Black Men are tired (boundaries, Jason Wilson/podcast)

[Still Benefited]

After listening to this video, it's kinda hard to comment on it. Those problems don't really sound geared towards Black men only. Anyway, they seem to be saying certain men are tired of tryna be there for everybody. It sounds like these are Black men who did what they thought was right, got the house, wife, kids, hobbies (such as going to events), but not really feeling no satisfaction, and feel worn out. Those issues may sound petty to somebody out her struggling financially, and can't afford housing, etc.., but when you have the Huxable family or Brady family life, and still feel empty or unfulfilled, to the point you no longer know why you're going to work everyday, then I guess that can be a very dark place. It's just that these brothers happen to be Black.

As far as race, he started of talking about how White boys get it in, and enjoy life with these hobbies. He indicated that gives them an outlet. But in reality, an outlet doesn't necessary have to be a hobby, not the way most people view hobbies. I notice he couldn't name but one of their hobbies right off bat, which was game hunting, which decends from Esau...it figures. A lot of brothers do go on fishing trips, but hunting dear, lion, and bear heads, and hanging them over the fire place, nah, they can have that. We have much better ways of getting it in, if we don't focus so much on what they do. All that other stuff those White boys do, can get you messed up quick. And if you do it with them, you better hope they don't make an accident outta you. The average Black person should be satisfied with a little traveling here and there, a few concerts or a movie here and there, and a amusment park ride once in a while, if they don't get crazy with it. As a matter of fact, I'd cross that last one out. The last time I went to Six Flags here in Atlanta, this chick wore me out walking around that park...and she was only one year younger than me! And these White kids in their late teens, kept waving at us every time we passed them on the skyscraper. But my date was having a ball, as old as we were...lol.


But anyway, as far as the video, all I'll say is once a brother get's past 55, or at least past 60, he'll start seeing a lot of those things that he thought defined manhood, really didn't. He needs to chill a little, before he burns himself out. It's a matter of getting past that stage. Unfortunately, some brothers don't.

Glad you touched on this. Alot of this issues come from the fact there is no self realization for black men in this country. We are just living out the Europeans gameplan/design. So many black men depressed about not having as much as the white man got. Depressed about not having the career that defines you as "succesful" by the European. Youll be alot happier once you realize you are playing a bullshyt monopoly game create for and by the European. Because then you understand the context of how serious you should take it. You can play to win,play to keep playing,play so you can stop playing,or refuse to play. No matter which you choose,at least you know why your playing. Way better then going through the motions,reaching goals,but never being happy. Need to do some self reflectig and ask what you would want in life had you not been programmed/brainwashed from birth. This is why black people need to leave the country isolate and discover that for ourselves

 

[RickyDiBiase]

It goes further, you see posts on here where breh's brag about smashing somebody's wife/BM, brag about finessing nikkas, or sonning them. That mentality has to go. You gotta value the next breh and his property and family. The one up and compeititive for peanuts mentality is self destructive. The throwing another man under the bus for vagina points, money, or no reason and gloating over it has to die too.

That’s not how that works.

Infidelity crosses all cultures and customs

 

[High Art]

I don’t know about this divestor business, but what nuance did her statement lack.

I actually addressed it in part in my response to her:

These groups exist but people will act like they don't exist.

We do have groups that were made to address these issues. We have some on this board even. The mistake made is not in the lack of creation but rather in the lack of gatekeeping and safeguarding of these spaces (and at times the nature/design of them). I also took issue with the idea that all black men do is sit around and tell each other they need support without providing it. Even more, the support provided comes in various forms, the recognition of, which I felt was lacking in her response.

 

[breakfuss]

This is the problem.

These men are talking about issues modern men generally have, and you - a single, 40+ y.o., manosphere/gender warring content consumer, still roommating, internet degree having, former streetwalker/pole dancer - enters a discussion where men are discussing issues amongst other men to thrust your unwarranted opinions on men.

It's funny because most of these guys claim to be with women irl but stay trying to get in the good graces of faceless women on the internet.

Even if they weren't faceless, it'd still be pathetic.



That wasn't the point of the video. Stop listening to dumb broads tell you what to think.

Bruh went the fukk off in this thread lmao. Imma share that first quote with some other brehs though, that shyt .

