Black Male privilege is as real as White Privilege

[marcuz]

how man of these equipped men are looking to build a family? and most important a black family?
how many black men have those credentials?
when black women follow your logic we are gold digging hoes who don't deserve a successful black man, because where were we when he was broke lonely and on the come up?
we have and continue to raise the bar, but alot of BM cant meet these requirements due to racism amongst other things.
fukkboys get p*ssy from equally damaged fukkgirls.

black women don't even know to gold dig, but whats worst, being labeled a gold digger or being a single mother? use common sense.

and black women seem to only want to raise bar with every b*stard child they've had. bout time y'all get to the 5th or 6th kid, your standards become immaculate

 

[marcuz]

im confused.
no one, no woman or man should be able to keep you from your child if you want to be in their life. Fathers rights is a thing.
it takes one man to wear a condom, to sleep with quality women to prevent it all.
you cant call for patriachy and not demand that men lead. its really that simple.

the courts can most certainly keep a father away from his children.

and good men with something to lose do wear condoms and choose selectively. or do you want to pretend y'all getting knocked up and "abandoned" by nikkas with phds? `

 

[kevm3]

how man of these equipped men are looking to build a family? and most important a black family?
how many black men have those credentials?
when black women follow your logic we are gold digging hoes who don't deserve a successful black man, because where were we when he was broke lonely and on the come up?
we have and continue to raise the bar, but alot of BM cant meet these requirements due to racism amongst other things.
fukkboys get p*ssy from equally damaged fukkgirls.

There's a huge difference between dating someone that you took the time to assess, and you found that they have decent morals, may not have a high paying job YET, but are in college and working towards a lucrative career and this guy can actually detail to you his life plans. That's the guy you stick with. Sticking with some guy who is constantly in the streets, isn't thinking about tomorrow, already has 2 or 3 kids... that won't get you anywhere.

 

[The Real]

and black women aren't raped by police on the regular either

So we're to believe borderline conspiratorial things about Black men's treatment, but common knowledge of police practices with Black women are somehow outlandish?

already discussed and debunked this

Nah, you didn't debunk it. It's an unfortunate statistical reality. Being more educated than Black men still hasn't led to Black women having more economic power than Black men.

citation needed, as its been proven BW get loans just as easily as white men

Yes, they get the loans, which was already part of what I said. The point is that the loans are lower in quality than those given to Black men. And that's just banks. Black women are less likely to get venture capital and private investor funding than Black men.

and quiet as it kept, some women gravitate towards those type of dysfunctional, abusive relationships.

Sure, and some Black men gravitate towards criminal behavior. Does that mean Black men deserve to be targeted by police at increased rates? The fact is, Black men are beating Black women at higher rates than other races. That is an internal problem that needs to be dealt with, and it's largely because many men have a negative view of women as inferior, disposable, thots, etc. Women gravitating towards it isn't responsible for those attitudes existing.

A lot of the stats you're looking for can be found here: http://ncbcp.org/news/releases/BWR.Final_Black_Women_in_the_US_2014Report.pdf

 

[kayslay]

black women don't even know to gold dig, but whats worst, being labeled a gold digger or being a single mother? use common sense.

and black women seem to only want to raise bar with every b*stard child they've had. bout time y'all get to the 5th or 6th kid, your standards become immaculate

its not in our nature. we are to kind-hearted and too believing in men that do not love or value us.
im just quoting the so called well to do black men.
yeah because every black woman with standards is a single mom.
you all make countless threads about out of shape and/or "ugly" or "average" black women with the same standards.
but oh i forgot black women dont deserve to have standards, my bad.

 

[kevm3]

How do black men not 'love and value' black women when the majority of black women are married to black men?

 

[PartyHeart]

lol how did black men 'adopt' the white man's patriarchy? Jim Crow was still in effect in the 1960s, so please show me where black males got this surge of power to choose to adopt anything.

This question shows that you don't understand what you're talking about. Please go search sexism in the Black Power and Civil Rights Movements and get back to me.

This ISN'T any real excuse for black men killing each other, engaging in that gang-banging nonsense or selling drugs in our community. I can hold black males responsible. Now hold black females responsible.

Black men SHOULD take care of their kids, but if women reward men who have low probability of taking care of their kids, there is nothing you can do about it.

How does your response make any sense, unless you are asking Black women to simply accept the fact that many Black men are going to be pieces of shyt? Especially since you will not allow for the idea that some Black women will be as well, and instead use the lowest performing Black women to point to "what is wrong" with all of us?

This is what I'm saying. We are just supposed to ignore the ain't shyt Black men and focus on the good ones, yet the majority of the male posters in here including yourself have made an entire posting history or two off of just focusing on the ain't shyt Black women.

 

[marcuz]

Nah, you didn't debunk it. It's an unfortunate statistical reality. Being more educated than Black men still hasn't led to Black women having more economic power than Black men.

those stats are like unemployment stats, they exclude all those who are no longer looking for work. they dont include homeless, those in jails, or dudes that have just give up. like i asked earlier, when in the last time any of you have seen a group of homeless black women?

