Black men, vulnerability and depression.

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For those that have "given up" on the black community...you fukked up trying to juggle the entire black communities problems. That defeat comes along with something that you just can't do...you can't 'fix' black people. What you can do is fortify yourself, become a formidable individual and then hip the next man to your formula...then tell him to hip somebody else, then hip somebody else...I understand the urge to want to do something to fix your people but while you sitting there trying to solve that 5,000 piece puzzle you could have been working on you...you could have built something that could offer a job to black man. Always keep what you can do/how you can give back in mind but get yours. That isn't your shoulder to burned...being black should not be a burden. I think if we kinda get out of that mentality it would ease some of the pressure so smarter decisions can be made, pathways to freedom can be discovered, but it's gonna be hard to find those pathways with the weight of the entire black diaspora on your shoulders.

Give up on the 'burden' of blackness, not black people, definitely not yourself.
That word is only a color, it ain't facts no more :ohhh:
 

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That word is only a color, it ain't facts no more :ohhh:

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to me most of the pain lies because nobody really cares, it can't be healthy to constantly have to struggle keeping depressive thoughts out of your head

if the majority of society showed more empathy shyt wouldn't be so bad, it's like you against the world being a black man, but that's why I keep pushing
Facts

Things would be so much better
 

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I struggle with the assumptions people make about me. Not insecurity, its just annoying when people act surprised by my lifestyle and taste.
Assuming you are a young black male, young black males are the single most stereotyped group on planet earth.

You venture outside of the box you'll get labeled as weird, not black enough or even "gay". Shyt can be tough.
 

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I struggle with the assumptions people make about me. Not insecurity, its just annoying when people act surprised by my lifestyle and taste.

That's still a form of insecurity but you define it however you wish...point is what assumptions people make about you is really none of your business. Like really...that's their subjective experience, not to say let somebody down talk you or slander you but true security is when your lifestyle and taste is no longer up for negotiation or debate with ANYBODY external to your experience.

Some people are imprisoned by what they think people think about them...like way past being annoyed. It's people that won't even come out of their house because of prying eyes. That's sad...it's people that have missed out on their life's joy based on what they ASSUME other people are assuming.

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to me most of the pain lies because nobody really cares, it can't be healthy to constantly have to struggle keeping depressive thoughts out of your head

if the majority of society showed more empathy shyt wouldn't be so bad, it's like you against the world being a black man, but that's why I keep pushing

Real shyt...and while you keep pushing try to give what you wish to receive, especially to the young black men. I believe empathy comes natural to human beings, it's all this other shyt that's in the way of true human interaction.
 

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I never said stopping or give up. I just want a better understanding between our people is all. Trust I'll never quit and I'm a firm believer in protecting black woman and children. But I also realise that we need healthy black men to be the leaders we're supposed to be. How can the head lead when it is sick?

The head can lead when it's sick but the journey will be riddled with dysfunction and confusion. There are plenty of people in our community who participate in all kinds of terrible behaviors just to ensure their families are fed.

Imagine knowing that the only way you can feed your kid is if you sell poison to someone else's mother. These are the kinds of decisions were forced to make and somehow rationalize and it turns us into monstrosities.​
 

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The head can lead when it's sick but the journey will be riddled with dysfunction and confusion. There are plenty of people in our community who participate in all kinds of terrible behaviors just to ensure their families are fed.

Imagine knowing that the only way you can feed your kid is if you sell poison to someone else's mother. These are the kinds of decisions were forced to make and somehow rationalize and it turns us into monstrosities.​
Very true.
 

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Crying and holding hands ain't gon pay my mom's bills
It ain't gon out me through school
It ain't gon help me get a job/generate income and provide for my family:hubie:

Nah but healing yourself, if that means crying or whatever else can help you leave behind the thing that may slow your progress or influence you to make unwise choices is a good thing.

I got a lil homie that I build with, I threw him my car keys and said let's go. He's like go where?

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I spent a lot of my life just "going"...because I grew up thinking strength was about being able to endure pain and heartbreak. Like fukk it...I'm strong, I'm black, I'm a man, I can endure. But you don't get points for degree of difficulty...if we get in the car and the tire is flat fix the fukking thing, get right so that you can have a smooth ride. People say life is short but it's not that gotdamn short, take some time to heal yourself and get a clear mind.
 
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One of the hardest things about being a black man are emotions and vulnerabilities. You can't appear weak to anybody other than maybe your mother(even then depending on your mother she might give you the :scust:).

If you show weakness with your boys you'll get clowned or a nikka might try you. If you weak around a female your a weak ass man and not a leader. Black men are in a literal catch 22. We live in a system and country that places centuries of truma on us and we have to deal with it but if we act like nomal human beings with emotions were weak and become food.

Just crazy to me people don't realize the pressure that is placed on black boys from a very young age. The expectation of being the man of the house, protector and provider is given to a lot of us before we're even old enough to understand what being a man is even about. Then most of us grow up with no fathers so we have to figure out how to be a man on our own. With nobody to even listen to us or help guide us through this thing we're up against.

A lot of black men just want understanding and to feel secure just like everbody else. But unfortunately we're not afforded that privilege.

A lot of people simply don't know how to be a man in a society that wasn't meant for us. A lot people have their ideas of what being a man is but the truth is in the black community we don't know.

So let's have a discussion brehs what are some struggle you have as a man?

For me I struggle with anxiety and mild depression. A lot of it stems from just being a kid trying to find his place in harsh environment and looking for acceptance from people I'm just not like. I'm a lot better and doing great for myself because of just being very fortunate in life. I am very lucky to have the opportunities in life and that has made me very happy recently. But I never forget how deep I was last summer in the blackest depression I've ever felt. But I learned a lot from that time. I can honestly say I'm a lot better in life and as a man because of that pain. I really found myself and learned that I have to be me.

So what about y'all?
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The head can lead when it's sick but the journey will be riddled with dysfunction and confusion.​

I done had to drive on a flat tire to make it to a funeral, I mean yea the car was driving...sparks and shyt were flying everywhere, I was sad and scared to death, but at least it was moving.

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