Black Men: Do You Agree “Play The Corporate Game” Or No?

[David_TheMan]

They are speaking non-sense.
You have to be personable and know your shyt.
If you are those things you will get far as you can, racism that holds you back doesn't care how you look, they don't fukk with you because you are black period.
So a lot of what he was saying to me is just c00n babble.

Respect yourself, be professional in actions, develop a solid reputation for good work, team building, and networking and thats the game.

 

[Strapped]

They are speaking non-sense.
You have to be personable and know your shyt.
If you are those things you will get far as you can, racism that holds you back doesn't care how you look, they don't fukk with you because you are black period.
So a lot of what he was saying to me is just c00n babble.

Respect yourself, be professional in actions, develop a solid reputation for good work, team building, and networking and thats the game.

My sentiments

 

[SATAN]

1 star for posting c00n-babble

 

[Kenyan West]

I've been in the corporate game for damn near ten years. I threw in the towel last year, in November. I'll never go back, unless absolutely necessary. Unless you're a flamboyant non threatening fekkit or a bougie nikka, it's going to fukk with your soul eventually. Black men, like me anyway, need autonomy and control, especially when some obese cac geek starts talking slick cuz he knows he's backed by HR. I'm from North Philly, so.... yeah. My discontent always shows and I get rebellious when people try me.

I believe Dame Dash's analogy of a well, pampered dog vs a feral wolf who eats what he kills explains my personality definitely. Corporate requires that you put on a leash. The uncertainty of the wild is better for me.

The corporate game requires a delicate balance. To win or at least maintain, you have to play the game to some extent. Going to work and just "doing your job" makes you a target. That's for white men. Small talk. Happy hours. Laughing at shyt that aint funny. Taking the bass out your voice. You have to go above and beyond. Anything that's unclear or vague about a role, you have to decipher yourself. No cac wants to assist a nikka who's lagging behind.

You have to avoid the black stereotypes, (being late, coming across as combative, not being ghetto, not excelling) while not making mistakes simultaneously for the entire duration of the job. Mistakes, things that any fukkin human being does, will kill black people no matter the severity. I got threw under the bus by white managers for making simple errors that could be corrected in literally seconds. For example, a error on a report was screenshotted and forwarded to literally a half a dozen managers as a way to reprimand me. I knew a white dude who fukked up and cost us a long term high paying company client. Slap on a wrist.

They are always building a case to get you out the paint. Death by a thousand cuts. What real man wants to deal with that shyt, especially as an introvert.

Cacs don't forget or forgive shyt when it comes to black people, so this inevitably makes the environment hostile and demoralizing, emasculating, draining.

I've moved up the ranks for a decade, but ultimately it's not for me. I'm destined for much greater -- the entrepreneur path for a black man is freedom-esque, especially if you're successful.

Being a black man, with paper in the bank and zero cacs in control of his income or time is the greatest flex of all time to me. Fukk corporate and fukk jobs. I'm done with em.

 

[Kenyan West]

I played the corporate game but recently got clipped. If I can help it, I wouldn't go back. Corporate America is no place for a black man with dignity IMO.

They expect you to be docile and forever grateful and "know your place." You walk around with your head high and your chest out because you're naturally a confident, dignified man... that's a problem.

I had a lot of haters. Unfortunately from black people under me too. But it was the white boys I guess jealous of my swag that ultimately dug up some dirt on me.

I've been building my own thing the last couple months. It hasn't been easy but the rewards will make it worth it.

My advice to any black man currently in Corporate America: don't quit, but mind your own business. In other words, keep getting those checks as long as they're cuttin em but you should always be making your own moves outside of work to eventually replace that income. If you can, bring that experience back to the people and help us build our own shyt.

FACTS.

Sorry for what happened to you breh, but always know the best is yet to come. Black people are resourceful as f -- you'll figure out what works for you.

 

[TallMan_J]

Corporate culture is conformity. You are naive if you think white people don't have to conform as well. Everyone has to. Some people, however, can conform a bit easier than others.

The problem is black people undervalue many important skills that would otherwise allow them to thrive in corporate environments. Skills like small talk. Small talk will take you farther than your own technical skills. It’s probably the most important skill to have.

If you are having problems in that regard, get this book.



I’m definitely for playing the corporate game. The long run is gaining the professional skills to be able to go off and do your own thing successfully when the time comes.

Just downloaded the Kindle version, and am about to dive in. This is what I like to come on this forum for. As an introvert that gets annoyed and drained when forced to socialize with other people, this should be a good read. Good looking, breh.

 

[DEAD7]

Had a breh leave my current project because he couldnt play the game no more

 

[invalid]

Breh this is dead ass one of the big skills I need to refine - salute.

Just downloaded the Kindle version, and am about to dive in. This is what I like to come on this forum for. As an introvert that gets annoyed and drained while forced to socialize with people, this should be a good read. Good looking, breh.

Free PDF:

http://msport04.free.fr/Small Talk.pdf

Check out this podcast episode on the book:

‎The Art of Manliness: #406: Why You Need to Embrace Small Talk on Apple Podcasts

Also check out the Art of Mingling:



And check out this podcast episode on the book:

‎The Art of Manliness: #362: The Art of Mingling on Apple Podcasts

Art of Manliness has other episodes on the subject you should definitely listen to but also check out the podcast the Art of Charm. They have some good advise as well.

https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=212382281

 

[King Khufu]

I have two takes on this.