Yes, they get the loans, which was already part of what I said. The point is that the loans are lower in quality than those given to Black men. And that's just banks. Black women are less likely to get venture capital and private investor funding than Black men.

citation needed

Sure, and some Black men gravitate towards criminal behavior. Does that mean Black men deserve to be targeted by police at increased rates? The fact is, Black men are beating Black women at higher rates than other races. That is an internal problem that needs to be dealt with, and it's largely because many men have a negative view of women as inferior, disposable, thots, etc.

false equivalency. women can get out of abusive relationships. black men cant get out of their skin to avoid police profiling.

A lot of the stats you're looking for can be found here: http://ncbcp.org/news/releases/BWR.Final_Black_Women_in_the_US_2014Report.pdf

90 pages? nah, not tonight

edit: and where's the "Black Men in the US 2014" Report

 

[PartyHeart]

Like I said, y'all either ignore or twist statistics and reality whenever it doesn't fit the big bad Black woman narrative (which again, is similar to white racists. Your white daddy has taught you so well).

 

[kayslay]

There's a huge difference between dating someone that you took the time to assess, and you found that they have decent morals, may not have a high paying job YET, but are in college and working towards a lucrative career and this guy can actually detail to you his life plans. That's the guy you stick with. Sticking with some guy who is constantly in the streets, isn't thinking about tomorrow, already has 2 or 3 kids... that won't get you anywhere.

ik this. im just being honest. what about the black women who were too busy studying to date in school?
or didnt go to traditional school at all?
lets not even get into the fact that BW outnumber BM 4:1 in college.

 

[marcuz]

its not in our nature. we are to kind-hearted and too believing in men that do not love or value us.

nah, just too stupid. y'all think the dude wearing all his wealth with a leased car has all the money. meanwhile the "lame and corny' dude dressed down in target clothes in a toyota camry is really holding the money

 

[kayslay]

the courts can most certainly keep a father away from his children.

and good men with something to lose do wear condoms and choose selectively. or do you want to pretend y'all getting knocked up and "abandoned" by nikkas with phds? `

no the courts keep away abusive men, not those that take care of their children.
if we have a patriarchy wouldnt all men be held to those standards not the few with PhDs?
are you saying their arent that many quality men to choose from?

 

[marcuz]

Like I said, y'all either ignore or twist statistics and reality whenever it doesn't fit the big bad Black woman narrative (which again, is similar to white racists. Your white daddy has taught you so well).

your idea of patriarchy in the black community is the church, the best example you've got

 

[The Real]

those stats are like unemployment stats, they exclude all those who are no longer looking for work. they dont include homeless, those in jails, or dudes that have just give up. like i asked earlier, when in the last time any of you have seen a group of homeless black women?



citation needed



false equivalency. women can get out of abusive relationships. black men cant get out of their skin to avoid police profiling.





90 pages? nah, not tonight

edit: and where's the "Black Men in the US 2014" Report

Ask for stats then don't read them brehs. Ok, but then why bother trying to debate?

As for abusive relationships, the time at which women are most likely to be murdered by an abuser is right when they try to leave and right after they leave. It's clear you have no understanding of the data behind abuse. Most women can't just get out of abusive relationships.

You also failed to address the main point about abuse. It is a statistical reality that Black men abuse Black women more than White men abuse White women. You can't write that off to white supremacy, and you can't try and compare it to Black men being targeted by police as if that's unique to them, because Black women also get targeted by police more than White women, as I already stated. That is primarily Black men's fault, plain and simple.

 

[PartyHeart]

So we're to believe borderline conspiratorial things about Black men's treatment, but common knowledge of police practices with Black women are somehow outlandish?




Nah, you didn't debunk it. It's an unfortunate statistical reality. Being more educated than Black men still hasn't led to Black women having more economic power than Black men.



Yes, they get the loans, which was already part of what I said. The point is that the loans are lower in quality than those given to Black men. And that's just banks. Black women are less likely to get venture capital and private investor funding than Black men.



Sure, and some Black men gravitate towards criminal behavior. Does that mean Black men deserve to be targeted by police at increased rates? The fact is, Black men are beating Black women at higher rates than other races. That is an internal problem that needs to be dealt with, and it's largely because many men have a negative view of women as inferior, disposable, thots, etc. Women gravitating towards it isn't responsible for those attitudes existing.

A lot of the stats you're looking for can be found here: http://ncbcp.org/news/releases/BWR.Final_Black_Women_in_the_US_2014Report.pdf

Why do y'all act like posting statistics about how Black women are clearly at more of a disadvantage would do anything for your continuous minimizing of the issues Black women face? We all know how it will end. You will just twist the statistics to say every bad thing that happens to Black women is a result of their choices. Then you will turn around and say that every good thing that Black women accomplish is handed to them by white supremacy as an attack against Black men (because in the end, you believe Black women simply don't matter in the grand scheme of things).

Why pretend like you want real discourse?