker's hands before he ends this. We need a season 5 and 6, and then we good.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
So I watched the first episode (where the terrorist wanted the prime minister to fukk a pig on live TV in exchange for the princess) and while it was entertaining and thought provoking, I had some major issues with the writing so I want to get a flavor for if those issues persist or if it gets better.
First issue is that the national security team didn't seem believable with the actions they were taken. The ploy to use an actor to fake it had minimal upside and tremendous downside. The only upside was the PM wouldn't actually have to fukk a pig. The public would still have to think he fukked a pig, however. Maybe you could let his wife in on it too, but only a very small number of people could know you keep the secret safe. The downside was huge: the loss of life to the princess simply because of your treachery. Many in the public may have been ok with not complying with terrorist leading to her death, but for her to die because you failed to trick a technically savvy terrorist wouldn't go over as well. My next issue with that security team was them not surrounding the building where they thought the terrorist was and allowing a reporter to just sneak in. That was way too sloppy for such a high profile operation. Her running was dumb too, and her surviving the shots when she did run was lame. Finally, my biggest issue is with the lack of contingency planning. As soon as they got the video they should've been devising a plan for if they were to comply and one for if they chose not to comply. So when 4pm came, if they weren't complying, they'd get on air with a speech explaining that they will not negotiate with terrorist because today they may demand a lewd act tomorrow they may demand something worse, and this is something the U.K. cannot tolerate, yadda yadda yadda. Now it's possible that this plan was done offscreen and never mentioned cuz they didn't use it, but I doubt it cuz they didn't have a narrative ready for the comply option. All they did was read a short message saying keeping the video was illegal. Gotta believe a real strategy team would've read a carefully manicured statement before the act in order to sway the public. Such a statement might convey that the PM is complying in hopes that this embarrassment for himself and the government may save the beloved princess's life. And while he is choosing to comply, there is no requirement that UK citizens actually watch the broadcast. So he'd play to their civic pride and the fact that most people despise terrorism and ask them to turn off their televisions, not to tweet about it and not give this terrorist any of the attention it deserves. Obviously, everyone wouldn't oblige, but many would and it would've created a realistic and interesting dialogue amongst those public gatherings at the hospital and the bar.
My final issue is with the release of her 30 minutes prior and no one noticing with all the cameras in that city. Sure, they general public may have been glued to their television sets (tho I don't know if that was necessarily be the case a full 30 minutes prior), but with such a big active kidnapping, you'd think they'd have "all hands on deck" monitoring those cameras. Wherever she first comes up on camera (if she was released after the act as they thought she'd be) is where they send the police to start looking for the perp. Her being out in the open for a full 30 minutes seems unreal.
Sorry for the long winded post, but before I start to go through 4 seasons of this, I wanna determine if the writing tightens up or not.
First issue is that the national security team didn't seem believable with the actions they were taken. The ploy to use an actor to fake it had minimal upside and tremendous downside. The only upside was the PM wouldn't actually have to fukk a pig. The public would still have to think he fukked a pig, however. Maybe you could let his wife in on it too, but only a very small number of people could know you keep the secret safe. The downside was huge: the loss of life to the princess simply because of your treachery. Many in the public may have been ok with not complying with terrorist leading to her death, but for her to die because you failed to trick a technically savvy terrorist wouldn't go over as well. My next issue with that security team was them not surrounding the building where they thought the terrorist was and allowing a reporter to just sneak in. That was way too sloppy for such a high profile operation. Her running was dumb too, and her surviving the shots when she did run was lame. Finally, my biggest issue is with the lack of contingency planning. As soon as they got the video they should've been devising a plan for if they were to comply and one for if they chose not to comply. So when 4pm came, if they weren't complying, they'd get on air with a speech explaining that they will not negotiate with terrorist because today they may demand a lewd act tomorrow they may demand something worse, and this is something the U.K. cannot tolerate, yadda yadda yadda. Now it's possible that this plan was done offscreen and never mentioned cuz they didn't use it, but I doubt it cuz they didn't have a narrative ready for the comply option. All they did was read a short message saying keeping the video was illegal. Gotta believe a real strategy team would've read a carefully manicured statement before the act in order to sway the public. Such a statement might convey that the PM is complying in hopes that this embarrassment for himself and the government may save the beloved princess's life. And while he is choosing to comply, there is no requirement that UK citizens actually watch the broadcast. So he'd play to their civic pride and the fact that most people despise terrorism and ask them to turn off their televisions, not to tweet about it and not give this terrorist any of the attention it deserves. Obviously, everyone wouldn't oblige, but many would and it would've created a realistic and interesting dialogue amongst those public gatherings at the hospital and the bar.
My final issue is with the release of her 30 minutes prior and no one noticing with all the cameras in that city. Sure, they general public may have been glued to their television sets (tho I don't know if that was necessarily be the case a full 30 minutes prior), but with such a big active kidnapping, you'd think they'd have "all hands on deck" monitoring those cameras. Wherever she first comes up on camera (if she was released after the act as they thought she'd be) is where they send the police to start looking for the perp. Her being out in the open for a full 30 minutes seems unreal.
Sorry for the long winded post, but before I start to go through 4 seasons of this, I wanna determine if the writing tightens up or not.
KalKal
Superstar
I think that that was the point.
Anyway, I always tell people to watch the first season in reverse order. The first episode turned me off so much that I didn't watch another episode for almost a year. Then I binged watched all of the remaining episodes that were out that the time.
I went to a Q and A in the summer in London with Charlie Brooker and his other producer for Esquire. Few things he mentioned. The timeline/the 'Black Mirror' universe was only put in this season. He said any previous references were coincidence and mostly to save budget. They reused sets and scenes (tickers etc) to save money, and the internet latched onto it and assumed it was part of a shared universe. In response to this, he decided to say fukk it and pretend this was always intentional, hence Black Museum. He also said he would consider an episode set in the past (like medieval), a sequel to White Bear, and interestingly a question came from the audience about an episode being set away from western culture. He was really intrigued by the idea, so who know we'll get a foreign language episode 
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
Yea, that was the explanation they gave, but I'm saying that makes no sense. Streets may've been empty cuz people were glued to their televisions, but the folks whose job it was to monitor the cameras around the city would've been extra vigilant that entire day. Within minutes of the beloved princess popping up on camera, they would've spotted her. Hard to believe they'd miss her for a whole half hour before he went through with the act.
I just finished Man Against Fire, which was my last episode in the whole series. Definitely a top five episode, but it never gets talked about.
My top five, after making it through all the episodes, is:
1. Black Museum
2. White Bear
3. Man Against Fire
4. Playtest
5. San Junipero
Maybe I'm just saying this because I'm not a TV watcher like that, but Black Mirror might be the GOAT.
Also, I'm finna look up all the fan theories and shyt, since I don't have to worry about spoilers anymore.
1. Black Museum
2. White Bear
3. Man Against Fire
4. Playtest
5. San Junipero
Maybe I'm just saying this because I'm not a TV watcher like that, but Black Mirror might be the GOAT.
Also, I'm finna look up all the fan theories and shyt, since I don't have to worry about spoilers anymore.