 

[Paradoxx]

I actually addressed it in part in my response to her:

We do have groups that were made to address these issues. We have some on this board even. The mistake made is not in the lack of creation but rather in the lack of gatekeeping and safeguarding of these spaces (and at times the nature/design of them). I also took issue with the idea that all black men do is sit around and tell each other they need support without providing it. Even more, the support provided comes in various forms, the recognition of, which I felt was lacking in her response.

Then if you dislike her that much and find her statements and other women’s unneeded, why not block them? That goes for the rest of the men are here, it’s a form of gatekeeping. You only get to see the opinion from other male posters?

 

[Tair]

Then if you dislike her that much and find her statements and other women’s unneeded, why not block them? That goes for the rest of the men are here, it’s a form of gatekeeping. You only get to see the opinion from other male posters?

You have to counter false propaganda with the truth.

 

[Paradoxx]

You have to counter false propaganda with the truth.

Okay

 

[Hoodoo Child]

Try to start a thread building up black men and watch the devil step in breh.

"The Devil don't have horns and a red hue, he walks amongst us looking like me and YOU."

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

So do she sell puss or not? I asked her the other day and she said no and got mad

How would he know what I do and don't do? I don’t know him and he doesn't know me. Ya'll literally believe anything that anyone says about anyone?

They have zero proof of anything they say. Literally none and yes they have tried and failed just like everything else they do in life.

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

There's always a clown like this criticizing and calling Black men gay when Black men try to find ways to be happy like everyone else does.


Our community is full of men and women like this.

they're usually projecting....

 

[Piff Perkins]

I haven’t watched yet but I gotta say I hate the phrase “I’m tired.” It was beaten into the dirt by women already, I don’t want to hear men saying it.

In terms of male interaction I think we need to connect more to things that traditionally made men…well, men. Building things, fixing things, exploring things, and competing. This once meant working on cars, building tree houses, going camping, and playing sports. It also meant going to the bar to have fun and possibly pursue women. It’s easy to lose friends when you have no physical connection to men around you.

The more time spent stuck in a perpetual adolescent state playing video games and consuming comic tv/film, the less time living in the real world doing shyt.

 

[the bossman]

Some things are a bit too adventurous(like exploring abandon bases/factories) but things like that help you build bonds and help you heal. Men bond(and HEAL) over building, studying, exploring, and discovering things together.

facts. especially further we go into adulthood with increasing responsibilities (wife, kids, elderly parents, etc.). Having and maintaining that brotherhood network is crucial.

Me and my boys no longer live in the same place. we're all spread out across the country. but we try to establish at least two trips a year where we pick a place and all fly to meetup. We always end up having a blast and those moments of dialog to chop it up about different life situations as brehs are much needed

 

[the bossman]

Everytime, every got damn time. Im surprised people dont get tired of arguing

it's like.. breh you will never meet each other in real life. wtf is the point of going back and forth pages on end? just a huge time suck in the end

 

[OfTheCross]

People make their own lives difficult then complain about being tired

 

[Caca-faat]

The speaker says men allow society to define them as providers and protectors. I can agree with that, when men step outside of the norm their sexuality is questioned, it’s not like that for women. And if he’s not gay he’s a lame, that stamps on your creativity and expression from very young. Sometimes with men it seems there is a fine line with societal guidance and societal oppression.



It is also mentioned that men should set boundaries for themselves to maintain their mental health. I agree but men are responsible for so many things and are sometimes beholden to so many people it’s sometimes hard not to over stretch yourself for those you see yourself as guardians over children, gf, wife, sibling etc. And as a protector/guardian it is often difficult to maintain those boundaries when your dominion is in need.

But some women are annoying, greedy selfish creatures, ngl I wouldn’t have agreed unless I saw it for myself. They group together on code as someone else said upthread whereas men are like “that’s not my business” I’ve seen it amongst black men if all ages.

Many black men don’t have a circle of accountability that keeps them on task, help maintain their mental, health and physical health, financial well-being etc. You may have one good homie, but he too is flawed and if you’re both flawed in the same area then you have no one.

Create space for leadership in your life and be accepting to the council of the elders, they have seen a world you have never known.
I am also happy that they advocated therapy at the end because if you can’t talk to ppl in your life who can you talk to.

The older dude has a very calming demeanour which makes listening to his message very easy.

This was very insightful OP. Thank you for posting.