Here it is:
For our people on a over-all scale office jobs aren't needed.

But however to the brothers and sisters that are working in the corporate world with being in the know then I'm glad they are doing their part to keep going at what tasks they do. It's not easy there is much pressure on us to not be unprofessional even if some of us are over prepared for it.
Despite that, they still work hard at the things they accomplish and hopefully more of us in the future can network with these types of minds to invest into our futures.

Like the way I see it everyone has a position. Some brothers are meant to hit the streets and others are meant to hit the books. And once in a while you run into a dude like me who know how to operate between both worlds because being a ethnicity from a certain background doesn't stop someone from having strong interests in things of higher learning (such as electronics computing and artificial intelligence programming)

So I'd say it be good for the community if there were more willing minds to fulfill these roles because it could change futures when the right group of creative intelligent minds can do the right thing in orchestrated organization where all of us can contribute something to eachother for multiple benefits. It's not going to be easy to break through but the more black based computer and manufacturing companies we can invest original products into the more we can invest back into our communities at a large scale.
(You'd never know, some black kids in the hood making their own brand of smart phone or comes up with a environmental invention that purifies air or some shyt. Black excellence is not meant to be taken lightly when it's potentially this serious only if more of our best were giving the chance to fully shine through.)

Sorry if I'm thinking ahead from a holistic perspective. I know it's not that deep but the more I get my posts read by the public the more things can be worked out eventually for the better or at least heard enough to stand out to one day make a impactful difference even if it is for now only small seeds in the minds of the readers who enjoy what I have to say.

 

[Ohene]

listening

 

[Ohene]

Corporate culture is conformity. You are naive if you think white people don't have to conform as well. Everyone has to. Some people, however, can conform a bit easier than others.

The problem is black people undervalue many important skills that would otherwise allow them to thrive in corporate environments. Skills like small talk. Small talk will take you farther than your own technical skills. It’s probably the most important skill to have.

If you are having problems in that regard, get this book.



I’m definitely for playing the corporate game. The long run is gaining the professional skills to be able to go off and do your own thing successfully when the time comes.

white ppl may conform, but they are by default conforming less because they and their culture permeate through corporate settings. They may conform by shaving their beard, wearing a suit etc...but it gets deeper the darker you are. We by default wont have the same hobbies they do. We wont talk the same way they do. We simply wont be able to relate to them. That to me is what makes the conformity difficult, just not being able to relate.

I dont have a cottage
I have not yet picked up golf
I dont watch hockey anymore
etc. etc.

 

[boriquaking]

All depends on what you want to do and the position you’re in financially.

someone with their bread straight can say fukk that a walk away.

 

[Serious]

I've been in the corporate game for damn near ten years. I threw in the towel last year, in November. I'll never go back, unless absolutely necessary. Unless you're a flamboyant non threatening fekkit or a bougie nikka, it's going to fukk with your soul eventually. Black men, like me anyway, need autonomy and control, especially when some obese cac geek starts talking slick cuz he knows he's backed by HR. I'm from North Philly, so.... yeah. My discontent always shows and I get rebellious when people try me.

I believe Dame Dash's analogy of a well, pampered dog vs a feral wolf who eats what he kills explains my personality definitely. Corporate requires that you put on a leash. The uncertainty of the wild is better for me.

The corporate game requires a delicate balance. To win or at least maintain, you have to play the game to some extent. Going to work and just "doing your job" makes you a target. That's for white men. Small talk. Happy hours. Laughing at shyt that aint funny. Taking the bass out your voice. You have to go above and beyond. Anything that's unclear or vague about a role, you have to decipher yourself. No cac wants to assist a nikka who's lagging behind.

You have to avoid the black stereotypes, (being late, coming across as combative, not being ghetto, not excelling) while not making mistakes simultaneously for the entire duration of the job. Mistakes, things that any fukkin human being does, will kill black people no matter the severity. I got threw under the bus by white managers for making simple errors that could be corrected in literally seconds. For example, a error on a report was screenshotted and forwarded to literally a half a dozen managers as a way to reprimand me. I knew a white dude who fukked up and cost us a long term high paying company client. Slap on a wrist.

They are always building a case to get you out the paint. Death by a thousand cuts. What real man wants to deal with that shyt, especially as an introvert.

Cacs don't forget or forgive shyt when it comes to black people, so this inevitably makes the environment hostile and demoralizing, emasculating, draining.

I've moved up the ranks for a decade, but ultimately it's not for me. I'm destined for much greater -- the entrepreneur path for a black man is freedom-esque, especially if you're successful.

Being a black man, with paper in the bank and zero cacs in control of his income or time is the greatest flex of all time to me. Fukk corporate and fukk jobs. I'm done with em.

I feel it just make your money, learn shyt and bounce.

 

[Serious]

Had a breh leave my current project because he couldnt play the game no more

I know you werent helping either.

 

[DEAD7]

I know you werent helping either.

I stay putting nikkas on.

he was a lost cause tho...