Black Male privilege is as real as White Privilege

[kayslay]

nah, just too stupid. y'all think the dude wearing all his wealth with a leased car has all the money. meanwhile the "lame and corny' dude dressed down in target clothes in a toyota camry is really holding the money

you think BW as a collective are stupid for investing in BM?
their are plenty of women who go for the guy at target, trust.
but lets be real, how many of him actually exist compared to the other guy?

 

[kevm3]

This question shows that you don't understand what you're talking about. Please go search sexism in the Black Power and Civil Rights Movements and get back to me.



How does your response make any sense, unless you are asking Black women to simply accept the fact that many Black men are going to be pieces of shyt? Especially since you will not allow for the idea that some Black women will be as well, and instead use the lowest performing Black women to point to "what is wrong" with all of us?

This is what I'm saying. We are just supposed to ignore the ain't shyt Black men and focus on the good ones, yet the majority of the male posters in here including yourself have made an entire posting history or two off of just focusing on the ain't shyt Black women.

My response makes plenty of sense. Black men DON'T HAVE economic or systematic power, so what black patriarchy are black feminists fighting in the black community? Black feminists are teaming up with white feminists, which will inevitably lead to creating laws that will largely affect minority men. The 'street harassment' video conveniently left out white men. Don't you think that was for a reason?

 

[GoPro]

Yeah I saw the "dance puppets" quip at the end. He's trolling the whole forum but only a few people understand that.

People don't even care when they're being trolled anymore. The urge to argue this same shyt everyday is too potent.



And so is my urge to read it .

 

[marcuz]

no the courts keep away abusive men, not those that take care of their children.
if we have a patriarchy wouldnt all men be held to those standards not the few with PhDs?
are you saying their arent that many quality men to choose from?

and the woman can just claim abuse with out a drop of evidence

and no, even in patriarchal communities, the women still have to use a drop of common sense with the guys they choose to let cum inside them. only difference is the men have networks and benefits they can cut you out of is you choose to deviate from the norm. black men on the other hand, there's no sanctions or penalties for y'all choosing to become single mothers

 

[kevm3]

ik this. im just being honest. what about the black women who were too busy studying to date in school?
or didnt go to traditional school at all?
lets not even get into the fact that BW outnumber BM 4:1 in college.

If you can't find any decent men of your race in your immediate area, feel free to date outside your race.

 

[PartyHeart]

My response makes plenty of sense. Black men DON'T HAVE economic or systematic power,

No, it really doesn't.

Lets make this simpler. Do white trailer trash have any power? Do they benefit from white supremacy or no?

 

[kayslay]

My response makes plenty of sense. Black men DON'T HAVE economic or systematic power, so what black patriarchy are black feminists fighting in the black community? Black feminists are teaming up with white feminists, which will inevitably lead to creating laws that will largely affect minority men. The 'street harassment' video conveniently left out white men. Don't you think that was for a reason?

so is this about street harassment or patriarchy in the black community?
you will be fine it you leave white women alone.
oh, i forgot you guys cant live withut your pawgs.

 

[kayslay]

and the woman can just claim abuse with out a drop of evidence

and no, even in patriarchal communities, the women still have to use a drop of common sense with the guys they choose to let cum inside them. only difference is the men have networks and benefits they can cut you out of is you choose to deviate from the norm. black men on the other hand, there's no sanctions or penalties for y'all choosing to become single mothers

yall choosing , once again absolving men of their roles as fathers.
you all will never lead because you arent leaders, its simple mathematics.
blind leading the blind.
how the hell are these women supposed to let the men lead if the abandoned them?

 

[kevm3]

so is this about street harassment or patriarchy in the black community?
you will be fine it you leave white women alone.
oh, i forgot you guys cant live withut your pawgs.

I don't know who 'you guys' is referring to because I don't mess with white women.No offense to them, but it's just not my preference.
Secondly, there is no patriarchy in the black community. The underlying goal of feminism is to 'overthrow the patriarchy.' Therefore, black feminists want to 'overthrow the patriarchy' in the black community... but logically, how can you overthrow that which does not exist?

 

[kayslay]

If you can't find any decent men of your race in your immediate area, feel free to date outside your race.

i have several decent men in my life.
thank god
but what about the women who dont?

 

[kayslay]

and the woman can just claim abuse with out a drop of evidence

and no, even in patriarchal communities, the women still have to use a drop of common sense with the guys they choose to let cum inside them. only difference is the men have networks and benefits they can cut you out of is you choose to deviate from the norm. black men on the other hand, there's no sanctions or penalties for y'all choosing to become single mothers

and you really think those women are lying about being abused?
i bet if it wasnt video evidence you wouldve said Janay Rice was a lying whore mad because he was gonna leave her for a pawg right?

 

[marcuz]

Ask for stats then don't read them brehs. Ok, but then why bother trying to debate?

As for abusive relationships, the time at which women are most likely to be murdered by an abuser is right when they try to leave and right after they leave. It's clear you have no understanding of the data behind abuse. Most women can't just get out of abusive relationships.

You also failed to address the main point about abuse. It is a statistical reality that Black men abuse Black women more than White men abuse White women. You can't write that off to white supremacy, and you can't try and compare it to Black men being targeted by police as if that's unique to them, because Black women also get targeted by police more than White women, as I already stated. That is primarily Black men's fault, plain and simple.

you made the police profiling comparison to domestic abuse, not me. are you saying black women are more targeted in society because they get in abusive relationships with black men? or are black men purposely targeting black women to beat on them? i mean, what's to address? who is cosigning domestic violence?

and yeah, i wanted a link to the stats, not a 90 page pdf. also, wheres the report for black men.

 

[PartyHeart]

I don't know who 'you guys' is referring to because I don't mess with white women.No offense to them, but it's just not my preference.
Secondly, there is no patriarchy in the black community. The underlying goal of feminism is to 'overthrow the patriarchy.' Therefore, black feminists want to 'overthrow the patriarchy' in the black community... but logically, how can you overthrow that which does not exist?

You and several men in this thread and in most others concerning relationships say unflinchingly and unabashedly that women should submit to men. That men should, by virtue of just being born men, be allowed to lord over women. That men, just by virtue of being born men, are naturally more logical and better equipped to lead. Let's not even talk about how similar that is to racism. Lets just think about how can you live in a society where that thought process exists unchallenged and claim that it is not patriarchal?

Make no mistake, if Black men weren't abandoning their families this is exactly what would be happening, right or wrong (wrong, imo). The Black family in America has never really been stable long enough for the vast majority of common Black women to un-romanticize patriarchy. So the majority of Black women are still themselves quite patriarchal in thinking, despite having the absolute least to gain from it in comparison to all other women.

For all the complaining you all do about Black feminism, we are few and far in between in the Black community. As of now, our numbers are only growing because of the pure unadulterated vitriol common Black women started noticing coming from Black men on social media/in entertainment and then reinforced in their everyday lives.

 

[marcuz]

and you really think those women are lying about being abused?

i know first hand women will lie to the cops about being abused, are you saying they wouldnt?

 

[kayslay]

I don't know who 'you guys' is referring to because I don't mess with white women.No offense to them, but it's just not my preference.
Secondly, there is no patriarchy in the black community. The underlying goal of feminism is to 'overthrow the patriarchy.' Therefore, black feminists want to 'overthrow the patriarchy' in the black community... but logically, how can you overthrow that which does not exist?

ik thats what i mean, we dont have once so what exactly are we talking about?
if we dont have a patriachy how is black feminism a threat to you?
has it ever accured to any of you that they are playing agent provocateurs to help over throw white patriarchy aka white supremacy?